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BTAS #7: Ep. 12 + 13 (Patreon)

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2026-06-09 19:00:21
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2026-10
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It's Never Too Late is easily one of my favorite episodes of the series so far. The story, the themes, and the character work were all fantastic. But then there's I've Got Batman in My Basement... and honestly, what were they thinking with that one? 😂 It felt completely out of place compared to everything else we've seen and just didn't fit the tone of the series at all.

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KrakenKing

‘It’s Never Too Late’ is an underrated episode, easily one of the best of the mob stories, though the twist with Mike can be hit or miss for some. Stromwell’s inner-conflict yet inability to change at first, only to finally let his walls down and come clean make for a very good character. Plus, Batman got what revenge he could for Harvey against Thorne by getting him busted. That flying kick was MEAN. I have nothing at all to say about ‘I’ve Got Batman in My Basement’ as an episode, so I’ll just talk about the Penguin and his problematic history with the writing team. When the show was in its early production stages, the crew was eager to make the Penguin one of their forefront villains. After all, many of them had grown up with Adam West’s Batman, which featured Burgess Meredith’s iconic Penguin. They made designs for him based on his Golden Age appearance and everything (this design would go on to be used for Penguin’s redesign in TNBA). However, a wrench was thrown into these plans when the network demanded that the BTAS writers synergize with Batman ‘89 and the more recent Batman Returns, which debuted the same year as BTAS. Joker and Catwoman got through this synergy mostly unaffected, but Penguin was changed from his originally planned short, posh, otherwise normal original design, to one matching that of Danny Devito’s Penguin (webbed, three-fingered hands, obese, balding with long hair, etc.) The BTAS crew, Bruce Timm and Paul Dini included, were NOT fans of the Burton Batman films, and so this effectively soiled any sort of passion or want they had for using the character of Penguin in the show. As you can see, given that this was his debut episode (one of the worst in the series, even), they didn’t even bother giving Penguin an origin or explanation for his deformities. Nearly episode Penguin-focused episode is typically mid at best and it really feels like the writers said “oh yeah, we’ve gotta use him now and again” and just through something together because of their disdain of the network changing their vision of the character; they retaliated by just no longer caring. Penguin has one episode that is actually considered a top tier episode, and other than that, his best appearances are those where he’s a supporting character, not in his own episodes, which is a massive shame. On a side note, Penguin’s voice actor, Paul Williams, wrote the song “Rainbow Connection” of muppets fame, among other songs.

JD Dumas

Aside from his appearance, I rather liked this version of Penguin. His voice, his eloquence, his posh refined mannerisms. I wish more versions were like that. You know, Timm and Dini could've made some lemonade with the situation and come up with some dynamite Penguin episodes, if they could've gotten over their disdain.

JD Dumas

It's Never Too Late is one of my all-time favorite episodes and I love how much you enjoyed it. Unfortunately, Stromwell's evidence only succeeded in dismantling his own criminal empire, but at least it prevented Thorne from taking over the existing drug trade, so crime in Gotham has lessened, at least for now. Also unfortunately, if Thorne has a superpower, it's his inhuman ability to stay out of jail. Another thing I love about this episode is how it displays the kindness and moral optimism that makes Kevin Conroy's Batman the definitive version. Which makes it kind of sad that over the course of the DCAU, Bruce slowly becomes harder and more cynical. Until we finally reach Batman Beyond, where we see him become that cranky old man yelling at kids to stay off his lawn.

KrakenKing

I can agree, I think that Paul Williams was an excellent casting choice and his voice is most certainly not the problem, nor is his posh demeanor. It’s all down to the lack of care in a lot of the writing. I’ll agree though that I’m not a fan at all of the Batman Returns design and that they really fixed his image with TNBA.

KrakenKing

Bruce’s character evolution is honestly one of the best parts of the DCAU. He has his softer moments here and there, but the years just jade him more and more until we quickly lose a lot of distinction between Bruce and Batman.

JD Dumas

And yet they barely did anything with him in that show too.

KrakenKing

Even still, what little we got of him in TNBA was perfect, it’s what he should have been like all through BTAS. He was also in Mystery of the Batwoman.

JD Dumas

Yeah, but he wasn't voiced by Willaims in that one, so it wasn't the same.

KrakenKing

True, but at the same time it marked his final appearance, as well as Thorne’s. With the movie set during the JLU era, it’s pretty nice to see them all still operating in that oh so small and nostalgic world of Gotham City.

Anriku

Love the passion guys!

Anriku

It was such a great episode. I look forward to more like this in the future. Along with seeing the changes in this Bruce/Batman over the course of time.