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lordj

For spiritual tools and swords, some of them are first class, which means it has its own sentient and may even act on its own accord. But not all swords and tools are first class, only powerful cultivators have them

Rachel

I soooooo agree with the Yin Iron. It always feels like a mcguffin and suffers from not having a fully fleshed out lore.

nancy metz

I think (don't know for certain) that others not being able to unsheath the swords is only for first class weapons?

Pratiksha Majee

Ya just do one episode at a time.. Sometimes you can do two in cases where there is a exciting cliffhanger and ding two episodes will help with the flow of the drama

Leaf

No one is born with a golden core, it forms after years of cultivation! Technically Wei Wuxian could reform one but it would take ages (kinda like when you learn ballet as a child, if you were to suddenly lose all the flexibility and muscle you built since childhood, it would be crushing to have to start again) that's also why he can still use other spiritual energy, he would just be very weak in the 'traditional' way. Using resentful energy is like a shortcut to being as powerful (or more) as he was before because he uses already there energy instead of his own. That's also why he is glad (in the novel) that Mo Xyanyu went to train and cultivate with the Jin Clan because although his golden core is small, he still managed to form one. Even peasants, if given time to cultivate, could form golden cores. The reason they don't is because they don't have the luxury of training and meditating like nobles do.

Leaf

Regarding Wei Wuxian's abilities in the show, they had to change stuff from the novels because censure wouldn't allow them to have Wei Wuxian use the energy of the dead without it being a bad thing, so I'm not too sure how they work either lol. Even the Yin Iron as it is here is not really a thing in the novel, which is why the plotline is so weak in the live action because they just made it up, and the Wen Clan doesn't have anything to do with corpses or demonic cultivation, but they had to link demonic cultivation to the 'bad guy' in the live action because the main character can't be the one to invent a practice that's so blasphemous xD the fact that they censured it explains why cultivators hate Wei Wuxian lmao The animated version wasn't tied to the same censorship, so although the story is mostly similar there are some interesting differences.

eliviled

As far as I remember about the spiritual sword bit is that either the ones who owns it can only unsheathe it (with their own golden core, that is) or when the owner dies, anyone is able to unsheathe it.

eliviled

I always thought that when their owners are dead, that's when you can unsheathe the swords. That is, if they are spiritual weapons, of course.

Leaf

Morality is such a weird thing because even with the best intentions of the world you can be a villain.

Leaf

Lan Xichen and Jiang Cheng when Wangxian are in the same room 👀

Leaf

You asking Wangxian to please have a conversation lmao Lan Zhan famously good communicator and Wei Ying never lied in his life so it should go well 😂

lordj

In the novel, it is implied that JC hates Wangji because Wei Ying acts different around Wangji. Almost coquettish. And of course, he sees Wangji like a competitor for his brother's affection

Sakura

High-ranking spiritual weapons can develop their own "spirit" or consciousness. It is really, really uncommon for a sword to seal itself. A sword needs a deep loyalty and deep sentience to do it (normally takes hundreds of years at the side of their owner to be able to do it). A spiritual sword recognizes their owner through the soul or the golden core. So, in fact, Suibian could have been used by Wei Ying but he chose not to do it for multiple reasons. One of them is that you need a golden core to be able to withstand and use the energy of the sword without being hurt by it. And one of Wei Ying's priorities is that no one finds out his golden core's situation. I will develop more the subject of the swords later because it could contain spoilers.

Sakura

Chenqing other meaning = Love that lasted for long time/ Understand/communicate Love/Feelings Lan Zhan's Sword: Bi Chen (qing) = Bi chen (meaning: Bì (避) means to avoid/evade, and Chén (尘) means dust, dirt, or earthly/worldly matters.) Wei Ying's Flute :(Bi) Chen qing = Chenqing Unity: you in me, me in you Wei Ying doesn't channel the resentful energy through himself but through his tools and talismans. But the resentful energy endlessly tries to overwhelm him and it responds to his moods.

Leaf

For me Yanli is not trying to ignore it, but she doesn't want to force Wei Wuxian to come out with what's up with him. She did say she'd like him to tell her about it when he's ready to, which is quite a healthy way to approach it.

nvmind

I think the Wen leader unsheathing the sword was meant as proof that Wen Chao really died and the connection to his sword broke, especially if we tie it to a previous scene when Lan Wangji couldn't unsheathe Suibian. But technically it might also be that Wen Chao just wasn't that powerful in his cultivation or his sword wasn't loyal to him in the first place

lordj

As for Yanli, I think Yanli embodies most Asian families, or at least common in my country. People tend to glaze over the hardships, think about the brightside of things. Sadly, it does not make the problem go away. Personalities like these tend to fall for scams or promises, because they are mostly non-confrontalional and gullible at the same time. I'm not saying Yanli is foolish, but as you said, she is more like dad, personality wise.

nvmind

Yeah I agree with this. She asks him about it and wants to understand but as long as he refuses to explain she just chooses to respect his boundaries and trust his actions. Even if she forced him to say the truth, what could she do about it anyway?

Mairead

from what i understood the resentful energy from the literal burial mounds is what he cultivated while he was there (not saying more bc i cant remember if it is a spoiler or not)

Riri

I do recommend checking out the character songs when you're done cause they are amazing and so connected to the story. Some are sung by the actors themselves, notably wei ying's song, wangji's song and the theme song of the show which is what wangji sang for wei ying in the cave.

Rachel

This is also why the two episodes at a time would have benefited bc 21-21 are very much one arc. The very next scene is…..

nancy metz

Question: Jiang Cheng was also present when Wen Chao died. Why does everyone attribute it solely to Wuxian?

nancy metz

I really hate that Jin Clan cousin. What an A-hole!

nancy metz

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Mayora Marly

It means I dropped everything and sat down to watch this. It's an expression :)

Happy happyyy

Don't know if you have already record the next episode, but I'm still gonna drop some information about cultivating things in xianxie here. As someone who have read dozens of xianxie novel, I'm confident in anything I'm gonna say now. In a xianxie novel, there will ALWAYS be a situation where the main character, who was a good guy with a pure golden core, a true cultivater, got traumatized by some shit, lost his power and fall into demonic cultivation. The difference is that they're gonna meet some kind of grandmaster of demonic cultivation and got lured into it. Here, the main character is the grandmaster. WWX lost his core so he is definitely a normal person now. The difference between normal cultivating and demonic tricks is you don't need a golden core for demonic cultivation. People look down on it because they view demonic cultivaters as weaklings who can't even form a golden core, so they have to choose an easier yet wicked way to be powerful, which is demonic cultivation. That's why people were suspecting WWX so much since he stopped carrying his sword and have some sign of demonic vibe in him. But we all know that he lost his golden core, he doesn't have power anymore, so demonic cultivation is his only way of surviving and to fulfill his promise of being JC's right hand. He doesn't carry his sword because if he does, some people might want to challenge him as a way to learn swordman ship from a famous genus like him. He can definitely draw his sword though, it connected to his soul too. But he can only use it as how we human use it, while cultivaters can make their sword flying around or even ride on it. And yeah, the Yin Irons is not in the novel, they made that up to drag out the show, make it look like it focus on the politics or xianxie stuff instead of the two main, because there is not much to talk about two friends who aren't even roomates :))) Since they have cut out a lot of gay stuffs. The real plot line cut from the days in Gusu, straight to the cave, then the war hit in. Gusu schooling arc ended peacefully as WWX got kicked out because the teacher refused to teach him, JC finish it a year later, come back to Lotus Pier, having fun, then there is a hunting contest that the show cut out. The Wen clan lost and rank last of all contest. They were bitter so they demanded all the clans to send their heir to the Wens, after that the war started.

nancy metz

So, Wangji not being able to unsheth Suibien mean that Wei Wuxian is alive? And that's why he said "Wei, where are you?"

Yifei

xianxia 仙侠

Yifei

Cause he and Lan Wangji were always a few steps behind Wei Wuxian like they said in their lines. Wei Wuxian has basically killed everybody except those two before Jiang Cheng and Lan Wangji arrived.

Katie-Didn’t

They’re beautiful and Xiao Zhan has a GORGEOUS voice!!!

Katie-Didn’t

He lied about being in the Burial Mounds because they wouldn’t believe him if he told the truth. The first person in centuries to leave alive? And they’ll buy that??? He can’t handle the lack of trust after months of being tortured and nagged by resentful spirits while scavenging for water and anything edible. No spoilers because it doesn’t mention it.

Katie-Didn’t

Noooot a flashback to the Burial Mounds. Part of his consciousness is still stuck there till he’s done refining his equipment. Think one foot in the spirit world and one foot in the living world- how he learned to speak their language (it will NEVER tell you exactly what happened anywhere).

Katie-Didn’t

Think Yin and Yang, the cultivators are cultivating life energy and store it in their golden core (Yin) my bad, Yang. He’s cultivating leftover death energy that’s hanging around where it shouldn’t be, he’s NOT storing it, and is not attempting to live longer or have personal gain but help both the dead resolve their issues and the living improve their safety and be able to travel through previously dangerous areas (Yang) my bad, Yin. Edit- I always mess up which is Yin and Yang because of the way the symbol is dissected (only when Yin is strongest it has the little dot of Yang and vice versa so it’s always labeled oddly and got stuck in my head that way. Yin is black, the moon, feminine, mystery, cold, passive, quiet, related to the spirit etc. YANG is the white, the sun, warm, active, loud, providing form to all things (so anything that actually died and came back, (undead, zombie, vampire, would require use of either the strongest Yin to provide form with the bit of yang to provide spirit, or semblance of life) or the strongest Yang to provide their spirit fully, even lifelike, and their form. Using both equally would have the most lifelike results however the creator would theoretically control the creation they made themselves provided their yin spirit was stronger and they knew how).

Katie-Didn’t

33:54 I guess you didn’t notice that that’s the guy who betrayed the Lan Clan and told the Wens about the headbands- he’s not wearing the same colors (yellow/gold) as the Jins.

Katie-Didn’t

Think about the name of the flute… part of why he was gone so long was kinda learning to “speak” the language to control the “ghosts” Qingching is something like “conveying intentions clearly without misunderstanding”

Katie-Didn’t

45:99 The way you’ve seen people acting towards him has had a LOT of fans applying “Enemy” by Imagine Dragons to this area of the show and it honestly fits way more than it should.

Katie-Didn’t

59:36 OMG YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND BECAUSE YES!!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ He ALWAYS feels he HAS to keep his promises. He’s never felt he’s gotten to choose what he wants to do with his life. Like even being a cultivator: giving up his golden core felt freeing for him in many ways.

Katie-Didn’t

1:12:46 Remember the names are REALLY important- Yanli: “to loath separation” or “detest leaving” or the MILD, “without separation”. There’s also an implication of longing to leave behind any controversy or suffering and just be WITH her figurative “home”- her family and family USUALLY implies a comforting peaceful environment (not mine but I think most normal people I’m told). So you’re talking about 2 SUPER messed up brothers, one because he’s literally incapable of letting himself show he cares about any human aside from himself and his sister other than ONE accidental hug so shocking his brother couldn’t process fast enough to hug him back, and generally just acts like he’s trying (and failing) to be his mother and just comes off as being SUPER butt hurt ALL the time like he has elephantiasis of the hemorrhoids. He DOES care and need SELF-care and if he ever showed the SLIGHTEST bit of that there are a lot of people who would be sympathetic and try to help… and he’d tell them exactly where to go and make sure he was never in their presence again because anything he accomplishes will be without ANYONE propping him up or, what normal people call it, help. Jiang Cheng- “clear river” for tranquility, clarity, reflection and was given to symbolize his father’s wish for his son’s inner peace. “Wanyin” is “evening chant” from a poem called The Master Of Three Poisons and it’s about his struggle against greed, anger, and ignorance (why you don’t see Cheng like a clear tranquil river). The other stopped emotionally developing around 8 years old after he remembered having a family and being happy, loved, and loving them. He’d tried to be friends with other street kids but they either died or ran him off. He survived BECAUSE he had the body of a talented cultivator that healed faster and could go without food and water longer. Anyone who seemed to care left, people he liked didn’t care about him and it hurt too much to try anymore by the time he was found and taken back to the Jiang clan. He can’t help caring and loving the people he does, but if he doesn’t act like his true self or let anyone know what HE needs to actually feel cared for or loved, in his self-defense mechanism he can’t be rejected since they never actually accepted him anyway. Since all the little rejections keep adding up even with his false bravado, fat chance of him being vulnerable. Wei Ying Wuxian has. SUPER important meaning I explained on YouTube so I won’t repeat. Is it THAT surprising that Wei Ying is an amazing loving open minded person that anyone would be SUPER lucky to have as a friend, Jiang Cheng might make you punch him and he might try to choke you to death because he’s mad at himself and blames you, but generally, if you’re friends and he can tell you need a bit of help, no one is gonna mess with you because he’s mad takes loyalty seriously, and Yanli may seem like an angel on earth but it’s mainly because she’s just SUPER peaceful and is happy as long as she has her brothers and can make them stop fighting, but doesn’t consider their relationship without her because she’s WITH them. Why would there VE a “without her”??? It’s not something that would occur to her generally.

Sam Atkins

wwx”s cultivation was at a high enough level to where his sword will only recognize him and wont open for others. even if he dies they cannot unsheathe it. if you can open anothers sword it means they arent at a high cultivation level such as wen chao. wwx can still unsheathe his own sword even without the golden core