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lordj

Wuxian loves spicy food. Lan Zhan eats bland food. But he tried to get used to spicy food for Wuxian. 🤣

Becca Rose

Thank god, I was dying for a good reaction today

lordj

Inquiry is canon in the novel, as it is the Lan's way of communicating with the dead using music. Empathy on the otherhand, which will be shown next, is Wuxian's own developed style of talking with the dead. Inquiry was also used by Lan Zhan when he tried to talk with Jin Ling's soul and Jin Ling kept on answering he doesn't know.

Rachel

Ah, that's what everyone calls them. Wei Wuxian's ducklings!

Rachel

I'm so here for your Jin Ling love. This poor kid. He's just trying to make it through.

Leaf

Guangyao targets all the gay couples because he's a jealous mf who can't bear to see other queer couples happy after his throuple failed 😔

Leaf

'what's with the Scooby-Doo ass music in the background ' PLEASE LMAO

Leaf

Wuxian birthed A'Yuan, and then planted him in the ground like a radish in Yiling 🫜 😂

Leaf

I wonder if Jing Ling was also influenced by his grandma (Jixuan's mum )so he was still brought up by someone with a bit of sense

Meri

Cant wait for the next one!🫶

nvmind

so real hahaha

nvmind

I understand your criticism of talking to the dead and I partially agree, I would love to see them discover the information in other ways too, but if we consider the mute symbolic of people in society being silenced then I think talking to the dead is a way to show respect and give victims a chance to have their voice heard

luvbunnies

I love the wangji househusband agenda lol. Wangji's world is only surrounded around wuxian anyway, he would love nothing more than to just take care of his hubby all day. also when talking about the ducklings they remind me of wangji, jiang cheng and wei wuxian in their younger days. Jin ling is just like his uncle in terms of his attitude and behaviour. Lan Sizhui is more like lan wangji even tho he is more gentle than wangji used to be. I feel like sizhui is what wangji would have been had he grown up more loved and with alot less restrictions. Lan jingyi is the most like teenage wuxian, always bickering and being mischievous, and he doesn't hesitate to speak his mind.

Katie-Didn’t

Those murder smiles man… you might be right 😂

luvbunnies

Yes you do not mess with wangji in this world. the cultivation realm is honestly so lucky that wangji is a righteous person who will never harm innocents because otherwise they would all be screwed. Wangji is probably ranked in top 3 with his martial strength because he is just that powerful, he is literally an unstoppable beast. The only person who ever had a chance against wangji was wuxian which is why they were equal in terms of their strength in the past. Now wuxian has a weaker body and so his strength is not on par with wangji technically but still the only person who could fight against wangji and possibly win would be wuxian, cause wangji can never hurt him. i love their dynamic so much because they always saw the other as their equal.

L Pio

I'm loving your questions and analysis so much! I hope you're having as much fun making these videos as we are watching them. Everything will be answered in time! From here on out, it's nothing but juicy content and exciting revelations *-*

Katie-Didn’t

I feel for him but he IS a lil brat. Out of myself, 3 older brothers and an older sister NONE of us would have gotten away with his attitude from ANYONE in our family- my sister was literally picked up and carried, kicking and screaming, in front of everyone at a high school party she’d snuck out to when pretending to be sick, her hands had to be tied to get her home in the car, and she stayed that way till she stopped screaming, cursing, and trying to hit/kick anyone nearby once she was home. After she was finally willing to TALK, calmly, about what happened my parents had a long conversation with her and she ended up grounded with extra chores for like, 3 months. She had an attitude like Jinling AND lied: it wouldn’t have gone so badly if she’d toned it down and snuck out without actually lying (my mom’s personal trigger for “asking for assistance whooping”, especially if you don’t admit you lied when directly asked). Being THAT disrespectful, talking back to elders, repeatedly breaking the same rules, refusing to listen to adults in charge as a norm instead of exception… ALL of us would have had regular ass whoopings whether it was actually having our butt whipped or something equally painful and tailored for our personalities to whatever would hurt us just as badly (to ensure the lesson stuck: 2 of my brothers never really cared much if they got a butt whipping, even if my grandma used a switch, just because it didn’t hurt long and they’d decided whatever they wanted to do was worth the whipping when they decided to go ahead and do it, sometimes my sister was the same (i.e. going to a high school party in 9th grade with ALCOHOL and BOYS? A whole night of forbidden fun=ass whipping totally worth it to her which was why she didn’t get one and her pride was punished instead since she’d have to live with the rest of high school and everyone knowing her MOM carried her over her shoulder out of the party, kicking and screaming (my dad’s temper would have gotten cops involved), and she was given all the chores she always felt were demeaning and nasty but no one else was going to dust or clean the bathroom for MONTHS in a house with 7 people, 3BR & 1 bathroom so she’d get caught quick if she didn’t do a good job and the rest of us were threatened with being grounded twice as long if we helped her). All simply because she needed a form of punishment that both stuck with her enough to prevent her from doing it again AND would target the source of the general behavior- her overly proud and arrogant attitude that had been getting worse till she talked to them after the incident about her issues causing the attitude and lashing out. Her attitude improved afterwards but occasional lashing out still happened though the frequency drastically decreased) so my parents would customize how they disciplined us based on our personalities, what we’d done & why, and how often we’d done it to target what the cause of the behavior was and HOPEFULLY combine a way to do that with something that would be bad enough to us, as individuals, to make sure we didn’t WANT to do anything like it again. One brother has SEVERE ADHD and couldn’t even manage to watch an entire episode of his favorite cartoon as a kid since a commercial break would come on TV, he’d get distracted and couldn’t sit through the entire break, then run off to occupy himself till it was over but get distracted while gone till it the whole episode was over, and end up so upset and frustrated about the entire situation he’d end up crying because it KEPT happening every time and he couldn’t manage to fix it. He was the ONLY one who could get away with behavior that was unacceptable for the rest of us since he was ALWAYS in trouble for breaking rules and if they just constantly told him he was wrong and “you can’t do that” he’d have been like “screw it, if everything I do is wrong already, why bother TRYING to follow the rules?” and considering the kind of idiotic, dangerous, thoughtless things he did when TRYING, he probably would have died, accidentally killed someone, or demolished the house and set the pieces on fire (because, of course, the tree was ALREADY leaning so he just HELPED the tree fall sooner… and yes he had a couple candles lit in his room and left them unattended to go outside and play, but they weren’t THAT close to anything flammable and he’d only done it to help with the teenage boy smell from sharing the room etc etc). But even though he got away with more than the rest of us could have, he was still disciplined more often than anyone else. His discipline after breaking the same rules multiple times generally involved physically taking away any form of entertainment making him bored and miserable without anything to do with ADHD and/or having to stay seated in a single spot without getting up for a set amount of time that reset if he tried to get up or go anywhere, again making him fight his ADHD due to the consequences of moving (the explanation given to him being he’d think things through before acting because everything you do has consequences; the suffering of his boredom with ADHD making the lesson stick). Point being, the 5 of us had individual personalities and individual punishments for our individual behavior problems and Jinling’s type of bratty attitude & behavior would have been nipped off or he wouldn’t have been allowed to be around anyone who’d have to deal with it till he decided to fix it instead of making others feel bad just because HE has issues. I’ve accepted that people frequently do it and why, but never UNDERSTOOD why anyone takes out their issues on others in ways that make them feel uncomfortable, upset, angry, guilty, or bad. If everyone else is saying the same things about you or triggering you, then it’s likely YOUR problem to fix, not theirs. Even if they’re saying something about your personality that’s totally wrong, it’s still something about how you act or talk making them think so and your choice is to ignore it because it’s not true, or modify how you conduct yourself so people don’t feel that way about you anymore. It’s not going to help anyone to lash out at them since everyone has an opinion and you’ll just make it worse (which is why I don’t understand why it’s done).

Katie-Didn’t

The show never says but in the novels she basically checked out and went back to her family after her husband died and she was a match for Madam Yu anyway given how she knew her husband acted when he wouldn’t get caught by her. His lechery was NOT tolerated by her and he WAS afraid of being caught by her. He didn’t have women fawning all over him in Carp Tower like in the show unless he KNEW she was gone on a trip or something. She would have cut off his balls if he’d been like that in her presence or found out he’d brought his nastiness to her home. The only real difference between her and Madam Yu is she put on an act for the world outside of her family for the reputation of “the richest, but humble & gracious clan” with grace. When it was just family and personal servants she was worse than Madam Yu (many MANY servants ran away or were dismissed because of her temper). Don’t forget she was besties with Madam Yu. Do you think Madam Yu would have been close to a “weakling” that couldn’t fight as a match with her and had a gentle personality? They both married for what they wanted- Madam Yu for power over the clan and her bestie for riches and indifference so she could spend her days as she pleased. Neither tolerated their family causing harm (perceived or real) to their reputation well AT ALL.

Katie-Didn’t

So in most beliefs in Asia that believe in reincarnation, the belief is that there’s the mortal AND immortal soul. The immortal soul leaves to reincarnate after death no matter what, but the mortal soul is the part of you from THAT life, not the part that’s been reincarnated before- it’s the remains of that SINGLE life lived. If you have an obsession strong enough or heart demons, the mortal soul CAN separate and refuse to move on till it’s resolved. This can delay reincarnation depending on the judgement received in the afterlife (punishments still have to be carried out and by the time that’s done the mortal soul may have moved on to join back together) and the judgement may make your immortal soul wait or make you move on anyway since THAT particular life lived will eventually join you since you’ll keep reincarnating till you become a Buddha/reach nirvana/whatever the ultimate height is, or are recruited to work in the afterlife to help other souls forever. Either way, it’s a mortal obsession and that part of your soul will hang around resolving it, giving up, or being forcibly retrieved by the equivalent of a reaper. So in the story, the only deceased beings they can talk to are the mortal souls that CHOOSE not to move on till they accomplish whatever their obsession is. This was kind of the point Wei Ying tried to make in class when he was thrown out: helping the dead/undead resolve their obsession is better than suppressing them (which is basically trapping them in place so they can’t hurt anyone then leaving them till they dissipate on their own which could take centuries) and if they want something not easily accomplished, why not use their energy to accomplish things that align with what you’re trying to do at the time? It uses up their harmful energy AND helps achieve what you were trying to do. They want murder and vengeance? Summon them to fight for you and everyone gets what they want. It’s keeping them under control and not dying or going insane that was the problem and reason for the taboo. So, you have to remember that they can ONLY talk to any of the dead that are both WILLING to answer AND haven’t moved on. They aren’t summoning the dead from the afterlife. Wei Ying CAN summon the dead from a MUCH larger distance than anyone else and MAKE them talk to Lan Zhan, but he’s obviously not doing that. He can only do it everything he taught himself working with the dead basically gave him a reputation among the dead that’s more respected and feared than Lan Zhan’s among the living. In the novels any spirits around avoided or flocked to him (basically trying to see if they could help out) and undead that weren’t strong like the one they’re currently trying to put back together would literally stop and kowtow to him or run away if fairly weak once they were close enough to sense his presence. It was actually an issue for him in the novels trying to travel with Lan Zhan and NOT give away his identity when they ran into undead and resentful spirits. Since he looked like Mo in the novels and Lan Zhan didn’t let on that he knew who Wei Ying really was till they’d been traveling to put the arm back with the body for a WHILE compared to the show, he kept avoiding any undead, trying to block LZ’s line of sight, or make up random crap like “wow! You really ARE powerful to scare them away just by looking at them” playing dumb like he didn’t know Lan Zhan before they met in the forest either. HOWEVER, Wei Ying can understand and feel what KIND of energy is making the undead hang around and doesn’t force anyone who wasn’t a bad person or want to do harm to begin with (like the undead old lady who doesn’t realize she’s dead yet). When he plays his flute to summon for fighting, he’s summoning those with evil intentions to allow their resentment to dissipate with the fighting and those who are willing to help (those ones tend to leave when they can’t dodge a death blow since they still have their own reason for hanging around or some wanted to die in battle or something they wanted to do can be accomplished by helping so they can move on after helping for example)

Katie-Didn’t

3:30 reminds me of Deadpool talking to Negasonic Teenage Warhead when he says “what’s it gonna be? Snarky comment or sullen silence?” and she goes “… you’ve got me in a corner here”😂🤣

Katie-Didn’t

“The gay couple in the forest that lost their eyes” 🤣🤣🤣

Katie-Didn’t

Jinling definitely wants everyone off his case but Wuxian is like “I cant believe my sister isn’t hanging around haunting the hot mess out of Jiang Cheng for letting him act like this”

Katie-Didn’t

Wangji totally does the cooking in the novels. Or they get takeout 🤣😂. Lotus Pier food is normally spicy but Wuxian always liked everything spicier than even Jiang Cheng or Yanli could stand. 1:02:20 Wangji is intended to be presented in the show as someone who is ABSOLUTELY NEVER going to allow Wei Ying to be hurt again or allow ANY chance of losing him as long as they both continue to keep their promise they made with the lantern as teenagers again after the last 16 years of his life being lived in mourning so deep he just went through the motions of preparing everything for Wuxian to walk in because he couldn’t allow himself to believe he was completely gone without a trace of even his soul. If he allowed himself to believe he was dead, he would have to admit to himself WHY his body and soul were gone without a trace and he could NOT handle the idea that he had contributed to THAT kind of death (yes, Wuxian’s death was legit horrific, painful, and terrifying which is why he’d blocked it out at first and later just kept pretending he didn’t remember to make sure Wangji didn’t torture himself over that too. Even if he suspects it he can’t confirm it if Wuxian doesn’t admit remembering.) Wuxian has frequent nightmares about the torture and pain of his death, re-living it repeatedly, but while they’re traveling together having nightmares can’t really be a secret from Wangji since it wakes him up, but Wangji also doesn’t know WHICH horrible thing that’s happened to Wuxian is giving him nightmares or even if he’s always had them. So the more Wangji thinks and learns about everything Wuxian has been through, the more determined he becomes about his goals of keeping him safe and making sure he feels accepted and wanted to keep from losing him.

Katie-Didn’t

The black veins indicate they’re undead rather than a spirit or monster in human form. Like the lady in red Wuxian was working with was a spirit so no veins.

Katie-Didn’t

NO ONE is like Wen Ning, he retains his entire soul because even in the novels Wuxian caught up everything and put it back in him before it got far and worked day and night to put it all back together. He made Wen Ning a puppet at the moment of his death and was able to catch everything before it moved on or dissipated because of that. No one else managed that in history though they’ve tried. A normal puppet can’t make intelligent decisions that aren’t related to the reason their mortal soul chose to linger. Wen Ning was ALWAYS taken care of by his sister when he was alive so he has the SAME trouble with independence now, but he’s perfectly capable of independence even though he’ll always feel Wuxian’s presence since he’s the one that put his soul and consciousness back together

Katie-Didn’t

The truth is the truth but it doesn’t explain circumstances. If you jump and land on a sword someone is holding, they killed you. That’s why it’s important to ask the right questions and investigate.

Sevvy4ever

Sizhui and Jin Ling might be cousins but I still ship them lmao

Katie-Didn’t

They don’t really measure cultivation against everyone since seniors don’t really spar with juniors of a separate generation unless they’re a personal disciple. Unless it really WAS “in all history” they’d only look at each generation separately. So he’d have to reach Bo Sanren’s level or close like you said. Wangji IS the top of his generation with Jiang Cheng at 2nd (wonder how he managed THAT without noticing a difference 🙄) due to his obsession with cultivation in every spare moment since he lost his core. At first to be strong enough for revenge for Lotus Pier, then “in case Wuxian ever comes back”.

Katie-Didn’t

44:10- given that it’s Xue Yang we’re discussing, he doesn’t need to work for anyone and can work with everyone while working for himself so why would he pick one person to work for when he never has before? 1:00:40 I absolutely LOVE your impression of Cue Yang!!! It’s spot on what the author was going for!!! ❤️ I think I’d also mentioned in a comment from the episode that introduced him (in response to when you’d said something about the scene being weirdly out of place or messing up the flow or something along the lines that the whole scene with him felt off or like it didn’t belong) that this is the ONLY version of the story where Xue Yang is introduced in the flashbacks because there’s no Yin Iron in any other version so no special knowledge about it from being the grandson of the original owner etc. If you recall the episodes of Wuxian living in the burial mounds and going into town for supply runs when fans (and stans) of him started showing up and fighting and selling stuff? That’s basically Xue Yang, a super-fan turned stan who determined fairly young to be JUST like the Yiling Patriarch (he’s supposed to be in his late twenties-ish). His character was INTENDED to be a mostly parallel life to Wei Ying with a VERY similar personality specifically to show what a huge difference your choices and what you decide to do with your opportunities makes. He is SUPPOSED to be introduced into the story here as a psych fan of the Yiling Patriarch in his 20s (so he was very young during the major events leading to Wuxians death and the bulk of his life was after that, sorting rumors from facts and learning whatever he could about Wei Ying, identifying with their origins being so similar and deciding it was fate telling him to follow the same cultivation path so he could get where he wanted faster making him MORE psychotic) so he was basically supposed to be a Yiling Patriarch “stan” who acts as a foil for Wuxian showing “THIS guy IS the evil everyone accused me of being due to the “wicked tricks/demonic cultivation I use. See the difference? Notice all the good things that didn’t hurt anyone I accomplished with it vs what THIS evil psycho has done with the same practices” parallel. The way you clock them as so similar yet so different is EXACTLY what was intended!

Katie-Didn’t

Xiao Xingchang was a disciple of Bo Siren which means he was an orphan she took in. No knowledge about family is a rule of hers to avoid worldly attachments. Where the theme of blindness is concerned, if you look at the people who are blinded they’re all good or at least decent people who don’t want to cause any harm and try to help others. With Xiao and Song Lan in particular they were known in particular for being unbiased, just, and helpful to anyone in need. This particular theme always struck me as a combination of justice being blind AND blinding those who would see the unbiased truth and make a fair and just conclusion.

Katie-Didn’t

49:50 I love how much you’re noticing about Wei Ying’s character because this is basically a few weeks since the fight at Nightless City from his POV. He was obviously very grown and mature at the time, had educated himself about his “demonic” cultivation path VERY well during his time in the Burial Mounds, and was NOT the person everyone claimed at the time. He clocked Xue Yang the moment Song Lan said “Xiou Xingchang” killed him, but answered who was controlling him as “the one behind you” instead of his name again.

Katie-Didn’t

Talking to the dead only feels like a cop-out to me when the characters can’t solve anything without the dead basically spelling it out- like with Jinling trapped in the wall of the tomb except it didn’t bother me really because it was Jingling leading them to himself before he fully kicked off. Given how important the dead are to the entire plot of “what’s good and what’s evil” in this show, I’m not bothered because it’s necessary to show how using the OTHER side of the Yin & Yang energy for the safety and protection of people isn’t any different than using spiritual energy: it can be used FOR good or evil in ways that are morally wrong or morally right. Plus only the Lan clan and Wuxian CAN communicate with the dead in this show so it’s not something most cultivators do. Time travel bothers me ONLY when creating paradoxes which happens WAY more often than most people notice. THAT drives me insane. Multiverse stuff is more something I think should be used for fun or filler episodes. Like for butterfly effect comparison or one difference in a persons life changes them drastically and just having a little fun comparing and contrasting the different versons of people. It’s not really something I enjoy as part of a plot except MAYBE along the lines of time travel creating another universe or pocket universe as a side effect, but not really something to USE in the story. I also don’t mind a storyline using a “mirror” universe of everything being reversed as long as there aren’t a bunch of people migrating (that also drives me insane because physics. Every universe can only contain the amount of energy it has which cant be created or destroyed. I can accept 1-2 people not unbalancing everything, especially temporarily, but not like, mass migration to try to take over the world or anything).

Katie-Didn’t

It’s really just the Lan clan and Wuxian that can reliably communicate with the dead, it’s not common practice- most cultivators find and destroy or suppress anything dead without discussion or investigation.

Katie-Didn’t

He was trying to fulfill A’Yuans request for siblings so he had to sprout or branch off 😂

Katie-Didn’t

Agreed except Jingyi is kinda dumb, he’s only like Wuxian in that he’s got something to say about everything and sass stat 1000%. I always thought he’s like a less angry Jiang Cheng, especially with how he always wants the last word and his constant eye rolling.

nancy metz

I am, too. Yes, Jin Ling is bratty and arrogant. He even has JC's eye roll down perfectly. But he's courageous and learning to be a leader.

nancy metz

It gets me that although Wuxian uses taliasmons and a flute, the juniors don't give him a second thought. They aren't suspicious at all.