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(I make some wild conjectures but the gif still stands lol.)

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ten

im watching the finale with a friend tomorrow, CANNOT WAIT TO PUT MY HANDS ON THIS REACTION !!!

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😄💜

Vee

it's also going to take me some time (and probably a rewatch) before i can articulate my thoughts on the season but i think i overall liked it with some major caveats. LMFAO at ignoring armand’s hair, i had the exact same thought. like i realise what he’s saying is important, but i’m very distracted. also is this not the THIRD time they reveal that armand was orchestrating everything? check out fucking…. armand all along over there “a room without walls, floors, a ceiling. an infinite nothing" 🤝 "an eager black hole" "my companion", "the wife", “the boss”. sniles so sneetly. bit upset all of this relationship development seems to be happening off-screen? i'm hoping they revisit it in future seasons. i knew someone was going to pronounce the word yaoi at some point during the season but i fully expected it to be lestat. they got me. also “manther” lol. daniel’s controversially young ancient boyfriend. agree with your point about love (louis’ and lestat’s) being at the core of it all (see: louis being the anchor again and again throughout the season!) also that dining table coming back repeatedly. and the metaphysical search for the existence of the soul (which is very book canon). and the long term effects of sexual abuse on various characters, victims or perpetrators or… facilitators. gabriella showing baby lestat victims of sexual violence being burned by their abusers as a part of “cleaning up” sounds more like a veiled threat than a plea to escape to me lol. this whole scene is too much i can’t talk about it. (this soundtrack too, goddamn!!) on armand branding louis, it confused me for a minute but i think i get it now. first of all the scarlet letter implications are hilarious. but i think a part of it might be a bit like, getting the last word in? sure, okay it’s all about lestat, but let’s see you forget about this. also assad did say something insightful on the subject, which is that the only type of love armand knows is violent. and that brings us back to the idea of him trying to replicate his first traumatic dynamic, etc. AND this is the first time anyone actually acknowledges what happened to him in a serious manner (parallels to be made with the way lestat treats his own trauma here)! everyone made jokes about it the entire season (and prior) but it takes louis to bridge these opposite shores and recognise his pain, while still refusing to forgive him for the insane shit he pulled (eg Paris). i don’t think armand was even thinking about that when he said he’d been wronged, but it’s what he needed to hear anyway. 'sorry, and also fuck you.' louis has a talent for that. i’ll admit i'm a bit baffled by the choice to bring in paul specifically to deliver this last message. even if it's only the paul in lestat’s head, i’m not fully convinced it was the right choice here. i liked the scene! but i’m torn. anyway, thank you for this watchalong! i’ll see you all on discord once i’m capable of being coherent.

Christen

The writer side of me is in awe of how they tied all these threads together into a beautifully emotional final episode. I'm going to be thinking about how Paul heard birds and how Lestat dreamed of translating birdsong and imagined Paul at his death as a source of reassurance, and what that says about Lestat for a long time. Another part of me is convinced Armand's hair and styling was the best part of the episode. Tied with Lestat's pink corset blouse for best part of the whole season. Your reactions to this show are my favorite, I can't wait to do this again in season 4!! You're one of the only ones not focused on deciding who's right and who's wrong and looking deeper at what's going on, thank you!

JessIsMore

The gif is exactly correct.... god damn this show.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

YOUR FACE watching this was all the reaction I needed. Your sincerity shines through and I appreciate it so much. —— I’m contemplating whether the show intended for that “A” carving on Louis to be a reference to The Scarlett Letter and labeling someone for ridicule after the unholy creation of a child. I hope somebody asks the writers if that was an intended reference or if it only happens to fit because of Armand’s initial and blood.

Mark Walker

Justin Kirk in Angels in America!!! That's when I first became aware of him.

Seb

i’m conflicted on how to feel, i definitely liked the finale and season overall but i can’t help but feel like they sidelined louis in a way? the whole apology to armand scene kinda felt like the show itself was wanting us to almost forgive armand for everything he’s done? as an armand fan believe me i understand why he is the way he is and the “you were 12” was gut wrenching but i think i would’ve liked louis to fight back a bit more, bring up the MULTITUDE of things armand has ruined in his life repeatedly and compare it to what louis did to armand, i feel like armand’s actions aren’t really warranted 😭 and then to suddenly jump to louis suddenly being put back to together and we don’t even get any aftermath of him. idk i definitely enjoyed the season more than a lot of others from what i’ve seen and cannot WAIT for season 4 but i think it had a lot more writing issues than the previous 2 seasons

Zeenat Littles

I see no one saying it, so I will. I'm disgusted by how the poc characters were treated in this show, and I don't think I will be watching season 4.

Janeka Rector

IMO: Claudia did love Louis. That’s why her rage at him runs so hot. She may have *liked* Lestat more but I truly believe she loved Louis more. But him stopping her from killing Lestat, bringing him with them in Europe, choosing Armand over her, staying with her murderer for 77 years after the fact just to spite the other man she despised, giving her diary to Daniel so he could share her trauma with the world and then reading the torn pages to her abuser? And the. Selfishly calling her back to the world to assuage his guilt? Lestat’s a monster but Louis doesn’t understand how selfish and cruel he is.

Janeka Rector

I don’t understand. These actors were given the most amazing material this year. In the books all of these characters are white and the TV show makes them so much more likable. How do you think they were wronged? I’m genuinely curious.

Feather Noir

We just watched the show depict two Muslim-coded South Asian men livestream the brutal torture of two Black people and a beheading of one in a Jewish butchery. They added in this imagery on purpose in the show but I don't have faith that they will follow it up appropriately or that they will have anything meaningful to say after this. ***Very light Book talk in the paragraph*** Neither Armand or Fareed in the books have ever done this to Louis and they would not do it to Louis, specifically. The closest we get is Armand trying to swap Claudia and Madeleine's heads in an attempt to give her an adult body but the experiment fails and so he kills them both. Additionally, he did not love or even like Claudia at all in the books and considered her an abomination from the start. He does not feel this way about Louis on any level in the books and broke up with Louis relatively amicably after making sure Louis was taken care of monetarily. It would make more sense if Armand did this to Lestat and even that would be a bit questionable. ***Book talk done*** Even if they wanted a big confrontation between Armand and Louis there were a number of ways to do it even keeping some of the Saw elements besides this tbh. Or they needed to do way more to get Armand to this state of mania about Louis, specifically. It didn't feel supported by the text of the season nor did it feel in character for Armand to start planning this 3 years out like a supervillain. Armand's core traits are that he's impulsive and opportunistic due to his arrested development and he often self-sabotages his relationships in his insecurity. Couching this Loumand talk in a scene like this ensures a ton of people will not understand what was happening between Louis and Armand. To the point that I have already seen that people don't even understand that Louis was genuinely reflecting on how his decision to regain agency in his abusive relationship with Armand by using the exploitative tools he formed as a pimp while ignoring what that meant for Armand as a child sex trafficking survivor was retraumatizing them both and contributing to their mutual misery in their marriage. But now this valid character introspection on Louis' part seems disingenuous and unearned to a ton of viewers because it is happening while Armand is actively torturing him. Armand's character also is not being allowed the grace to have his pain taken seriously. Instead we're in for yet another 2 years of people saying "he deserved it" or "Marius is right. Armand is a rotten boy" or even saying that he lied in the Louvre about his Maker Marius abusing him and pimping him out. There is also a weird energy in the way the writers appear to want to punish Louis every season by giving him the most over the top grotesque body horror. This could be fine if the other non-Black characters got the same level of body horror with the same amount of sustained screen time showing that body horror. But white characters tend to have their pain and torture hidden or tastefully off camera, like Nicki and Magnus' burning that we never see. Or the 10 secs of Lestat burning in the sun vs the 20min of Louis' charred body in 2x5. Or the Nicki hand chops only being shown for a short 1-2min vs the 30min of headless Louis groaning in excruciating pain. Meanwhile, Lestat is asleep dreaming and we never see his decapitated body and head except for a few seconds at the beginning when Armand shows Louis Lestat's body. Why did the writers put this scene together for these characters in this show? There is at the very least a weird energy happening on this show that needs to be corrected in future seasons.

Feather Noir

Thank you for the reaction. You are always a delight!!!!

Zeenat Littles

Thanks for this, I honestly had no energy to write out everything the way you eloquently did, I'm honestly extremely disappointed with how this series has turned out. It honestly feels like they are trying to punish us for them having to be inclusive by being absolutely disgusting to all the poc characters especially Louis, I'm honestly over it. It gets extremely tiring when everywhere you turn we just keep getting brutalized for no reason, can't escape it in tv or reality, they'll just write it in as punishment for us existing in the show at all.

Zeenat Littles

Please read the reply by Feather Noir they sum up exactly how I feel about the show, I'm not spending time on this show anymore.

Janeka Rector

Since all of these characters are white in the books my first question is: do you honestly think they wouldn’t do this if the characters had stayed white? I think they would. Second, Jacob spoke extensively about the freedom for him and Delainey to not play model minority characters. The exploration of range and depth and villainy was refreshing to them. I can’t address your feelings because they’re based off of your own experiences. I can only say that this show has made these characters far more interesting and likable to me than they are on paper. My favorite characters haven’t shown up in the show yet so, I’ll wait to see if they show up and if so, how they’re handled. (Cuz Louis? Armand? Claudia? Lestat! Are all just terrible as ‘people’. They’re frustrating characters to Me and sometimes Deliberately so according to Anne. Anne’s writing and wild narratives are why I read the books.)

brittany beyerle

in my personal opinion and observation, i felt like it was pretty clear that louis and armand were mutually toxic to each other when louis and armand fought in san francisco. louis making fun of and ridiculing armand for the abuse he endured at the hands of the brothel as a child and then marius told me a LOT (his line, "i am the vampire armand and my daddy vampire groomed me into a little bitch!" - the amount of reactors i saw laugh at this line always throws me). louis took advantage of that trauma and applied pressure to it when he wanted something from him (calling him arun instead of armand in those moments). this isn't me excusing any of the awful things armand has done, i can't excuse anything that any of these characters have done, but so many people work overtime to understand louis and lestat and then don't put in half the effort to understand armand. (again - understand, not excuse) i love this show so much because there is no villain - it's just a bunch of flawed people (and some of those flawed people were turned into flawed supernatural beings). the closest we've gotten to a villain so far are magnus and marius, honestly. loved the reactions and excited to be here for the queen of the damned reactions!