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Buffy The Vampire Slayer 4x22 (Patreon)

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This episode was... an odd finale let's just say haha. Good episode though, really liked the look into the First Slayer! Really hope they bring that back.

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Dipper

You did better than most people do for a first watching! :) Remember, the Slayer has prophetic dreams. I would encourage you to rewatch (and if you want to make me insanely happy, re-react to) this episode after the end of every season going forward. It'll make more and more sense. :) Fun!

slypeartree

You know how sometime you watch the start of a tv show episode and think wtf but it all makes sense at the end? Think of this episode as that for the rest of the whole series. Giles explained the origin (in this verse) of vampires in the first (or second) episode of Buffy: a demon mixed its blood with a human.

Jon Mackay

Fun facts: Dream Riley's use of the term Killer as a nickname for Buffy hearkens back to Bad Girls (1999), in which Buffy tells Faith that "Being a Slayer is not the same as being a killer." This motif was used again in This Year's Girl (2000) when Faith, in Buffy's body, says "I am not a killer!!! I am the Slayer!" Though the words technically mean the same thing, the show is placing a distinction in their context, with Killer referring to murder and Slayer referring to a justified act, in this case Buffy's role as a warrior against the forces of evil. Its use here reflects Riley's role in the Initiative, a group that exists outside the realm of the supernatural yet interferes in that world. Shows such as New Moon Rising (2000) established Riley's black-and-white views toward demons, for which he was admonished by Buffy, who tells him not all demons are evil. By using the term Killer instead of Slayer here, dream Riley reflects this inability to grasp the shades of gray of the demon world while subtly placing Buffy into it (she responds "we're not demons.") This dichotomy reflects Buffy's concerns that, despite his efforts to change, Riley remains an outsider to the world and destiny into which Buffy was born

Jon Mackay

Fun Fact: Xander: "And I'm putting in a preemptive bid for Apocalypse Now, heh?". Willow: "Did you get anything less Heart of Darkness-y?". Apocalypse Now (1979) is a Francis Ford Coppola movie, starring Martin Sheen and Marlon Brando. This movie was based on a short story, by Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness (1899).

Jon Mackay

The translation of the French segment: Giles: (in French) "... the house where we're all sleeping. All your friends are there having a wonderful time and getting on with their lives. The creature can't hurt you there." Xander: (in English) "What? Go where? I don't understand." Giles: (in French) "Oh for God's sake, this is no time for your idiotic games!" Anya: (in French) "Xander! You have to come with us now! Everybody's waiting for you!" Giles: (in French) "That's what I've been trying to tell him." Xander: (in English) "Honey, I don't... I can't hear you..." Anya: (in French) "It's not important. I'll take you there." Xander: (in English) "Well, wait. Where are we going?"

Jon Mackay

Fun Fact: The text being written on Tara's back is a love poem by Sappho of Lesbos, the Greek lyric poet and archetype for homosexual love. The word "lesbian" is derived from her birthplace.

The Value of Life

The Whedonverse is all about subverting expectations. In three seasons they've trained our expectation that the last episode of the season is the final showdown with the big bad. So for season 4 we're thrown off when all that happens in ep 21 leaving us wondering what's left for ep 22 to address. In hindsight I think it makes more sense to think of ep 21 as the season finale and ep 22 as an epilogue.

The Value of Life

On the origin of vampires, you should go back and listen to Giles at the beginning of season 1 episode 2 when he's explaining things to Xander and Willow. He goes over it very briefly.

Vic
>>154679898

Oh that's so cool! I knew of the poem, but I didn't recognize it.

Vic
>>154679685

I think it's kind of sad of the show that a French person needs a translation lol