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Hey - did you guys notice Nvidia's GPUs seem to be going up in price? Kidding aside, we can't think of anything else to talk about this week for Die Shrink, so let's not hide from it. Specifically these are the three subjects we're planning to get into:

Submit your craziest "PC Shortage War Stories"

Tell us what you think about the continued pushback MLID, HUB, Hardware Canucks get from some of the less reputable rumor sites regarding Nvidia manipulating supply.

Tell us which GPU generation you think was "the worst"...because we think RTX 50 Series is honestly in the running for "worst gen ever".

So in other words - Is this the worst? What was the worst? How come we still need to deal with haters this dumb? You have ~3 hours to submit!

https://youtu.be/hZMAoC50iOw

https://youtu.be/Kx4kPVyZRw0

https://youtu.be/leNBIkmtolY

https://www.techpowerup.com/345251/amd-closely-tracking-memory-ecosystem-and-working-with-aibs-to-maintain-radeon-msrps

https://x.com/mooreslawisdead/status/2014438506169246171

https://x.com/mooreslawisdead/status/2014446321915064470

Comments

CompressedAIBlocks

The pushback is absolutely insane. At what point is any corporation/company your friend? Oh wait they never are. It's more likely that a company will manipulate a market than not IMO.

I Dude

Tom, you are a treasure trove of in depth content and analysis. Keep doing what you are doing. I shared this before, but seems appropriate again. my first PC was an old Core2Duo Optiplex that I got for free for volunteering in 2013. (same PC was also sold for $100). I bought a used mining AMD R9 280X and power supply with some extra ram, and had a gaming PC for about 300$. 2years later a bought a second 280X and ran crossfire. Enter the PC gaming Renaissance, it was 2016, I had a new job. So I built an upper-mid range PC for 1500$ with a GTX 1080. Two years later I bought a second GTX 1080 on ebay to run SLI. Except I never bothered to use SLI because it was a pain to switch it on and off because game support was spotty and the micro stutters were ass. This was a good time to be a gamer. At the end of 2019 I upgraded to AM4 with a 3600X. Enter Lockdowns and Mining boom 2 (or was it 3). Come 2021 with new GPU releases, I was planning on just riding it out. I followed tracking youtube live streams and discord servers just to know how screwed I was. An opportunity appeared, luckily AMD was selling their cards from amd.com for MSRP, but competing with bots sucked. I aggressively followed the website to find out if I even had a chance, had to install custom scripts to scrape the stocking data just to add things to cart before they were gone. When I knew it was possible, I sold my GTX 1080s on ebay and finally attempted to buy. It took 2-3 months before I was successful, but finally, I had my shiny 6800XT. 2023-2025 things continuously got better for PC gaming, prices went up and down, but performance per $ went up overall. Mid 2025 I upgraded to AM5 with a 9600X based on Toms reporting. I'm still on the 6800XT, turning down settings is not warm and fuzzy feelings, but I value FPS over visuals. (Im on 1440p ultrawide, so its not like things look that bad.) Late 2025 Enter new gaming disaster, I'm looking to upgrade using the next the Gen releases, but its not the worst if I cant. Opportunities will show up, just have to keep looking for them.

CompressedAIBlocks

I can't pick a single worst generation but I'll make a list in no particular order. 1. NV30 (FX series from Nvidia, horrible performance at the time) 2. R600 (HD 2xxx from ATi, broken MSAA, missed performance targets and late against G80) 3. Blackwell (shortages/manipulated market plus in my opinion every SKU missed the mark in terms of pricing, VRAM and performance)

Cammi Hudson

About the "less reputable rumor sites" are they that blind to what is going on, are they just being hostile for the reason of getting clicks and feedback from the fan boys or are they just paid by the companies to make their pushback articles. My bet is on a combination of these choices.

ParisV

50 series has been the worst. Prices, 5nm, having to push 90 class to 600w on a badly designed cabled that’s known to melt. 5060ti still having 8gb ram option. No competition at top end from AMD.

Prior is the theme 999

I’m not sure why we are scared of a shortage considering we still have options like the Lisuan 7G106! That’s not considering the newly made 6 year old 3060 fresh off the factory!

Cammi Hudson

I've bought two hard drives, one 4tb and one 6tb just to have them. I am buying up 1tb NVMe's just to have them as the price on them is increasing seems like every day. And lastly I bought a 7900XT in 2023, a 9060XT on its release date and thought I was set for years. I bought a 9070XT last week because of the price increases. Now I am set for years in GPU's but didn't need to buy the 9070XT if it wasn't for the price increases.

Dr Deep

I bought a new rig during Halloween and easily saved over $1k over waiting for Boxing Day. The best find was a 7900XT for ~$400 from a guy hard up for cash, who accepted a job out of town and needed bus fare. I got a 32GB ram kit for $50 (shipped) from a guy who lives in the middle of nowhere. My PC case was an Amazon return, when it showed up it had no fans, I sent it back and they sent me a brand new one no questions asked. I purchased a hard drive in the summer for my son's build and Amazon sent 2, so that component was free. The reason I built a new PC was because my RTX 3080 Ti didn't play nice with Linux. Until Nvidia fixes their Linux comparability I'd say they're all bad.

Woody Chang

I'm all for debating the news, but the format of Youtube and social media encourages asynchronous shouting matches with content pieces that have more fluff than evidence. I appreciate when outfits like MLiD and others bring receipts to the table. Like they say in math class-- "show your work."

Cleansweep

I suspect that a lot of the rumor sites that are pushing back against the evidence that Nvidia is cutting supply to consumers are probably either afraid of losing "exclusive access" to any Nvidia sources, or were intentionally sought out by Nvidia employees as a conduit for their PR wings. Either way, they look more and more like clowns or shills the more they deny the market realities of Nvidia GPU supply.

FloridaMan

Having to buy a 5600x for $330 feels painful in the present, but having to buy a 6700xt for $810 was much worse... I had no choice, COVID kept us all inside and my anemic 4 core 4 thread laptop was a stutterfest. I made it up with good deals in the following years, but I'll never buy hardware in a broken market again

Woody Chang

I think the 50 series is probably the worst generation as a result of the perfect storm of RAM shortages, MRSP card shortages, bad pricing due to tariffs, AI bubble madness, etc. Let's also not forget the first part of the 30 series during the pandemic. Maybe it's because it was a few years ago, but it decently painful then if you wanted to upgrade or build something. I guess in fairness to the 30 series/rDNA2 era, you could still occassionally get things at MSRP, unlike now.

FloridaMan

I still feel like 20-series was the worst from Nvidia. Hardware features that were useless for many months, minimal uplift in the high end over the previous generation, and no VRAM increase from the 10-series. Not to mention a very expensive $1200 GPU that in hindsight was the only one that had reasonable VRAM

Cleansweep

I think 5000 series is going to wind up being the worst generation by technicality of everything piling up right now. But I'll be honest, Nvidia's generations since Ampere just kind of blend together in my mind with how the launch lineups tended to screw gamers if they didn't pony up for the 90s or wait until Nvidia grudgingly gave us Super cards.

Billy Mays

The 20 series for me was a real dud. Coming off of Pascal, all Turing offered (pre super) for most of the lineup was the same raster for the same price at higher power, the 2070 in particular. Yes, those cards could theoretically do ray tracing but the performance was so poor at the sub 2080ti level. The Dlss advantage didn’t come to fruition until Dlss 2.0 in spring 2020, 18 months after launch. By that time the much better 30 series was right around to corner.

speedlemur

Re: tiresome debate on effectively cancelled vs absolutely cancelled. I just think the whole debate distracts from the actual story. If people can't buy gpus who cares about the difference. In effect, I am saying that effectively cancelled is effectively the same as absolutely cancelled.

B1ngB0ng3

Do you think, that with enough times that Nvidia has blatantly screwed the consumer, there will be a time where there's enough momentum to finally begin affecting the mindshare stranglehold that Nvidia, at least in appearance, seems to have? And do you think that if they expand their tech into other products, that it'll potentially affect supply of those products?