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Die Shrink 29: Ampere Features, XBOX SSD, PS5's Situation (High Hanging Fruits 1) (Patreon)

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2020-09-25 18:21:12
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2022-03-09 01:18:19
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2026-06
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This episode is the high hanging fruit - the things we forgot to discuss about a few popular subjects. RDNA 2, Ampere, PS5 Backwards Compatibility & PS+, XBOX SSD Prices & Game Pass, and rising game prices…

https://twitter.com/UFDisciple/status/1309211663405641730

https://www.cnet.com/news/xbox-expansion-microsoft-buys-fallout-maker-bethesdas-parent-company-for-7-5b/

https://www.polygon.com/2020/9/24/21454190/xbox-series-x-storage-expansion-card-price-seagate-ssd-1-tb-buy

https://wccftech.com/ps5-spider-man-no-free-upgrade/

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/playstation-confirms-its-ps5-games-will-cost-70/

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ishould

When I get my PS5, I'm just going to get an external HDD for games and swap them to the SSD when I need them, just like I currently do with steam. How many games do people really need available at their fingertips? Even 150GB game being transferred at 50MB/s would only only take like an hour to swap...

TSPCFS

TBH, I personally don't get how people have enough games to fill up 1TB of a dedicated gaming console... Than again, I owned a PS3 for like 3 games, a PS4 pro for one game, a Switch for one game, a 3DS for two games, etc. So i'm a bit abnormal in that sense.

Austin Baldino

Tom is such a Xbox and PlayStation fanboy. Also I need to know how many animals Dan killed today. What are you thinking with Quadro RTX A prices? Similar to the versions in the original Quadro RTX lineup or the 6000 will be priced at the current 8000?

David del Rio

I think whether or not Zenimax games will be exclusive is going to be entirely up to Sony. Want Starfield? Give us God of War and Spiderman. No? Then I guess you don't get it. What they bought is leverage.

MooresLawIsDead

$4000-$5500 I am told Nvidia is being more aggressive in the professional market too....because they think RDNA 2 professional cards could be significantly better than previous AMD gens.

MooresLawIsDead

But there is legitimately a big difference between 825GB with an unbloated OS installed, and 500GB with Windows taking up 1/4th of it. And as for games...there is way more than one game you should have played on that PS4 lol.

Austin Baldino

That is what I am hoping. Was planning a 3090 when it is in stock but might just save up for a Quadro A card. For development, not gaming. Do wish they were HBM2e though. Seems like some applications I use are a bit faster with HBM2 than GDDR6. Just a cost saving move I am assuming.

ishould

I skipped the PS4, so I'm looking forward to buying awesome exclusive games on the cheap and hopefully getting enhanced graphics to boot

MooresLawIsDead

You know my opinion by now if you have seen my recent videos. I think GA102 should have used HBM, and there should have been a 60-72SM GA103 with 384-bit NORMAL GDDR6.

MooresLawIsDead

It just doesn't make any sense to not sell Starfield on PS5 - why not make the money? What they will do instead is say "It's just $10 a month on PC/XBOX, or you can pay us $70 for the PS5 version." I think that's a way smarter way for them to play it. Also, I don't think they want Sony buying up tons of other devs too in response to them holding Bethesda hostage. I mean let's just say it would suck if all of the sudden Sony and MS each owned half of all studios...that's a reality that may happen though...

Austin Baldino

Completely agree. Instead they make a move to a new, slightly faster and much more power hungry memory, while an even faster and more efficient memory already exist. Might be wrong in saying HBM2 is faster than GDDR6x but believe it is.

David del Rio

Doesn't Sony also want to make more money? Yet God of War, Spiderman, etc., are not available on XBox or PC. They have their studios and those studios make games for their console. Is Sony holding their studios hostage? Bethesda is a Microsoft company now. It's theirs--and I'm pretty sure that Microsoft is aware that most people aren't going to buy both consoles. For console-only gamers, it's one or the other. If it's the other, sure, Microsoft makes a profit on a game if they release it on PS5--but people will just continue to say, "Microsoft has no good exclusives." They'll pay the extra money and move on. Microsoft's not trying to sell a game, they're trying to win a war. But I agree. I don't think that either Microsoft OR Sony want to be forced to continue to buy up every game development company--but Sony wants that even less than Microsoft. Microsoft has far more resources than Sony--but it's not an ideal situation for either. Still, I just don't think Zenimax titles are going to be coming out for PS5 unless Microsoft gets something more than another game sale in return.

MooresLawIsDead

It only uses less energy at the same speeds as GDDR6. Listen to what I said in my last video - I outline how GDDR6X is clearly not efficient enough.

JBG84

Good to hear from you! Love the podcast(s). The notion of overclocking 14Gbps GDDR6 to 16Gpbs on a 384bit bus RTX3090. Any overclocking generally deteriorates performance/efficiency ratio. On the flip side, underclocking likely improves, though to a smaller degree (GDDR6X 21Gbps to 19.5Gpbs). Thus the effeciency gap between the two RAM technologies should widen beyond Microns documented comparison (15%) in a GDDR6 @16Gbps vs GDD6X @19.5Gbps comparison, while bandwidth narrowed. I would expect fairly comparable on Watts. (Yes I watched the video of Quadro vs RTX, but that was more analysis through speculative deduction). That was my thought process is all. We've seen Micron garbage bin their first iteration of HBM (due release mid-2019). We've also seen nVidia happily spit on their tech partners if they think their stuff is garbage too (TSMC as one example). So, for them both to push forward with GDDR6X. I don't think it can be all that bad.

UwUThatOneGuy

How has Sony not doubled down on its direction to not force customers into their own proprietary ssd bay like Xbox has done it. That's huge when these leaks of 200

UwUThatOneGuy

Dollar plus ssd's are for xbox are true. It's like, do people really want to buy storage from the original brand and not of a huge allready existing market. Why is Sony so quit about it.

Quang Tuyen Pham

Can anyone please summarize all of the Sony exclusives that were hinted? I can't keep up with all of the channels. Thanks.