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RTX 4090 Review Reactions - Die Shrink Telegrams (Patreon)

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2022-10-11 20:08:54
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The RTX 4090 reviews are up - what do you think?

Tonight Tom & Dan will be discussing everything RTX 4090:

Efficiency 

Rasterization Performance

Ray Tracing Performance

Price/Perf

Thermals & Noise Levels

Expectations for how RDNA 3 will stack up...

You don't need to rush out your thoughts - we will record in ~4-6 hours, so feel free to save your thoughts for a bit or for after Tom drops today's video (he's waiting on some feedback from a couple sources before recording.  But also, don't hesitate if you have a question or observation right now!  This is being dropped early in the day so you can all reply below at your best convenience. 

Be concise (seriously, multi-page novels will be ignored, but a few paragraphs is occasionally ok), use good grammar, and be respectful to be considered.

https://youtu.be/aQklDR8nv8U

https://www.techspot.com/review/2544-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090/

https://youtu.be/j9vC9NBL8zo

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_rtx_4090_founder_edition_review,25.html

https://youtu.be/THxkY59_xko

https://youtu.be/60yFji_GKak

https://youtu.be/JLEIJhunaW8

Comments

Eliab Agbavor

Hey tom to be honest with you as impressive as the 4090 is. Seeing RDNA 2 next to it. I am very excited about RDNA3. This architecture look insane and more promising going forward. What are your thoughts. I hope AMD doesn't fumble this chance.

Tyler Wilson

Hey Tom and Dan just wanted to say thanks for all the content. Really interested in the 4090, just waiting for more info for RDNA3. Thanks

Timo H

Hi Dam and Ton, here local shop lists 4090 1999 to 2999 euros, but we are not in mining boom for regular joe gamer to mentally calculate "subsidized gpu cost" from that activity, and also electric, gas, all other living costs are on the rise, so how would you see this pricing fare next 2years of this nvidia generation? Will more AIBs "go under" and say quit to nvidia gpus? Jokingly we could compare AM5 launch to lovelace, as both needs to upgrade whole of your rig(case,psu,cpu,monitor) while ampere worked on "old hardware".

Hristo Kolev

I have the "Mom I don't want to go to sleep" on Christmas eve feeling.

Precision

Hey Tom and Dan, thanks for covering this topic up until now. I had a question relating to it's perf at lower wattage (300-375w). It seems like it doesn't make much of a performance difference in a lot of games, including 4k. Is this due to the 4090 not gaining much from OC, or is it that the gains we're seeing from an OC aren't visible due to some form of cpu limitation?

Prior is the theme 999

Hi Tom and Dan, with the reviews being out it’s clear Nvidia has a good product (like always) so why the 4070 I mean 4080 12 gig move? Surly they know it will compete with higher end RDNA3 tier cards that will most likely smother it in performance at that price range. I’m sure some of it is greed but is Lovelace actually that expensive they have to do this? Even though it would sell more being a good product at a more reasonable price?

Tim K

Hello nerds, It’s safe to say that average performance doesn’t mean jack shit anymore. I mean look at these reviews with huge performance deltas from the worst to the best. I think it matters so much more now to have customers look at their buying decisions based off of what they play or want to play. Average performance reviews don’t mean shit anymore if the gap widens like this. Also my honest reaction to the founders card: “Damn shawty where’d u find this?” EVGA coppin outta here bc they know what’s up. Best, The Top G

shredbird

The performance is genuinely exciting, this is a huge leap from 30 series. RT and high refresh 4k gaming look comfortably in reach (technologically not financially anyway). I have to say the most surprising thing to me is how efficient Lovelace actually is. Der Bauer's review showed his model was able to run at just 300 W losing only 5% of performance. It seems Nvidia could have developed a much cheaper 4090 without trading much and probably would have high praise for efficiency, but daddy Jensen has to win those benchmarks so here we are. Also it's too damn big.

Bob Beerbower

Planning on upgrading from a 2080ti. While the 4090 certainly looks impressive I’m not going to make a move until we know what RDNA 3 can do. If I’m being honest the 2080ti is still holding up well in most of the games I play. MSFS is the only one that’s pushing me to a new gpu

Robert Davidson

What do you think the odds are that AMD will be able compete in rasterization and Ray Tracing as a whole? Something like native 1440p with maxed settings and RT without any upscaling. Is it worth waiting?

Kinihun25

Hey & Dan, I must say I am very impressed with the performance of the 4090, typically around 60 to 70% better than a 3090ti but only in 4k do to engine and cpu limitations in 1440p. And that is the thing about the 4090, that no one should buy this card unless they are willing to build a 4k gaming machine with a 4k high refresh monitor. I point this out because on the last broken silicon you mentioned how the 4090 only has DP 1.4, rendering this card useless for the 1440p 360hz+ monitors coming out next year. Zen 4D and Meteor Lake will come out next year and get ride of bottlenecks in 1440p. AMD should capitalize this by saying the 7900XT is the card for pro gamers and Future monitors? Was Nvidia just being short minded or do you think this is their way to hey people to buy a 4090ti that may only use 600w and no more and only be a few percentages faster than a 4090 but it will have DP 2.0

QuickJumper

I don't think 4090 is very smart product. It seems to me that Nvidia is using brute force instead of trying to push efficiency and leave some overhead. If AMD can get similar performance from less power then long-term AMD will have advantage in future architectures. Nevertheless it's still has impressive performance.

Prior is the theme 999

Hello Tom, RDNA3 actually sounds more exciting to me now, if it’s true that it matches Lovelace in raster but doing that more efficiently and cheaper as your leaks have hinted at, personally I’m more impressed with that. Still impressive what Lovelace has done and it’s great to see good competition. Thanks for the content keep it up 999

Dr Forbin

The 4090 to me illustrates what AMD has brought to the table in pure rasteurized performance. It is enough to cause Jen Sun Huang an aneurysm and create something that isn't 20 to 25 percent better than Ampere but 40 to 65 percent better than 3090ti. Despite the lies of 4 times better at the introduction its nice to see something that isn't an incremental improvement over last gen. Though the price is crazy, Lisa Su and Radeon made Jen Sun, blink.

Brendon O'Connell

Expected benefits - content creators. Rendering times. Timeline performance - "expected". Encoders. OBS especially and Vegas (not that anyone bothers reviewing with Vegas) Again, "expected". As in, "should we even bother considering?" Thank you.

Aiden Maltbie

It's the first 450 watt gpu to warrant 450 watts. Zen 4 and raptor lake now have a reason to exist. And it is so far out of my price range that I can't impulse buy it before RDNA 3 is released. It is good to see NVIDIA looking out for us budget gamers again.

Cleansweep

Hey Tom and Dan, With DerBauer finding the sweet spot in the voltage curve at around 60% of the power limit and only a 5% performance drop, why was Nvidia thinking about cranking up the power limit to 600 watts on the 4090 for? It seems pretty clear that RNDA3 has them spooked, but would that hypothetical 600 watt power limit actually had any performance benefit? Or were they legitimately going to go for framerate numbers at any and all costs, until some sanity prevailed?

infinitevalence

Hey Dom and Tan, I currently have a AM5 5900x with a RX 6750 XT. As a FOSS/Linux user I have little interest in Nvidia. In reality my 5900x is overkill I wanted it for the extra boost clock and the 5800x3d did not exist yet. Now that the cat is out of the bag on vCache I feel like I will best suited with waiting for a 7800x3D, and RX 7700 XT. My question is timing, and pricing. Nvidia is out of their mind with down market prices for the 4070, 4080. Will AMD price in reality? When do we think they will start shipping the 7700 XT? When do we think a vcache 7800x3d might hit the market? Last, DeSano's or 5 Points?

Roy Ackerman

Hi Tom and Dan, Hope all is well… I gotta say that I’m impressed with the 4090’s thermal design (FE), performance and the power transient looks much better than the 3090/3090ti’s. How would you say the 7900XT/7800XT will stack up against the 4090/4080 in RT and in rasterization? I didn’t have an AMD/ATI card since the days of the Radeon 9700 Pro and then the 9800 Pro (we are talking back in 2002) so I would love to get an AMD this time around. Thanks and have a great day!

Mo Abdul

Hi Tom and Dan. Der Baur notes in his review that at a 60% power target, at 270W, the 4090 loses only 5% performance. Are you surprised at how efficient the 4090 is and how hard it is pushed to get that extra little bit of performance . Or do you think this is because the GPU is CPU bottlenecked and that’s why we are seeing this. https://youtu.be/60yFji_GKak?t=990

SaltyInternetPirate

Hey Tom and Dan. I never thought that the big three releasing all their new products could be this boring. We've got the AMD/Intel race going neck-and-neck on the CPU side, and AMD/Nvidia seemingly in the same situation with GPUs, Can you please give me something to look forward to.

Xavbeat03

Salutations Tom and Dan, The 4090 FE pleasantly surprised me, and it came off as a far better product than I thought it would be. It didn't use nearly as much power as I thought it would and is exceptionally well-managed concerning heat dissipation. While it's still costly, I could understand many reasons someone might justify its price. With the 7900xt supposedly launching near the end of this year, I wonder what strategies AMD will use to compete against the 4090. Mainly because any plans to treat the 4090 like a massive power-consuming brick seem off the table. Will increased rasterization performance even matter when It will be bottle-necked by either the CPU or the monitor's refresh rate? Due to a lack of features and brand recognition, AMD can't price its products the same as NVIDIA does. Even with tier-below pricing, I think many people will be disappointed. Maybe zen4 + RDNA3 bundles are the way to go? Overall, because the 4090FE was so good, I'm curious how AMD will attempt to compete and gain market share compared to the last generation.

AI Generated Fish

Good performance, ridiculous pricing. Interesting that it's CPU bottlenecked even at 1440p. I'm sure they'd love performance to be the talking point for the 40 series however, for me it's the terrible value up and down the stack. Hopefully tech channels keep bringing up terrible pricing and ridiculousness of the two "4080's".

Ryzza5

Where are we at with DLSS 3 and latency? I've heard the theories that interpolation is an awful idea, but also heard more positive musings from Digital Foundry the other week. If it does provide a 3x performance jump in supported games, does it really matter which 4000-series card we end up selecting (once the prices make a bit more sense)? i.e. just grab something that play's today's games at your target resolution and refresh rate and then don't worry about new games because DLSS 3 will make it all better

starshepherd

Hi to you both. Looking at the reviews, it seems the power consumption is actually lower in general than what it is with the 3090 Ti. However, I can't shake the feeling that it's because even at 4K, there are many situations where the card is CPU limited. For example, in der8bauer's video where he uses a 12900KS to test BF2042, the 4090 uses just 323W while producing 130 FPS at 4K Ultra. The 3090 Ti uses 443W while drawing 91 FPS. The performance increase is a lower than average 43%. Perhaps there are no CPUs on the market currently that can feed the beast? Or is testing at 5K and 8K not a meme anymore? (edit: doesnt surprise me then, that synthetic benchmark results like time spy are a much bigger improvement over game results)

Luk

How much CPU bound will Lovelace and RDNA 3 be? Would DLSS 3 be a tie breaker here due to CPU limitations?

Sarcastro

Tom and Dan, Happily surprised to see the 4090 not running at 450 watts plus, pedal-to- the-metal between the lights. Since there is the head room while gaming and that mysterious magnetic plate at the back my sources (or is that voices) have told me this port will allow running an Easy-Bake-Oven while under the 500 watt threshold, as the EBO only uses 100 watts. Instead of the 4090 being a lemon (cake) it now makes lemon cakes. The other take-away is the raw raster power for ray tracing. It seems more hopeful in the next release cycle or 4th generation it can be viable to use in the mid range and perhaps low end of the product stacks. DLSS 3.0 my tin foil hat tells me it will slip in subluminal messages and adverts, it's a good thing Nvidia did not go with their first choice, MK-Ultra sampling.

AWS Danny

Hey Tom and Dan! I have to say the RTX 4090 is pretty impressive. Hitting the higher end of your performance estimates and the lower end of your power estimates. Basically a best case scenario all around. Do you still feel confident AMD will be able to deliver a true competitor to this card regardless of price.

Conner Seney

Hi, Tom and Dan. I hope you guys are doing well. I am surprised by the difference in results between reviews/reviewers. The fact that many reviewers did not use Zen 4 to benchmark the 4090 is mildly upsetting to me because Zen 4 is likely going to be paired with 4090s in high-end builds this winter, not to mention the fact that it is the fastest CPU in modern games. Question: Do you think that reviews should primarily be using Zen 4 to test the 4090? I would be interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks, Conner.

10GHz Netburst

Putting aside the fact those "leaks" were obviously fake, if the 4090 was actually 3x as powerful as the 3090, do you think you would have been able to see that in any benchmarks? Or would the gains have been lost due to CPU bottlenecks?