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Discussing the Death of Optane, CXL, and Intel's Future with Dave Eggelston (Patreon)

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2022-10-26 23:52:05
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The next guest on Broken Silicon will see the return of Dave Eggleston! He has been a Product Engineer, VP, and CEO at multiple Semiconductor Companies over the past 40 years...needless to say he will be more than qualified to discuss Intel's upcoming Earnings Report, the Death of Optane, Next Gen Memory, and anything else requested by you all regarding the future of semiconductors!

Questions about memory-related subjects are the most on subject for this episode, but you are all invited to submit whatever you want about AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Apple, ARM, and other companies for this discussion!  Just be concise, use good grammar, and be thoughtful in your questions/comments to be considered!

You have ~16 hours (till 10/27 Afternoon US Central Time) to submit below!

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deggleston/

Previous Episode: https://youtu.be/mCxHcvtpfAk

Comments

Xavbeat03

Will new process nodes developed by Intel, TSMC, and other chip producing manufacturers have an impact on the speed, density, or price of memory chips and are memory chips developed usually developed on a cutting edge node or a trailing one?

Swiggles

Intel it seems to keep steering their ship at the cost of what little Goodwill is involved for some of their most crucial fans and partners to a cost I see at excessive and worrying. How harshly do you think this is going to hurt the growth of Intel as a technology leader in the future and their ability to make revenue in new markets when they have burned so many opportunities back to back.

Falto

Do you guys think pcs could have dedicated super fast io controllers like on the ps5 in next 5 years or so?

Falto

When will we finally need to require an ssd on games and applications? It seems at the moment we still need to cater to hdds so current ssd performance in real world usage isn't what it could potentially be from my understanding.

Cleansweep

Hey Tom and Dave, What would it take for AMD to hit its target of getting CXL from a server exclusive technology to a consumer technology within its 3-5 year forecast? And what would be the most likely stumbling block that could cause AMD to miss that goal?

Robert Davidson

Hello guys. I hope you're both doing well. My question about ram is related to the AMD 7000 CPU lineup and DDR5. I've heard that they take a long time to boot the first time because the motherboard is trying different timings until it finds the tightest timings that boot. Did i hear that wrong? Or does it actually automatically tighten timings? Eliminating the nightmare of ram tuning.

Caleb Hudson

Hey guys! I know this is a bit off topic, but I was wondering what is some advice that you would give to your freshly graduated high school self that wants to get to where you are today. What would you do differently in terms of education and execution? What sparked your curiosity in semiconductors?

Peyton S

Hi Tom and guest, I just watched the Siena video and was wondering if you have heard any discussion of pairing a Zen4 chiplet with a Zen4c chiplet for a 24 core/48 thread machine that is almost like a big.LITTLE architecture or like recent Intel processors? Perhaps even with 3D stacked L3 cache? I wonder if consumers would prefer that over having more big cores?

kjm015

Hello Tom and Dave, Given AMD's power efficiency gains with Zen 4, it seems like they will have a clear advantage in the mobile CPU market this upcoming generation. Do you know of any tricks that Intel can pull to combat AMD on laptop for the foreseeable future?

Max Eliaser

Where are all the W680 boards? These high core count i7s, i9s, and r9s don't make a ton of sense as office or gaming CPUs, but they make a lot of sense for professionals. I would argue these products basically need ECC support to justify their existence. AMD's doing it, and theoretically so is Intel with W680, but there are only about two massively expensive W680 boards you can get and nothing with Raptor Lake support as of yet. What's going on here and can you comment on the politics of ECC more generally?

Gach

Hi Tom and Dave, With Optane gone, what technologies will help storage speeds continue to scale? For example, does flash have a roadmap for speed increases that could saturate PCI 5, 6, and 7, will we continue to rely on DRAM caches, would putting flash physically next to a GPU improve latency and speed?

Chris Rijk

It looks like the HPC market is going all-in on liquid cooling. Would expect the normal server market to follow and if so in what timeframe? Do you think this technology could trickle down to the consumer market any time soon?

Benjamin Cannon

Based on tests from Buildzoid, the 16 Gracemont cores in Raptor Lake seem to be about the same performance as a Ryzen 9 3950X, while drawing more power. What are your thoughts on AMD’s version of efficiency/dense cores with Zen 4C compared to Intel’s separate Gracemont and soon to be Tremont E-core architectures with Meteor Lake? Intel’s E cores seem to be more about die space efficiency than performance per watt efficiency

DeadOfKnight

Optane may be dead, but what of the promise of persistent CPU memory? Is this still happening, and if so, what will be the benefits to end users?

Timo H

Hi Tom Most obvious question, is GDDR7 "just around the corner", ie could be in gpus in 2023 already? Time flies now.

CompressedAIBlocks

Tom and Dave, hope all is well with you. I'd like to hear both of your opinions on PCIe 5. I recently got an LGA1700 platform and the consistent thing I hear "you'll regret when using a PCIe 5 drive because it halves your GPU lanes to 8x". I disagree. For the performance I have now and for being cheaper than what a competing AM5 system is I think it frankly doesn't matter unless we face a huge paradigm shift. From the POV of gaming and game development I do not think in the life of my platform it will be a limiting factor and I just look at PCIe 3 vs 4 as a perfect example of this. Do you guys think that for a majority of people this will even matter? I am sure for an incredibly small niche it will, but I believe it will never be an issue before they do an upgrade. I think it's nice to have, but not a complete deal breaker as some people make it out to be. Thoughts?

cockblockula

I watch a lot of media reports that criticise Global Foundries' decision to not adopt 7nm and EUV technology. In hindsight, do you believe this to be true or was it the right call?

Gwen Farron

Good timezone, Tom and Dave. With the trickle-down nature of hardware advancements, when, if at all, do you think CXL will come to consumer machines? While my understanding is relatively limited, I understand it is a standard meant to make interconnects between parts much more flexible, or "composable". With said limited understanding, I imagine something like this would make things easier for not just chip manufacturers, but consumer/commercial OEMs and motherboard manufacturers as well, allowing for easier tailoring for custom designs and more flexible I/O.