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Well, the 4080 is out...what do you think?  Got any questions for Tom regarding his new RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid?

Tom and Dan will sit down in a few hours to discuss their initial thoughts on the RTX 4080, how RDNA 3 will stack up, and what we think of the 4090 Tom is testing so far.

Feel free to chime in now or after Tom posts his video today - but do note that you only have ~3 hours to respond with your comments and questions below.  For your submission to be considered you must use good grammar, be concise, and be respectful :).

https://www.angstronomics.com/p/amds-rdna-3-graphics

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4090-strix-oc/27.html

https://youtu.be/l6vn6Cpd4Yc

https://youtu.be/0CunGt3cQXc

https://youtu.be/T8lS4v3-Nyg

https://youtu.be/i2_xTUshy94

https://www.techspot.com/review/2569-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080/

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080.c3888

https://twitter.com/mooreslawisdead/status/1592310310953795587

Comments

Crast

The 4080 was exactly the perf we expected. As I see it though, the real issue is with AMD's launch being a whole month away... and likely a low volume launch before Q1, Nvidia knows that they can take the bulk of the holiday sales. Do you think Nvidia after the holiday season will respond to the price differential to the 7900XTX, or will they continue their past behavior of ignoring their price differential to AMD?

Timo H

Hi Tom and Dan, looking back to 3080ti at 1200$ and reaching 95% of 3090 performance, granted it was midcycle card, not launch of gen.... but 4080 would be competitive with 900$ price tag and AIB model having 3080 size cooler. In this market 1200$ is too much despite still 1month no competition for 4080. Do you guys see this optimal card for AIBs to take and tune it for best fit for gamers, cooler size, features and so on, or would they just stick with base models and nicer ones for 4090 like Tom's Suprim liquid?

AI Generated Fish

The 4080 appears to be exactly what it looked like at the announcement: no real generational performance uplift per dollar and just a thinly veiled attempt to push consumers to the 4090 or remaining ampere stock. I hope the value proposition from AMD really hurts Nvidia sales so pricing returns to some semblence of reasonable.

Jen-Hsun Huang, AI is not circular

Our RTX 4080 is a triumph of design, enabling higher performance Than the 3090ti at a lower cost and far lower power. As I have said multiple times on your discord, any problems with the 16-pin adaptor are one-hundred-and-eleventy-percent user error. The 4080 is indisputably the best GPU to buy if you’re to poor to afford a 4090.

kjm015

Hey, Tom and Dan! My initial reaction to the RTX 4080 is disappointment. The price is simply too high. It sits in an awkward space where it is nowhere near as performant as the RTX 4090 above it, but it's also radically more expensive than the Ampere cards that it's meant to replace. I understand that this was an intentional move from Nvidia to push more last generation stock for the holidays, but I think that's it's a misguided effort. No one that I've talked to who's in the market for an RTX 4090 or 4080 wants to settle for any RTX 3000 series card, largely because most of them already have an Ampere card. I think GamersNexus put it best when they said that Nvidia "needs to be kicked in the ass". I hope AMD has enough stock of the upcoming RX 7900 XT and XTX cards to force Nvidia to lower pricing.

Swiggles

Hey Tom and dan. i don't mean to sound dramatic, is this generation of cards the beggining of the begining for the GPU market as we know it?

Xavbeat03

Greetings, Based on what reviewers showed us today, the 4080 was much more efficient than I thought it would be. It also has a similar performance per $ compared to the 4090. This level of performance would've been outstanding at the $800-900 price point. However, this card is $1200. So I'm disappointed with the performance. AMD has a chance to make a good showing here, so assuming they were accurate with their numbers in their 7900xt/x reveal showcase, the 7900xtx should beat the 4080 by 15-20% in raster and get pretty close in raytracing.

AWS Danny

Hey Tom and Dan! Hope you are well! The 4080 looks okay? The power consumption is better than expected but just makes the over-sized coolers look ridiculous. 7900XTX just keeps looking better by the day however AMD recently updated their graphs with actual fps figures for raytracing and it's not great to be honest. fps without fsr(perfomance mode likely) looking in line with a 3090ti. Do you think it's possible the 4080 will hold its price and still sellout on the basis of raytracing and productivity performance alone?

CompressedAIBlocks

Tomley and Danjamin. I think overall the card seems solid but what ruins it is the price. I could see this card giving AMD a real problem if they brought out a 4080 Ti out at $1200 and then dropped this to like $900/1000. Just at $1200 it's a rough sell even with Nvidia software stack and RT advantage.

Chris Rijk

Hi Tom - you can definitely class yourself as a "content creator" so you having a 4090 means we can get videos and other content faster. I'm just wondering though - are you intending to compare it to the 7900 XTX in content creation? If the two are close in performance would you return the 4090?

shredbird

Hey dudes! 4080 is a good performer and really shows how impressively power efficient Lovelace can be. My only contention with it is price/perf and how physically large it is. If they priced it competitively to the Radeon RX 7000 series I would definitely consider it.

Prior is the theme 999

Hi Tom and Dan, my thoughts on the 4080 are simple. Like Tom has said many times before, there’s no such thing as a bad product, just a poorly priced one. Or something to that tune, the funny part is the massive cooler for the TDP it’s drawing. The whole situation sucks to me because the card itself actually performs well considering the power it uses, but everything around it sucks, and those things to me are highlighted more because of the competition.

Chris Rijk

Hi Tom and Dan - if Nvidia decides that 4080 style pricing is the "new normal", do you think the dGPU market could stagnate like the mobile phone market? Or is its pricing likely to be a short term anomaly while Ampere stocks last?

Frank van de Pol

I'm not really impressed price wise but the performance per watt is there. Seems it's quite a balanced card if it had a smaller cooler and would have been like 900 instead of 1200.

Billy Mays

Hello Tom and Dan , the 4080 performs right around where you’d expect. The interesting thing is the power usage, it’s a little lower than I expected as it seems to rarely hit the claimed 320 watt tdp. Which brings me to my question: why didn’t Nvidia reuse the 3080 cooler? Now this already overpriced card will have these behemoth and more expensive coolers that it doesn’t need.

MarkCentral

Hi Tom and Dan, Reviews for the RTX 4080 weren’t that exciting, with performance landing near where people predicted. What I did find noteworthy was that like the 4090, it tended to draw less power with most workloads than its advertised tgp. Another example of a card with an overbuilt cooler. This feels like it could have easily been a 2-slots wide design with a 300watts tgp, and have similar performance.

Samuel Park

How are you liking the 4090 Suprim Liquid so far in terms of thermals and noise? I recently worked to validate two of those in a workstation build offering with a Threadripper Pro and they are really nice cards. In thermal testing, one GPU hit 68 and the other hit 64 and that was along with a 280W CPU and 1 TB of RAM. I run one in my personal rig as well and's super quiet and fantastic. How often are you checking for the burnt connector?

Max Eliaser

Hi T & D, I have no interest in spending this kind of money on a graphics card no matter how good it is, because I simply don't prioritize gaming that amount. From my POV, 40 series may as well not exist for the time being.

Minikoopa

Hi Tom and Dan, What the fuck is going on with reviewers finding a positive “efficiency” spin on the 4080. We have just a moved from a $700 3080 to a $1200 (if you can get it at this price) 4080. They should have been hammered for this.

ZENOEN

Just want to say that every single reviewer/youtuber keeps pointing out that HDMI2.1 and Display port 1.4 was good enough for them. There outright ignoring tons of people plays older games where hitting 4K 120+hrz at 12 bit rate color and without video signal compression would be preferable. The fact that Nvidia doesn't have even Display port 2.0 means that New features made to take advantage of things like High-quality HDR and 12bit color on New displays coming to market will not be useable by these cards and it is a great loss.

Lex Sanders

Hi, why doesn't anyone use the full name of the acronym RDNA? It's Radeon Deoxyribonucleic Acid 3. Silly names should be pointed out just how silly they are.

Athena Azuraea

I just don't see the point of that. I personally don't see a point of gaming beyond 60 Hz, and you won't notice the difference of 12-bit color depth. 120 Hz is nice for desktop use. I haven't tested anything beyond that, though. So yeah, HDMI 2.1 is more than good enough in my opinion.