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Looking Back at 2022 /// Looking Forward to 2023 - Telegrams for Guests (Patreon)

Published:
2022-12-15 23:14:01
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2022-12-16 06:24:41
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It's hard to believe that 2022 is already coming to an end, but it is! Correspondingly, we will once again be doing an end-of-year series that looks back at the releases and rumors of 2022, and also towards the releases and expected rumors of 2023!

Once again Dawid Does Tech Stuff will join us for one episode, and there will be three episodes in total:

Wrapping up this week's news, and looking back at early 2022 w/ Dan

Looking back at 2022, and looking forward to the beginning of 2023 w/ Dawid

Looking forward to all of 2023 and beyond w/ Dan

Thus we encourage multiple questions (submitted separately!), and for you to decide if you are addressing Dan, Tom, and/or Dawid (or no one specific at all!).  We will pull from this massive trove of "Telegrams" below for all three episodes.

Of course you are free to mention ANYTHING from 2022 or coming in 2023, but here are the subjects we thought of immediately:

2022

Rembrandt

Alder Lake Mobile

RTX 3080 12GB

RX 6500 XT

RTX 3050 Desktop

RTX 3090 Ti

RX 6950 XT, 6750 XT, 6650 XT

RX 6700 10GB

R7 5800 X3D

ARC Rumors always pointing to a close release

Lovelace and RDNA 3 Rumors getting out of Control

Lovelace 850-1000w Rumors - They were never Close to True

MLID N4X Analysis Video perfectly pegged Lovelace Performance

RDNA 3 Rumors 

MI300 Leak

Fishhawk Falls Rumors

Zen 4 “Greater than 15%” debacle

Ampere Oversupply and Pricing Crash

A780 Cancellation, Alchemist Launching Q4, and ARC's Cancellation

Zen 4 X3D Leaks from MLID

Zen 4 Launch

Raptor Lake Launch

Zen 4c Leak

RTX 4090 Launch

RTX 4080 12GB Unlaunch

RTX 4080 Launch

Melting 16-Pin 12VHPWR Controversy 

DLSS 3

RX 7900 XTX & RX 7900 XT Launch

2023

RTX 4070 Ti

Phoenix

Dragon Range

Raptor Lake Mobile

i9-13900KS

Lovelace in Laptops

Zen 4 X3D

Navi 32 & 33

RTX 4060, Remaining AD106 and AD107 Products

Intel Fishhawk Falls Workstation

AMD FSR 3 Fluid Motion

Raptor Lake Refresh

AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

ARC’s Future

PS5 Slim

PS5 Pro

XBOX Refreshes

Nintendo Switch 2

RDNA 3+ (?)

Intel Meteor Lake

Battlemage (?)

Blackwell

Zen 5

RDNA 4

^Please look at this list when considering your submissions below, and again - feel free to submit multiple submissions! Just make sure you use good grammar and are as concise as possible to be considered!

You have ~24 Hours (till Early Friday Evening US Central Time) to submit safely, and most likely you have about 36 Hours from now to submit (especially if your questions involves subjects in late 2023). Full discloser - we are recording these in order over the next 48 hours :).

In other words, take your time - but take less time if you want to talk about something from early 2022, and make sure you have your questions out by tomorrow afternoon if you want to be 100% sure they are received on-time. Oh, and stay tuned for a Die Shrink Telegrams tomorrow as well!

Dawid's Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DawidDoesTechStuff

Dawid 2021: https://youtu.be/b8gVyjvSZkg

Dawid 2020: https://youtu.be/TlvIiHk3lSs

Dawid 2019: https://youtu.be/USSx-qHwWzI

Comments

Kinihun25

Hey Tom and Dan, seen some professional reviews on the 7900XTX for creators and I have to admit I came back impressed, as someone who creates Video Game Characters and Animations for companies the 7900XTX has became a card that peaks my interests. Hopefully AMD will start producing more 7900xtx than the 7900XT.

Swiggles

Hey Tom and Dawid, would you guys have ever have expected this year to go like this. we all thought that there was going to be some sort of crash eventually but the beginning of this year started with some of the highest GPU prices we've ever seen and by the end of the year I'm getting a RTX 3090 steal for $600!

3dsboy08

Hey Tom and Dan, recently there has been some speculation on higher-core count Zen 4 X3D options. Has AMD committed to any of these products being announced/existing or are they planning on holding off on what would be a 7950X3D? Thanks, and happy holidays!

Kinihun25

Hey Tom and Dan, me again I want to talk about how the 7900XT is now coming back in stock and staying in stock. It seems AMD's strategy to flood the market with 7900XTs is back firing which I have to say I am happy for, the price needs to drop.

Chris Rijk

Now that AM4 has basically reached the end of the line, how would you rate the AM4 platform compared to all other platforms?

Chris Rijk

My old laptop is slowly dying so for 2023, the potential product I'm looking forwards to the most is Dragon Range-X. The 5800X3D was like Zen 4 coming early and the X3D versions of Zen 4 will be like Zen 5 coming early, at least for games, and I think they'll be particularly potent in laptops. Assuming it has a reasonable price, can anything beat it in 2023?

CompressedAIBlocks

Hello Tom and Dan, kind of open ended question but how do you guys feel about the CPU and GPU market going into 2023? Do we finally have competition from all vendors? Cheers

Jordan Simkovic

Hey Tom and Dawid! What are your expectations for RDNA3 and Lovelace laptop at this point? I have to say, seeing RDNA3's lack of efficiency, my hopes are pretty dashed for any major improvements on AMD's end. So even if Lovelace is a nice performance bump per SKU in laptop, I expect the pricing is going to blow. Is there any hope for laptop next year?

AI Generated Fish

What's going on with GPU releases? It's like the only "sane" decision was a $1600 4090. First we get a $1200 4080 which, predictably, no one bought. Then we have AMD lying about performance to try to push what should have been a 7800xt for $1000 and putting volume into a $899 card no one wants. The other $899 card that was so bad it was "unlaunched" appears to be returning exactly as it was, just renamed 3070ti, at a probably only slightly less terrible price. Did the mining boom make both AMD & Nvidia throw any market research they did pricing ampere & rDNA 2 in the trash? Thankfully, at least consumers don't appear to be falling for it but can you make any sense of these decisions?

A few cheeky memes

Hi T and D and D, I've seen your content on navi 33 (the 7600xt) being (best case) an 6800 in 1080p( and likely a 6750xt in higher resolutions?). Throughout all of 2022 my number 1 recommended GPU was the rx 6600 . What do you expect out of performance and pricing for an rx 7600 non-xt? Merry early christmas!!

A few cheeky memes

Hi folks, zen 4 seemed to take some flak for not increasing core counts over last gen, would you expect that core counts remain the same for zen 5 cpus? Or do you think they may increase (for example) the r5 to 8 core, the r7 to 10/12 core, etc... Love your work!

Aluveitie

Hi all, Intel released their Ice Lake Xeon D lineup in February. There were some reviews of the new Xeon D products from STH and others, but there hasn’t been anything publicly released or mentioned ever since. It just seems as Intel silently cancelled the complete line up, do you have any info or insight regarding that? Or anything regarding AMDs embedded Epyc line?

Timo H

Hi Tom, how do you see amd's next models in rdna3? rdna2 stock could totally vanish by february-march, which makes current XT price drops possible (would not hit XTX sales or rdna2 sales). Do you expect Lisa Su announce/tease new SKU in CES january and start this train rolling? I wouldnt think it is amd's benefit to let XT's sit in shelves.

Timo H

Hi Tom,Dan and Dawid, question of cpu, possibly gpu perf "creep" now that consoles are old enough and new gens in pc are coming out. Could we see games demanding at least rdna2/ampere gpus and highend zen3 in this year games for pc? Some games already put cpus in tough spot, granted settings are tuned to max. This seems cat n mouse play in pc, that as time is (developer)money, as average pc specs go up, devs just optimize less in newer games. Callisto protocol seems quite typical pc game, consoles are priority and takes several weeks until pc version bugs are ironed out(some comical level low fruits).

FREUDIAN NIP SLIP

Hi Tom and DanDaddy, I can't recall you ever mentioning it, but what phones do you have and why did you pick them? For the first time since the iPhone 4, this year I owned an iPhone, the iPhone 14 Pro Max. I lasted about two weeks before I switched back to android, the Pixel 7 Pro. I didn't understand how much I used google assistant until it was gone. Anyways, enjoy your well deserved holiday break, great work this year, I always felt like I was ahead of the tech news cycle after listening to your show. Love from Toronto, stay greasy.

AdanFS

Quick Impressions: Favorite Launch of 2022: I guess 5800x3d but only after it got cheaper, does rdna 2 getting cheap count? Least favorite launch of 2022: 3060 8GB, not much needs to be said Launch that most interests me in 2023: Kinda a tie between Fishhawk Falls and n33. Mostly out of curiosity. Launch that least interests me in 2023: Low end lovelace, I already know they will be too expensive or have low VRAM or both.

Prior is the theme 999

Hello Tom and cohost, I didn’t really have a favorite product of the year but instead had a favorite time of the year, Q4 2022 was a blast, pc parts where incredibly cheap almost like they were just giving me 6600’s at one point. Built a few builds with good performance for around $550 dollars. The best part was when these companies greed finally caught up to them with the oversupply. I’m only excited for phoenix and zen 5 in 2023. Any news on zen 5 and a general number of core count? Is it double per SKU or should we expect it to be less or more? Thanks for the great year of content looking forward to another!

Prior is the theme 999

Hello Tom and Dan, someone called Dan “DanDaddy” in the replies and I’ve been laughing about it since. Anyways my question is what are you’re opinions on the longevity of PCGaming, you discussed with Jim previously and both seemed to agree that the mid ranged has essentially received a permanent price bump along with many other tiers with it. In the last two years we saw great growth with the community but companies have ruined any chance of further growth. Thankfully because of the cheap supply recently I’ve been able to get many friends and family in. But going forward with consoles in stock and deals drying up along with rising gpu prices, from my position just get a ps5 play god of war at 1440p high fps and you’ll enjoy yourself, connect a mouse and keyboard and play cod at 120fps. I only asked this question because I wanted to point out someone called Dan “DanDaddy”, if it’s poorly worded sorry, and thanks for the content.

Sarcastro

Hi Tom and Dan, One item for looking forward for the MLD channel would be game reviews. Not just what are you waiting for, what is eating up any free time, but actual game reviews. The two of you seem to enjoy first person shooters and do some familial bonding so there is a new game that would be puuuuurrrfect for the channels first game review. A first person shooter, brand new to the market and yet to be reviewed by LTT or included in benchmarks by Harbor Onbox, I am of course speaking of Fury Arena released on December 1st. For some reason Steam said "Hey, Sarcastro, you played Cyberpunk, we think you'd like this." so, just passing the kindness forward, fellas.

cockblockula

Do you think high end RDNA 3 mobile have an answer to 4090 and 4080 mobile? I think this is the first time a 90 class card is released for laptops which makes me think they might be overestimating RDNA 3 (at least for the high end).

Brian Steiner

Hi, Tom, Dan and Dawid this question is for Dawid. When you start testing a pre built do you wear your nitrile gloves prior to removing the bloatware (STD's)? Also, are you going to do more serious testing this year, or more "watch at a safe distance but don't try this configuration at home" type content?

Sarcastro

Dawid, you spent some time living in Japan, did you get to experience any gamer culture while living there? And, what are some differences between Canadian/USA gaming culture vs. Japan?

John Easterling

Hi Tom and Dan. As someone who got into mining with the 6000 series and 30 series. It kind of makes me wonder why people hate miners so much because when they go bust and have to sell all their stuff, there's great deals to be had secondhand. I know short term they drive up prices but maybe that's OK if miners get the expensive new toy first and subsidize the next gen by overpaying. I know Tom used to mine a bit; what are your thoughts? Am I off base?

Crast

(silly) Dawid, I noticed you recently changed how you pronounce the word "thirty" in your videos to a more Western pronunciation. I liked the South African pronunciation, and I hope that the random people in youtube comments are not bullying/shaming you into changing your style. I think the Dawid-isms like "back alley knife battle", "3060 scumbag edition", "loser nitro suckface" are hilarious and one of my favorite parts of watching your channel. Keep being you!

Earth Taurus

Hi Tom, Dan, Dawid this is I suppose more of discussive question about Zen 4. Did AMD mess up by trying to maintain cooler compatiblity with AM5? As surely there is additional material cost in increasing the IHS thickness to maintain cooler compatiblity? Lastly, should AMD revert back to the previous thermal behaviour of the CPU heat increases as power pulled increases? I ask, as I recently built an AM5 rig x670E crosshair and 7950X during the blackfriday deals - bought on monthly payments. On eco mode in R23 the 7950X hits around 34000 ~ 33500 points (all core at 4.5 Mhz) whilst taking about 133 watts. Default is 38000 ~ 37000 with the thermal wall being hit (pbo tune hits 5~ ghz all core - 38000~ consistently but there are vcore spikes over 1.4 volts with package power over 200 watts). Overclocked regardless if it is 5 or 5.3 ghz temps hit above 100 degrees c due to the design of hitting thermals first. Cooler is Artic Liquid Freezer 2 360 in a H500M. There is one thing to note for all, the LF2 cooler will not fit without being mounted offset away from the x670E due to the height of the heatsinks. I have had to mount one fan ontop of the case as there is a clearance issue by a few mm due to the I/O shield.

Earth Taurus

Damn, sneeze. Thanks for the great content all :).

Earth Taurus

Oh i forgot to add, on eco mode temps never go above 60 degrees on the CPU.