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Hardware Unboxed joins to discuss Zen 4 X3D, Raptor Refresh, RDNA 3, and Lovelace [Guest Telegrams] (Patreon)

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2023-03-20 18:31:39
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Broken Silicon's next guest will be Steve from Hardware Unboxed!  We are currently planning to at least discuss:

Zen 4 X3D

Raptor Lake Refresh

What we think of RDNA 3 and Lovelace Performance & Pricing so Far

How RDNA 3 vs Lovelace competition will evolve through 2023

DLSS 3 vs FSR 3

The state of Intel ARC

Hopes for RDNA 4, Zen 5, Meteor Lake, Arrow Lake, and other future products

Whatever else you all ask about!

Steve is of course capable of discussing anything remotely related to gaming hardware, and additionally it's been a long time since he's come on Broken Silicon - so this episode has MANY topics we can cover regarding things that have happened in the past 12 months, and also that we expect to happen in the next 12 months. Don't hold back, ask away about anything!

NOTE: We will be recording this episode after the Nvidia GTC Keynote on 3/21/23 to ensure we don't miss any announcements. That of course means this episode will be coming out a day late...and that also means that you can choose to submit questions immediately...or submit them quickly after the Keynote show.  Either way you have ~24 hours to submit questions below.  Be sure to use good grammar, be as concise as possible, and be respectful to have your submission considered for the show.

HUB YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Hardwareunboxed

Last time Steve was on: https://youtu.be/LyLg-r5ZTWc

Last time Tim was on: https://youtu.be/fLslDE27XxY

Last time all of HUB was on: https://youtu.be/0DleBSV_-2c

Nvidia GTC Keynote: https://youtu.be/DiGB5uAYKAg

Comments

Kinihun25

Hey Tom, Tim, and Steve what are you thoughts on the Raptor Lake refresh. After seeing Tom's leak about it I am interested especially since I have a 13700K. If Intel is about to give 10 - 15% extra Multithreading performance and maybe 8-10% more gaming performance at a 15-25% lower TDP do you think that is a worthy upgrade until Meteor Lake or Arrow Lake is ready? Thanks for everything.

Kinihun25

Hey Everyone, do you think if AMD drops the 7900 XT to $700 do you think it will fly off shelves? Since is it on average 25% better than a 3080, with double the VRAM and better Ray tracing performance for the same price.

Prior is the theme 999

Hello Tom and Steve, after HUB's 50 game benchmark test between the 70ti and xt. Personally, it made me appreciate the xt more especially now that its dropping in price. I've noticed in a PC group I'm in that a lot of people are buying the xt in noticeable amounts and posting builds of it. Is this trend similar to what you are hearing for amd's stock situation now that the price of the card is dropping? And what price do you think it would need to be to become an out of stock item like the XTX.

Prior is the theme 999

What are your thoughts on a $750 4070? It's clear now if it comes to fruition that Nvidia does not want to adjust their pricing. How well do you expect it to sell? And what does it mean for cards even lower down the stack. I cant imagine many people who shop at the $300 - $500 be eager to buy a 4060 for $500.

Brad Corrupts

Tech Jesus is from GamersNexus, not Hardware Unboxed.

CRCV

Hello everyone, I like both of your channels, so I will ask a "youtube" question for both of you. Skip it if you find it anoying. There has been quite a lot of tech channels that started to get in trouble recently. Does it scares you? Or do you think patreon and the rest of the community somehow shield you guys from changes in the algorithm? Best of luck, and take care.

CRCV

Frame generation question: There has been discussion of how good DLSS3 might be for Diablo, notably due to the isometric view. In your opinion, is there any genre other than fast pacing FPS or racing game where frame generation might be a problem? Or is it more an issue of implementation?

CRCV

Final question (on future architecture): There has been more and more rumors about hybrid architectures for zen 5 recently (and previously by MLID if I recall correctly). Do you think there will be any issues with scheduling for AMD, or do you think Intel managed to take one for the team and improve everyone’s future by releasing big.LITTLE in 2022?

Shryquill

Gidday Steve and Tom! Considering the state of the GPU market and how demanding the new games being developed actually are, what aspects do you think the RTX5000 and RX8000 series need to focus on to sell units? E.g. More power, more efficiency, more features/gimmicks, more value?

Keith Moore

Have the RDNA 3 driver updates so far in your opinion been what you would have expected as far as performance improvements given the time the cards have been out? Are you still optimistic about 10-20% performance improvements through drivers?

MelodicArmor

Hi Steve. I currently own the Odyssey Neo G8 (The 4K 240Hz one). I got it as a still factory sealed open box for only $990. I have been daily driving it on my RX 6800 XT now for almost 4 months. Ever since I started to use it, I have found that it really does like my monitor alot. Have you found in your testing if Radeon cards play better with certain brands or it is just a case-by-case basis? P.S. - Gaming on this at 4K and HDR 1000 has officially made me believer in HDR! :)

Dr Forbin

I'm a Patreon of both channels so hopefully this question isn't the same old thing. NVidia has a stranglehold on the GPU market, they set the pace and pricing. Many creators though they despise the way they use their market leadership to crush competition and raise pricing, personally own its products and endorse them over all of its competition. I do not subscribe to the belief that Intel or Radeon could ever cause a paradigm shift in the GPU arena. What would make NVidia change its evil ways?

Enilyks (Mike)

Hi Guys, I would like to know your thoughts on memory speeds and stability of AMD vs Intel. AMD seems to targets one speed to tune around and intel leaves the doors open to what ever people want to throw at it.

Woody Chang

Hi Tom and Steve, In regards to ARC, what do you think Battlemage needs to be able to achieve to convince Pat Gelsinger to keep the life support on? Assuming that all Intel can do are Battlemage iGPU tiles/low-end DG3 and drivers weren't an issue (sigh), is there a minimum performance class or feature set that you think ARC needs to earn a stay of execution?

10GHz Netburst

As non-monitor-reviewers, what are your impressions so far on the offering of OLED PC displays? Any of them really strike your interest yet? Why, why not?

10GHz Netburst

What do your friends think of the current GPU market situation? Do you think it is putting a damper on the interest in PC gaming as a whole?

FloridaMan

What would be the challenges involved in benchmarking VR on PC? I don't really see anyone attempt it, and I couldn't say which GPU or CPU vendor works with VR better, but would like to know

10GHz Netburst

While the performance and efficiency of RDNA3 has been underwhelming, do you think that AMD is still making improvements as far as making their product more and more polished?

PCDog

Hey Tom and Steve! What are your favorite topics to make videos on for your respective channels? (e.g. GPU reviews, leaks, etc.)

10GHz Netburst

Are you disappointed with the gains from memory overclocking on DDR5? Did you expect better or worse?

Trogdor

Hi Steve, big fan of the channel. I really appreciate all the time and thought you put into producing the best data out there. What are your thoughts on other channels becoming more normative in their testing methods? Fewer games and configurations tested, more emphasis on "how the gaming experience feels", data that can't properly be replicated by you or other empirical reviewers, etc? As a consumer it's very frustrating to see bad testing, but what's your opinion as a reviewer?

Clint Hoffman

Hi Steve! What are your thoughts on the whole adding fake frames to games to make them "smoother"? Wouldn't it be better to just use that extra GPU power to actually draw the frames given? I find it really odd that a company would use silicon to make something the GPU should be doing. The only reason I can see them going this route is to find ways to justify their tensor cores that actually take up die space.

Jake_ Dude_23

The workers seizing the means of production! We need commu - uh, I mean super capitalist - NVIDIA.

kjm015

Hello Tom and Steve, With 4K high refresh rate displays consistently dropping in price over the past year or two, the cost of entry for 4K gaming is getting lower and lower. Do you think there will be a large increase in adoption of 4K displays among gamers like what we saw with 1440p displays? If so, how soon do you think this will happen?

Brad Corrupts

Hello. Concerning the x3D chips, do you think the next iteration of 3D V-Cache will use dynamic cache system that can be turned off and on dynamically? That way, you would have no compromises and you can have cache on both CCDs.

Gach

Hi Tom and Steve, DLSS, FSR, VRS, and frame interpolation are in their own ways trying to do more with less work. Do reviewers need to start labeling benchmarks with the percent of pixels actually rendered? Or is the rendering pipeline of modern games more complex than that?

Tim K

Surprise! Nvidia announced the RTX 4000 Ada SFF Workstation GPU! It comes equipped with a 6144 CUDA core die that specs at around 19 TF32 compute, 20 GB of GDDR6 all in a small RTX A2000 styled cooler delivering at just 70 W of power. Caviat: it’s $1250 individual pricing. Bulk pricing of course will be different. It’s about a RTX 3070 in performance just by going off in TFLOP compute. The RTX A2000 last gen was in between a 3050 and 3060 in performance at 70W. Thoughts?

Richard Yao

Will Intel implement its own VSR? Also, when will we have it on Linux?

Richard Yao

With the exception of the 82574L, Intel wired Ethernet NICs used to be the gold standard. However, the I226/I225 seem to be a disaster. Could you say what happened to cause their quality to go downhill?

AI Generated Fish

Good afternoon Tom and Steve, although I'm not expecting a pricing announcement on the 4070, $750 (or even $700) sounds historically bad. How would you reset pricing on the Lovelace lineup to make sense to consumers? Not expecting ampere launch levels of value (3060, 3070, & 3080 all would have been excellent values had they been around at MSRP), but something that makes sense?

Richard Yao

Why do tech YouTubers not do more RISC-V and AARCH64 content?

Chris Rijk

Hi Steve, ignoring special modes like DLSS and FSR, are games becoming any easier to benchmark? What would you like game developers to do in order to make benchmarking better? What about non game benchmarks?

Richard Yao

I remember when people went ballistic whenever nvidia was caught cheating by replacing a shader with a cheaper version in their driver. Knowing this, I would have expected outrage over DLSS , but instead, we have AMD and Intel trying to implement their own alternatives. What changed?

Kinihun25

Hey Everyone what is your thoughts on Raja Koduri leaving Intel? Hope this question got in on time.

Nicolas Terroir

Hello Tom and Steve, do you think is it more important to play in 4k at 30fps or at 1440p at 120fps? Do you think gaming at 4k at 120fps is possible in the next 5 years? Right now, for me, the difference between 1440p and 4k is minimal.

Nicolas Terroir

When do you think you need to update your pc and especially your gpu? Is it better to buy an high end gpu and keeping longer than buying a mid tier gpu and changing it often?

Dr Forbin

I an a capitalist but market manipulated prices are abhorrent.

Bogdan Moisuc

Hi Tom and Steve, great to hear you chatting again! One thing that went a bit undiscussed this GPU generation was the fact that AMD pulled an Nvidia by implementing double purpose compute units (int and float) and Nvidia pulled an AMD by implementing a large cache with narrower memory buses. Do you think it might be interesting to have a comparative analysis between the respective implementations? For instance, I remember that we were disappointed with the Nvidia performance uplift vs the theoretical expected performance. There seems to be a similar issue this generation with AMD. Any interest in doing a comparative analysis, any thoughts on the problem? Thanks in advance!