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MAIN FEED DISCUSSION - Bend It Like Beckham (Patreon)

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2024-12-02 17:00:17
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Everyone say "thank you, Priyanka!" Any favorite sports movies, fam? Favorites of Indian cinema?

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Andy Germuga

Chris is definitely thinking of Hit Clips not sure if Joe is also. I had a Hit Clips alarm clock that I used to torture my brother with my Hit Clip of Faith Hill’s Breathe early in the morning.

Jenny Maurer

I really need to watch her blinded by the light movie - as a millenial who got into Springsteen during high school, I really emphasized with the trailer

Mark C

Mel B hasn't said anything problematic as far as I'm aware - I feel what I know of her recent stuff is her money issues (she went bankrupt) and also her work for survivors of domestic abuse, and sharing her own experiences - so you're safe to have her up in your favourite spice girls!

Willoughby B. Dobbs IV

We're you thinking of HitClips, Joe? I had a few of those with NSYNC and Britney

Lance Hunter

During the Rodney Dangerfield IMDB game, When Chris said “speaking of Goodfellas, second billed in this movie…” I was expecting him to say “… is cocaine!”

Joe Reid

I was thinking of Pocket Rockers.

Frank McCormick

I feel like Joe intoning the words "Kazaa culture" should have opened a portal to a Tron-like early 00s Internet realm. Or given us all viruses.

Sam Hetherington

Great episode! Resident British person here to clarify some of the things that came up that stumped Joe and Chris: - Typically, in England you finish secondary school at 16, then go to college or sixth form which you finish at 18. The next step is university. - We meet Jess in the summer between finishing college and starting uni. She is 18 and waiting for her exam results to know whether she got the grades she needs to get in. - Jess and Jules play for an amateur team that has nothing to do with school. Sometimes these teams have 16/17year-olds, but since everyone’s going to Germany without parents I’d say that everyone is 18+ - It’s legal to drink at 18 in the UK (and Germany) so nothing illegal is happening at the club At the time I don’t think the coach’s behaviour read as problematic since everyone is over 18, but looking back now it certainly reads as skeezy given his position as an authority figure.

Hannah Nutt

I am like, 15 minutes into the episode and I just have to say that I am shocked by the assertion that "Sporty wasn't anyone's favorite." Excuse you, some of us were middle school lesbians

Rob

Worth noting that that isn’t David Actual Beckham doing the odd cameo (which is probably why it’s odd) but Andy Harmer who got quite a lot of work as a lookalike. And personally: 1) Ginger, 2) Baby, 3) Scary, 4) Posh, 5) Sporty. (“I Turn To You” is a foreverbanger, but her voice is still like nails on a blackboard to me.)

Chrissy

Thank you Priyanka! What a rich episode. Also, I had to laugh at the unhinged chapter titles of this episode on Spotify.

Chauncey Telese

The bit in scary movie where Bobby and Cindy argue and it ends up about Ginger leaving the Spice Girls always kills me

Cethan Leahy

It's hard to understate how big an impact "but Jess, I'm Irish" has had as a meme on this side of the world.

Aditya Bhagirath

Great episode– thank you, Priyanka (and, of course, Chris, and Joe)! Concerning the conversation you had about Indian films and their overall reception in the West, I found the point about Hollywood perhaps not finding it necessary to reward them at the Oscars to be a really fascinating one. While I am certainly not an expert on Indian films, I would probably go a step further and say that I haven’t noticed Western film industries and film circles really approaching or discussing Indian cinema in meaningful ways. A lot of them seem pretty content with having a static view of India as merely an incredibly diverse country without taking the time to understand the specific styles of the various regional industries (which would require them to make a concentrated effort to find out more about the histories of those states and of the country and subcontinent’s arts and politics). I'm not saying everyone needs to become an expert on Indian politics and history overnight, but it would be nice for more critics to engage with them past the surface. I thought the crossover success of RRR would maybe mark a change in that people would become more interested in how mainstream Telugu cinema is different from mainstream Hindi cinema (and from Tamil, Malayalam, Bengali etc.), but most of the discourse surrounding that film seemed, to me, limited to the increasingly tiresome refrain of “Don’t those Indians just make the CRAZIEST movies?”, which ultimately drowned out any discussion, positive and negative, of that movie’s form, style, and politics made by Indians (also for what it’s worth, it’s not even S.S. Rajamouli’s best work– I would recommend checking out MAGADHEERA for a sweeping romantic epic and EEGA for a thrilling action film). Though at least here in Canada, smaller theatres outside of Cineplex have definitely started screening more mainstream Indian films post-RRR, which has been a very welcome change. As for arthouse films like ALL WE IMAGINE AS LIGHT, strangely enough I think they have a somewhat better shot with Western audiences and critics because they can at least have festival runs where they discuss common cinematic influences that Western cinephiles would have a history with (this is not to agree in any way with the Indian film board’s comment on the film not being Indian enough– on the contrary, Payal Kapadia’s films are, in form and theme, deeply entrenched in and animated by a sharp and clear-eyed understanding of the country’s society and politics as well as influenced by Indian and international arthouse auteurs). I’m excited for the film’s awards run and am rooting for Kapadia to get a Best Director nomination! Lastly (and my apologies for going far too long here), if folks are looking for recs for Indian cinema to pair with BEND IT LIKE BECKHAM: in addition to LAGAAN, CHAK DE INDIA is another beloved Bollywood sports movie and is about the Indian women’s hockey team starring Shah Rukh Khan as the coach (I would say this comes closest to an Indian equivalent of A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN). JHUND is also a great sports movie from a few years ago starring Amitabh Bachchan as a retired football coach who gathers the kids in his local area and turns them into a football team. I will stop now because this comment has become way longer than it has any right to be, but if anyone wants more recs, I’m happy to provide :) thanks again to Chris and Joe for a really fun episode!

Faith Hicks

I don't know why Chris saying "I like watching people fight" made me laugh so hard but it sure did.

Brandon Skidmore

With newer technology do teens still put posters of their favorite celebrities on their walls? I’m not going to encourage it otherwise my daughter will have JellyRoll all over her room but I was curious if the teens are still doing that.

Laura

I feel like I’ve got a unique perspective as someone from an English territory outside UK (not US) who experienced this film as a young woman. I made notes during the podcast! - How did you pronounce Bowie? - Soccer : football - Would be great to get guests on podcasts that are from the country / religion covered - Indian film isn’t recognised in western media because racism - that’s pretty obvious to me. Academy awards are predominantly US or U.K. in the main categories - do you have any stats? - The Jules dynamic - you mentioned it didn’t feel natural but honestly the competitiveness of female friendship is fundamental, having a prettier friend and I think they captured it well - Boring trope of Hysteric mother, absent father is very old fashioned but of its time.

Sharmini Kumar

Thanks Priyanka and (Joe and Chris) - this movie was similarly formative for me. I hadn’t seen anything like it either. I remember my desi friends recommending it to me and resisting because I didn’t believe it would really speak to me … I was wrong, and the film sparked my adult love of film and storytelling (even though I completely recognise its flaws). A couple of things: i agree that the romance is redundant from a story point of view but bear in mind we hadn’t seen a whole lot of interracial relationships onscreen at that point - certainly not desi-white ones. (And Gurinder Chadha is married to an American of mixed race - these kinds of relationships come up a lot in her films: bride and prejudice, viceroy’s house, Beecham house). Also her dad played cricket, not soccer … it’s sort of like baseball but longer and in straight lines rather than diamonds.