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shane is now solidly my poor little meow meow I love him so much

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FroggyMuds

I'm so insane about this show about to go read the book bc I'm too impatient

lauren

over the 2 years they were texting, they were not meeting up. in the books they dont go as long without seeing each other but the author/writer of the show confirmed they went 2 years not hooking up.

lauren

shane.....my shayla 😭😭😭 the bathroom scene....the look on his face....GOD. ilya please let your walls down and let him in.......u know u want to.....even the fact it seems ilya is less interested in casual hookups now (ie. with sasha)......interesting.... in the book and show we see the vegas scenes from shane's pov but the author also wrote it from ilya's pov so we get an idea of what's going through his head that night too...it's on her blog if you/others might be interested! https://www.rachelreidwrites.com/news/2024/3/24

ondraya

You're so real...I love Shane so bad, I haven't felt this way about a male character since Louis de Pointe du Lac...that's pookie :((( I want both Shane and Ilya to be happy, but its not that easy and simple for them. But it could beeeeee 😭 Ilya is definitely Lestat coded (and Shane is a bit Louis coded) which only makes me feel for his struggle more because I just KNOW there's a lot going on in that noggin. Can't wait for episode 3!

Becca Grace

"We didn't even kiss" truly had me on the floor bc I had been so distracted by the choreography of the insane smut scene that I didn't even notice, and then I was like DEAR GOD. Also please look at some of Connor (Ilya's) instagram posts from older photoshoots because he used to have long hair and a nipple piercing and was SO LESTAT.

bella

"We didn't even kiss" - I'm DISTRAUGHT SHANE MY SHAYLA FRRRRR I must say tho whilst I couldn't agree more with all your takes from Shane's POV and I really do empathise sososo much with how he must feel, I also think it's easy to gloss over just how bad a situation Ilya is in (and I'm not someone who's read the book so just going off what we've been shown so far). Like, homophobia in Russia is a violent existential threat! then there's also the whole situation with his family, plus all the other hockey-related stressors that both him and Shane are experiencing too. Not to mention it seems to me like emotionally Ilya is in many ways just as naive and innocent as Shane, it doesn't look like Ilya has ever had a true romantic connection with another person before which must be scary and so idk I really empathise with him just struggling to navigate everything :((( And I say this with utmost love and respect for Shane bc that's my lil autistic meow meow fr but Shane really cannot read the fucking room sometimes. Like just bc Ilya doesn't literally say "my home life is super fucked up" doesn't mean he's not communicating it, he very visibly signals shutting down every time it gets brought up but for YEARS Shane continues being like "hey isn't being with family great 😀 u must love to visit home 😀" so it's understandable that Ilya reacts by pulling away. ofc I don't blame Shane for this but overall it feels like he's a lil oblivious to some of the harsh realities of their relationship/Ilya's circumstances and only focusing on his feeling rejected in the context of their secret fleeting hook ups, but he's not really offering Ilya anything more either bc the hook ups ultimately suit his tragically closeted circumstances very conveniently as well..... whereas I feel like Ilya sees the bigger picture a bit more and that's what's making him hold back, which is perceived by Shane as hurtful/unfair (valid) but IMO is just as valid a response bc honestly Shane hasn't really demonstrated that he's capable of understanding what Ilya is going thru much YET. ofc I don't blame Shane for seeking more connection but idk I think they both make missteps with each other sometimes and overall their unfortunate non-relationship relationship status is mutually agreed upon at this stage. I do think they both show real and sincere care for each other tho so I'm really rooting for them !!! but yeah while Ilya is very lestat coded in vibes I guess to me nothing Ilya's done is reading like selfish/manipulative in that way lol~ I'm so absolutely locked in tho cannot wait to see what the next ep brings hehehe!!!

maaariiii_

i don’t know why they didn’t translate it but at 34:34 Ilya said: “for you, mom” 🥺 it really got me while watching

iman

YOU GET IT!! i love your comment i agree with you on everything

Lani

waiting here for uni league biting my fucking fingernails n watching your other content in the mean time lol

freddies_patreon

ugh love ur reads as always, totally agree and I'm v excited to see the, hopefully, inevitable flip where Ilya gets vulnerable in a totally different way to how he is now. Been thinking so much since I watched this ep about their power dynamic and how it's being worked through sexually - they're both so in and out of control of their lives but in completely different ways. Ilya under the thumb of his father and brother but also undertaking all the financial responsibility for the family AND the emotional responsibility of his father's deteriorating health, plus the pressure of his country and his dad's ties to the government. He has no say in his life but simultaneously has to juggle all the plates and be in control the whole time. Shane on the other hand has the (currently less fleshed out) omnipresent spectre of his manager mother, the comments about his diet, career, the things he has to wear, the pressure of being a poc athlete. He's been funnelled into the life he has right now and as a result shielded from everything. The fact that he had that revelation that it was unsafe for gay people in russia.............. like, girl. My read so far is that his life is so controlled but he himself has no control of it. And then when it comes to the sex, up to this point, it really feels like they’re playing out this dynamic. Ilya wants control, needs control to an extent but is also burdened by it and can grow to resent it. Shane needs to relinquish control but feels frightened (?) by it, makes him unsteady and unsure and doesn’t know what to do when someone isn’t putting barriers around him. Upsetting for Ilya because he always has to do everything and has no one looking out for him, upsetting for Shane because he feels vulnerable and inexperienced and wants looking after (even if he would reject this idea). AND YET they both keep coming back to each other. Because it’s hot, yes, and they’re attracted to each other AND because there’s limited opportunity in the closeted, controlled world they live in. BUT there’s something about the thing that they have with each other which keeps pulling them back in. Ilya could have sacked it in when Shane was asking “what do you want from me” and he didn’t. Shane could have stopped seeking Ilya out. For the both of them, continuing to hook up is a choice that they keep making. And it’s going to be great to watch it develop over time. I think it’s going to be a really interesting show when it comes to audience reaction and online conversation because there’s so much in their stories that can be extrapolated on to everyone’s personal experiences. Whether it’s being in a closeted relationship, a badly communicated situationship, a cross-cultural relationship, avoidant/anxious attachment styles, when trauma collides etc etc. I imagine we’re going to see a lot of SHANE IS THE BAD GUY vs ILYA IS THE BAD GUY conversation which I’m not looking forward to. I think it’s going to be a lot of mess but I’m excited to get into the meat of the show and find out more. These are just my current takes so far and look forward to being wrong if it’s the case!

bella

YES YES YES to all of this, and one more thing I'll add (from my read at least) is that I think part of the dynamic for Shane is that he always, his entire life, has wanted nothing more than he has wanted to be Good. but in every aspect other than maybe the physical act of playing hockey which he excels at, the things that he has done to make other people perceive him as Good have never been things that make HIM FEEL good/happy/fulfilled/safe, and more importantly in many ways his attempts to be Good (the shallow brand deals, dieting, comp het) have driven him further and further from any sense of self identity. whereas in his dynamic with Ilya, the things Ilya asks him to do in order to be Good For Him actually align with Shane's own needs/wants/desires and bring him closer to his true self. and in some ways I think Ilya is so unbearably fond of and endeared by Shane's true self that maybe he doesn't fully realise just how radical this is for Shane and how much Shane needs reassurance and reciprocity to feel okay with actually being himself for someone else for possibly the first time ever. Also I def agree there will be a lot of bad guy accusations thrown around, personally I am (at least so far) fully committed to loving and supporting both my babies so nobody is the bad guy in bella's house !!!!! --ofc pending one of them doesn't do something too unhinged lol. I think I'm protective of both of them bc I relate to shane's autistic high achieving "always seems to be more invested than the other person" vibes but I also really relate to ilya's "I can't rely on anyone bc people always just assume I have my shit together" lmao

Kris

I love your reactions. I love and feel badly for Shane, however it is a very special place in my heart for Ilya. In my opinion Shane's inherent privilege—evidenced by his supportive family, lack of a language barrier, and Western background—cultivates a certain naivety. This naivety can sometimes inhibit his ability to 'read the room'. This often leads to a disconnect with Ilya, who is constantly in 'survival mode' especially when he is in Russia. Specific instances of this miscommunication are apparent during the balcony scene, when Shane assumes Ilya's return to Russia is positive, and especially the figure skating scene, where Shane's valid emotional needs clash with Ilya's explicit need for space. The situation is complex because while Shane's feelings are valid, Ilya is dealing with immense professional and personal issues. He's struggling with a major career setback, a brother that exploits him and an ill father who only shows him disdain making his guarded dismissive behavior a consistent coping mechanism.