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Heated Rivalry - EP 4 (Patreon)

Published:
2025-12-23 14:00:19
Edited:
2025-12-26 08:15:53
Imported:
2026-08

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all the things she said... all the things she said...

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Lina

Now I have to figure out whether to watch this on my phone because I cannot wait any longer or wait until I am home again after the holidays🙈

Romina

oh this episode was wild

ondraya

Yes its confirmed that Shane is autistic! Not only did the author of the books confirm it, but the director of the show and Shane's actor Hudson as well. Hudson Williams says his father is autistic and that's where he got a lot of his inspiration for Shane's mannerisms. A win for neurodivergent queer poc! The entirety of them in Ilya's house drives me crazy like we can see what domestic intimacy can look like for them but they need to TALK!!! All the Things She Said is probably one of the best needle drops in a tv show ever like that whole entire scene felt like I was levitating in pain.

Jer

the club scene was giving history 3 trapped lmao

Becca Grace

Ilya noticing Miles at the bar and realizing Rose and Shane will be at the club too and the slow turn while the music shifts slightly before he spots them together!!!!!!!!!!! And then Shane seeing Ilya's teammates and wondering if Ilya will be there... the shift from the female singing voice to the male singing voice when Shane realizes that he still wants Ilya... !!!!!!!!!!!!! This was the episode of all time bc I love pain and agony tbh. As a sapphic, i was like... hmmm... not sure i like a sapphic anthem being used in this scene, but honestly as a millennial "all the things she said" was like one of our first intros to music about unrequited gay longing, and Shane and Ilya ARE millennials, so it makes perfect sense IMO. Also comparing the scene of Shane unable to keep his hands off Ilya at the same staircase that we see him later hesitating at to follow Rose to his bedroom... Shane... pookie...

Sarah

instead of a brain i have Them

wensapphic

omg you’re so right

woosanie

Freddie, can you do a variety after you end this show, like with their interviews and etc? Because they just posted the actors on compliment battle on teen vogue and it's so fun I want you to watch it so bad!!!

Kris

Kris

In an interview, the actors offered an interesting perspective: Shane's preference for a submissive role during sex stems from his constant need to be in control in his daily life. Conversely, they explained that Ilya taking a dominant role fulfills his need for control, as he's often in chaotic situations. I feel like some viewers have misinterpreted Ilya's dominance as Shane being coerced, whereas in reality he actually actively seeks out and prefers the submissive role.

Kris

You are one of the only reactors I've watched who truly understands Ilya's situation with Russia. His father is literally a close friend of one of Russia's ministers—a friendship that likely dates back a long time, given that it's Svetlana's father and they've known each other since they were young. He was also the long-standing captain of the Russian national hockey team, which is a major deal in Russia. Many other reactors have downplayed the seriousness of these deep Russian ties, so your recognition of it is incredibly refreshing.

Amber Shintaku

I think you should remove the last Scott & Kip lol its a tad bit spoilery

Kayleigh

I can't wait for you to watch the next episode

lostskye

gay person who made a timeline here 🙋 (this is per the tv show and not the book, only covering ep. 1-ep. 4) !! this will only include Shane and Ilya’s timeline: Scott & Kips story in ep.3 spans over a few months before the 2014 Sochi Olympics in the show EPISODE 1: December 2008: -Ilya & Shane meet at the International Prospect Cup -Russia wins over Canada June 2009: -Ilya and Shane get drafted (Ilya #1, Shane #2) -gym scene (with very sexually charged water bottle exchange) January 2010: -Canada beats Russia at International Prospect Cup -Shane tells Ilya they will see each other in October during their rookie season ~6 months later~ (before the start of their rookie season) June 2010: -campaign photoshoot together in Toronto -shower scene -first hookup October 2010: -start of their rookie season -play first match against each other (Montreal vs- Boston) -Montreal wins -they do NOT hook up after this game January 2011: -All Star game in Nashville (Europe vs- North America) -Press conference together -hookup in Ilya’s hotel room -exchange numbers for the first time (“Jane & “Lily”) -make plan to meet up in 2 weeks at their next game, but that doesn’t happen due to weather May 2011: -end of their rookie season -Shane wins rookie of the year -rooftop scene END OF EPISODE 1 EPISODE 2: (big montage at the start of the episode— it has been confirmed that they did NOT meet up at all in person during this time) Summer 2011: -Ilya spends summer in Moscow, Shane in Montreal -keep up via texts Fall 2011: -Shane and Ilya play against each other Winter 2012: (beginning of the new year) -more texting exchanges Spring 2012: -end of sophomore season for Shane -Boston goes to playoffs so Ilya’s season is a little bit longer **we don’t see anything over the summer, but is implied they are still just texting each other** Fall 2012–Spring 2013: -start and end of their 3rd season -continue to text each other -assuming they played more games against each other, but we are not shown ~~end of montage~~ Fall 2013: -their 4th season -play against each other in Montreal -Ilya sexts Shane before the game -they meet at Shane’s condo and have penetrative sex for the first time (technically speaking in the show this is their first hookup since January 2011) February 2014: -Sochi Olympics -Olympic games do not go well for Ilya and he deals with the repercussions from family -Shane texts and asks if he’s doing okay which Ilya does not respond -have tense exchange while watching figure skating where Ilya tells Shane: “Not here, we are nothing, and to go away” -Russia scenes where we get more insight into Ilya’s life -Svetlana explains how Boston could win the Cup this year to Ilya -Ilya rejects advances from Sasha -checks text from Shane in bathroom, but still does not respond Spring 2014: -Boston wins the Cup -scene of Shane watching and getting emotional on the couch June 2014: -Ilya and Shane present award together -emotionally charged bathroom scene where we find out Ilya has still not responded to Shane (hasn’t texted him for around 6 months) -Ilya wins player of the year -Infamous Las Vegas hotel room scene -Shane asks Ilya about him going back to Russia for the Summer -heartbreaking “we didn’t even kiss” text type out (does not hit send) END OF EPISODE 2 EPISODE 4: ~~montage at the start of the episode~~ Summer 2014: -Shane spends summer in Canada, Ilya in Russia -they start back up their texting relationship -shows Ilya is still casually hooking up with other people Fall 2014– Spring 2015: -their 5th season -we see them texting, flirting, and hooking up throughout the season -Shane (Montreal) wins the cup for the 1st time—we see Ilya grinning while he watches it on tv Summer 2015: -spend summers at home while texting -we see Shane shoot a ton of commercials/endorsements -Ilya is shown partying, but is shown spending more and more time on his phone texting Shane Fall 2015- Spring 2016: -their 6th season -they continue to hook up and text each other -both are seen getting more and more addicted to their phones -Shane wins the cup for the 2nd year in a row Summer 2016: -texting over the summer -shows Ilya taking care of his father and noticeably not hooking up with anyone else (unlike we are shown in the last 2 summers) -Shane films the documentary about his “cottage” ~~~end of montage~~~ October 2016: -start of their 7th season -Shane is asked by Hayden when he is gonna start to “settle down” and tries to set him up -Shane goes over to Ilya’s house in Boston for the first time -Ilya asks Shane to stay the night, and Shane initially agrees -Tuna melt scene -Ilya asks Shane if he likes girls, have one of their first real conversations on the couch. Ilya admits that he likes girls, but also likes Shane- but still plays it off in a playful way -Ilya gets phone call from Russia where we find out his father’s health is continuing to deteriorate -afterwards they have a sweet moment that turns into a very emotionally charged scene of intimacy where Ilya uses Shane’s first name for the first time- as well as Shane using Ilya’s -Shane freaks out and leaves -Ilya is seemingly hurt by this December 2016-January 2017: -they have not texted each other since October -Shane meets Rose -they start casually dating -Ilya finds out via media reports and is seemingly jealous -Shane still checks his text threads for any texts from Ilya (there is none) -they play a game against each other and both play terribly -ICONIC CLUB SCENE -Shane leaves with Rose, Ilya leaves by himself END OF EPISODE 4 **key dates** -they meet in December 2008 -hookup for the 1st time in June 2010 -2nd hookup in January 2011 -3rd hookup/have sex in Fall 2013 -Las Vegas hotel “we didn’t even kiss” June 2014 -hooking up all throughout fall 2014-fall 2016 (during the season) -tuna melt/ oh shit this is getting real October 2016 their relationship so far at the end of ep.4 has spanned over 6 years and they are currently in their 7th professional hockey season together

lauren

the ginger ale was a big topic of discussion with this episode too. how the whole ep he was trying to get a ginger ale (the restaurant, the bar) and no one could give him one but the only place he got a ginger ale was at ilya's (offered to him without asking, ilya had it already in the fridge for him and asked if it was cold enough). otherwise he was assumed to drink wine or beer even though that's not what he wanted!!!!

lauren

also when i was at the toronto premiere, during the q&a one of the questions was what shane & ilya's anthem would be and connor answered that he wanted ilya to sing all the things she said at some point. it's been confirmed he DID NOT KNOW it was going to be used in the episode, it's just a crazy coincidence. but the way i screamed and leapt off my couch when i heard it while watching this for the first time omfg....

shauni

**REMINDER FOR ALL** Freddie sees most if not all comments left on reactions, by including information about future episodes they’ve not seen, details confirmed by actors that’s not been shown yet and book spoilers, you are running the risk of ruining the experience for Freddie watching it. Any spoilers given in any future comments will be removed and any future comments the individual makes will be heavily reviewed. Let’s ensure this show and any future show watched is a fun experience for both the audience and Freddie themselves by keeping spoilers off Patreon! ❤️

bella

agree with all of your takes omg.... this is literally the show of all time and ep 5 was far and away my favourite so we have SO MUCH to look forward to

Dan

I feel it’s very important to report on the vibes for this watch along from Dan’s house, it is currently 1pm on New Year’s Eve, he’s three episodes in, in his pyjamas, he’s just had some pastel del natas from Nandos, a gingerbread and white chocolate muffin from Greggs, and some freshly squeezed orange juice as an interlude brunch, thus concludes the vibes report - HNY everyone!

Mo

great observations about Ilya

freddies_patreon

I really appreciate this thank you!!! I try rly hard to make sure I'm taking care with the characters and their backgrounds as much as I can

lostskye

anything for you pope king 🫡

Keyna Obrion

Thank you for your service 🎉💕🌈👏🏾🥹

Eric Nord

December 2008 - They Meet - Prospect Cup - Ilya wins Summer 2009 - Hockey Draft - flirting in hotel gym New Years Eve 2009-10 - 2nd Prospect Cup - Shane wins Summer 2010 - Commercial Shoot - Shower Scene - First hookup Winter 2010-11 - All Star Game - "1221" - Second hook-up Summer 2011 - Vegas Awards - Shane wins Rookie of the Year - Rooftop scene Fall 2011 - Fall 2013 - Texting - not hooking up Fall 2013 - Shane's Apartment - First time fucking (This is also when Scott Hunter meets Kip) Winter 2013-14 - Olympics Summer 2014 - Vegas Awards - Ilya wins Cup and MVP - Penthouse - "We didn't even kiss" Fall 2014 - Fall 2016 - Continue hooking up when they play against each other Fall 2016 - Ilya's house - Nap, tuna melt, Shane freaks out, Shane meets Rose soon after Winter 2016-17 - All Star Game - Tampa - the "conversation" Spring 2017 - Ilya's Father dies, Shane injured, Scott wins Cup, "I'm coming to the cottage" Summer 2017 - The cottage - first time they sleep together overnight