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Vampire Diaries 3x5 Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2025-12-24 13:00:09
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2026-01-14 18:20:57
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The MVP and NVP's (Non Valuable Player) are given out on this one LMAO

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Chase

Bro poor Stefan he really be going through it 😞 and Joe you do realize Stefan is in this predicament because he had to save Damon when he didn’t have too 😂, you be hating on Stefan, it’s okay Tay.

ashley kuate

I'm sorry but Klaus slapping Elena like that will always be funny😭I love her but she really thought-

KlausTop1

Klaus and Rebekah are the MVPs

john segun doe

I cant wait to watch this in an hour

Kim Cottingham

Crap I'm at work. Least I have something to look forward too. My husband passed away and with no kids and no family around xmas kinda sucks. Least I have this and some of the sweet commenters who are very nice. Merry Christmas!! Sorry for feeling sorry for myself. I have a great dog and great new job though!!

BB

Exactly, poor Stefan, he is always sacrificing himself, this is all started because he sacrificed himself to save Damon’s life

Tamia Alexis

Merry Christmas to you Kim ❤️🎄

carpye

the wind up was so unnecessary 💀

Kim Cottingham

Thank you so much love. Sorry to go on about my life. I'm just lonely and a little sad. I hope ypu have a wonderful Christmas!!

Ashley Cruz

“Where were you Damon” 🥺😍 her safe spaceeeeee ALWAYS

Chase

That’s what I’m sayin, and Joe saying he ain’t doin much, when literally Damon was being a simp 😂 over Katherine for the first two seasons.

victoria t

“Where were you Damon?” Elena can’t even hide how much she relies on Damon now, their connection, and how much she knows he’d do anything for her. No matter what is going on and whoever is scheming what, she KNOWS Damon always has her back even if she doesn’t agree with his choices. I think she felt so much more vulnerable in this episode simply because Damon wasn’t there, but that’s just my opinion

Jazzie

The end discussion: Period go off Tay!! I’m on your side! 👏🏾😂🫶🏾

victoria t

Nah Damon MVP - he helped find Mikael, returned to Mystic Falls to save Elena, and then threatened Klaus chased him out of Mystic Falls, and finally saved Elena from the hospital. Stefan - NVP bc he did literally nothing helpful at all FYI Rebekah can’t be NVP bc she figured out Elena had her necklace… TELL HER WELLZ 🤣🤣🤣

kai

i love no humanity stefan he is so fun

KlausTop1

Wellz is right Stefan screwed the Mystic Falls Gang Over so much.

MEA

Maybe we should change it to MHP and NHP - Katherine was helpful this episode, Stefan wasn't. Acknowledging contributions to the episode without questioning value to the team? signed - Team Damon 1st, Team Brothers 2nd, Team Peace for Tay's Cup O'Joe 3rd

Jasmine Reigns

Joel ain’t no fucking way you give NVP to Stefan when dude literally fighting compulsion from an original 🤣 get your head out of Damon’s ass pronto 💀 Damon and Katherine did their thing tho fr

Funkystar

Nah Joe you gotta give Stefan his flowers this episode. It’s almost impossible to resist a complulson of an original vampire magnitude. Stefan held out all the way until klaus made him turn his humanity off. Anyone else would have feed on elena in the gymnasium straight away. But now enters my favourite Stefan arc😅 no humanity Stefan😆

Jasmine Reigns

Joe you gotta be ragebaiting bro 🤣🤣 bro just be talking fr

Chase

Thank you 😂

Chase

No humanity Stefan is funny 😁

Nyia

First off, Paul Wesley’s acting this ep was chefs kiss 👏👏 Secondly, Stefan is GOATED for fighting Klaus's compulsion. Not only to bite Elena, but he had to specifically be compelled to turn his humanity off after fighting Klaus's order to do it twice. So me personally he did something this ep that even Klaus himself was impressed that he held off for this long. Bc no other vampire has done that before. So give flowers Wellz!! Lastly, damon saying he wouldn't have done that for kathrine is so funny like he didn't spend 150 years doing everything he could to open the tomb, like come on he literally died for her! So what he said was bs.

Bruce Ray

"get a life Rebekah." she's trying believe me lmaooo

Funkystar

Nah Joe lowkey a Stefan hater😭😭 bro created a new episode award just to downplay Stefan. Crazy move man. Stefans will to not hurt elena this episode is what kept her alive and it’s not his fault klaus wants him soo bad🤷🏾‍♂️ #joehaterlowkey

Funkystar

Okay just dont forget to wipe your face off Damon’s cheek😭😭 Katherine was the one with the plan and kidnapped Jeremy Damon didn’t do anything of the sorts soo chill out. Only thing he did was feed off Katherine hard work and use it to scare klaus.

DKMT Show

Why didn't Klaus just kill Damon right there lol. Mikael is not here with you now, so I'll just kill you right here. Damon had no leverage there lol.

Funkystar

Nah you disappoint me house Targaryen, you used to be soo wise. Are we blaming Stefan for losing his will? He did fight for as long as he could. What could he have done differently. This whole mess started with him sacrificing everything for his big brother let’s not forget.

Nyia

Nah I think he’s fighting so hard to not love Stefan more than Damon at this point, or why go through this NVP nonsense.😅

Funkystar

Facts at the beginning Tay was a real Damon hater and we all saw it but her reasons behind it were justified and she explained how she didn’t like the villan hype character. Joe is doing a lot more hating these days and he does it for the love of the game😭😭 bro is a dedicated hater and it’s entertaining to watch😅 he will like this new Stefan tho

Andrew Walford

Wishing you a Merry Christmas, Kim 🎄💛

Nyia

It’s called plot armor!

Chase

That’s right! 😎 Talk to him

Kim Cottingham

Thank you Andrew! Making my day, so thank you very much. Have a wonderful Christmas as well.

SpikesEcho

If Bill Forbes can do it, so can you Stefan!!

SpikesEcho

And this is how we know, the witches that gave the elixir to Elijah to "save" the doppelgangers life mislead him. The witches don't want Klaus to succeed in making hybrids. Like Stefan/Elena, Elijah was too trusting. Elena would have never survived the sacrifice had they gone that route.

Jazzie

That may be the case, but I stand with Tay! I never thought this was on Stefan. We can’t blame Stefan because Klaus is so good at being a villain.

Loki

lol loved this reaction! Giving Stefan the Nancy award was diabolical lol....he did everything he could to fight Klaus. I agree with Tay Rebekah should get the Nancy this episode...but Stefan?! Now I don't like Vicki at all...but it was a really emotional and sweet moment at the end when Matt saw her again. This episode was soooo good.

Sonicluis

As a self proclaimed dedicated hater and fellow vegeta fan, I respect it wellz hate away.

Zyric

Wellz fighting for his life to not like Stefan. Don’t forget the only reason he’s in this position is cuz he had to save your boy Damon’s life in the first place. I’m team Damon but the dickeating is crazy 💀

Satellizer

Nah wells, you hating on Stefan is mad funny, Can't wait too see how you find a way to hate on him the rest of the season 🤣

SpikesEcho

Fr, been like that since S1 traumas and dramas

Zyric

Let’s be honest Wellz doesn’t have Stefan in his top 2. He just saying that cause he’ll be able to hate on him consistently & then when he does get his good moments he’ll say “that why he’s my 2nd favourite” shits hilarious. There’s a reason he be flip flopping 😭

SpikesEcho

It concerns me how much yall bring up Stefan saving Damon as something to hold over everyone's head....like that's just how family sacrifices. How everyone in this show sacrifices for each other. Thinking it demands obligations in return, or guilt tripping, is a disturbing view and defeats the purpose.

Ashley Cruz

Yessss . She can’t wait to call on Damon 🤣

Jasmine Reigns

lmfaooo she really is, bro the lore of the originals is sooo good I can't wait for them to reach there

Ashley Cruz

He always comes to her rescue 🤍

tayscupofjoe

Yep so true. That would’ve been such a crazy plan

Montae Williams

This episode was definitely a group effort but Matt gets COTE (character of the episode)! Also what did Caroline do for the team this episode? She was a hostage without information. Joel just trynna antagonize Tay with the Stefan hate 😂

Amber Augustine

I love the moment when Damon said, “I promise. I’ll never leave you again.” It was such an intimate scene between them. You can also see the relief on Elena’s face when she heard his words. They trust each other and have such a deep connection.

Amber Augustine

my favorite part is when Damon rescued elena from the hospital and carried her her home. It shows how much growth he has so far. he is a true hero. He always saves her every time when she needs him the most.

Amber Augustine

I feel so bad for Elena. She literally almost got killed by Stefan, even though he was compelled, tortured by Rebekah and almost got killed by Klaus again for his hybrids. She goes through so much trauma it’s unreal.

Dwayne Townsend

This is one of my absolute favorite episodes .. I always come back to

tayscupofjoe

Stefan did that!! Fought sooo so hard. And exactly, Damon is all confused when he speaks 😭

Dwayne Townsend

Now we actually see a clear and concise example of a Vampire with their humanity turned off … everything we seen before this wasn’t the real deal

Yara

joel the only reason your boi damon is still alive is because stefan went with klaus and made him promise not to touch his brother, so he kept elena alive secret and protected his brother what do you mean nvp stefan im team tay on this

Yara

great episode and great reaction

Amber Augustine

“That’s my boy!” Fr, Damon is so freaking smart to use Mikael as their leverage. Katherine’s plan came in clutch for sure. Klaus was clearly terrified and ran off after he revealed that info.

Yara

i keep wondering why didn't klause compel damon to tell him where he and katherine hid mickael, like damon all giddy saying he has leverage but did klause forget he was an original who can compel him like wdym

TrueTactive

It’s just the beginning of unrealistic Damon plot armor lol

Nyia

Bill had meditation and strong mental acuity that he built off of it for many years. A skillset that Stefan hasn't developed. Nor did he think he would. But atleast Stefan held off for as long as he could.

Biscuit Bunny

I think Joel needs to remember the only reason Stefan is in this situation was to save Damon. He would have been dead otherwise. He tried his best to keep the Originals away from Mystic Falls by just pretending to play their game. He sacrificed his freedom, his relationship, his comforts, his soberity….and how does Damon thank him? By continuing to flirt with his girlfriend and try to push up on her! At this point I think his Stefan hate is just to bait Tay (lol) because now I think he is being deliberately blind to what is going on with Stefan. He basically just likes Damon’s aura and will justify anything he does from here on out and vilify Stefan without context….its like the TVD fan wars all over again lol. We secretly love it though…just let my Stefan live! I think he deserves better than Damon and Elena at this point…

PandaaLe

I don’t think he was thinking clearly the moment Damon said Mikael. You can literally see him panic and panic never leads to smart or logical decisions. He probably forgot way more than just compelling Damon. Seems like the thought of Mikael completely fried his brain in that moment 🤣

Aarron Denton

I mean that’s not Damon’s fault that Stefan did that mind you Damon did the same thing for Stefan a hundred times in the past. Damon has been trying his hardest to get Stefan back and has put their relationship over his own feelings time and time again.

Biscuit Bunny

I get the point! I don’t hate Damon. I think he is awesome! My argument is the Stefan hate is kinda forced. I’ve always liked both brothers but people who like Damon because he is attractive and funny love to downplay Stefan’s contributions. But he has never sacrificed his freedom or done anything to this magnitude to save Stefan. He never enslaved himself to an Original. And up to a year ago…he promised him an “Eternity of misery.” Does he love his brother? Of course! No denying that. But he didn’t change for his brother…he is changing for the approval and love of Elena. Slowly but surely. He is not pushing his feelings aside at all! He wants to save him but he has flirted with Elena from the beginning and even baited Stefan about it. Remember he said “You should be happy Andie is here because it keeps me from going after what I really want!” Let’s not pretend that Damon hasn’t been pushing up on Elena consistently..whether she was in a relationship or not. Even Alaric saw it!! lol

Replay🍁

Not gonna lie. Wellz you're trippin on this one. If anything, Stefan told Katherine his plan, and she helped because he couldn't get away from Klaus. He's the MVP of this episode; he fought so hard. Damon and Elena should be grateful they're still breathing because of what he did

KadeTheGreat

Sometimes yall talk through the important dialog then ask what happend after lol. Yall genuine reactions be great thou

Dwayne Townsend

My boy Joel said “it’s a bad season for you” 😂😂 I’m dead

Nick

This episode is in my top 5 for sure, had me on the edge of my seat every minute!

KadeTheGreat

The guy who plays Tyler is definitely top 3 actors in this show you can feel his pain everytime

Nick

“He is valuable he’s Stefiiiiinuh” 😂😭😭

KJiggidy

Doing nothing for the team? Wellz you are killing me here brother. Did you forget Stefan’s only in this predicament because he saved Damon from Tyler’s werewolf bite? He made an ultimate sacrifice for his brother and girlfriend and that’s why he’s MVP. He’s been doing shit for the team, particularly Elena and Damon, this whole time. He kept trying to keep the truth of Elena still being alive a secret through the whole summer, tried to kill Gloria from learning about Elena, and even when he got caught, be still tried to help Elena and manage to resist the compulsion of an Original that’s a thousand years old for just a moment which is saying something. You think Damon can pull that off? Nah. Also, Stefan was the one who told Katherine about the necklace and Mikael in the first place (granted he didn’t know his name but knew there was a vampire Klaus and Rebekah were running from). That’s why Katherine came back to get Damon. She had information that she got from Stefan in the first place. Damon was a fool for leaving town. If getting information about Mikael was that important, why didn’t Katherine just tell him everything back when he was at his house? She didn’t need to take Jeremy away from town when they could’ve did all that in a disclosed location in Mystic Falls that way Damon could’ve gotten there sooner to help. Just saying.

Kim Cottingham

To me the best part of the show (I'm a Delena fan for sure) but is the Salvatore brothers.

Kim Cottingham

Thanks for reading my co.ment. Merry Christmas

Kim Cottingham

Don't get me wrong big, big fan of delena but Salvator brothers are the best part. Love their story

Andrea Dcosta

One of my fav eps of this season. Paul acted so well and I love Damon more from the brothers but Stefan is not NVP I get you Wellz right now he's not on our team but that's not his fault, he did try his best to not listen to Klaus feel so bad for him, he was forced to turn down his humanity and now he' has no emotions. I'm always team Defan the ultimate duo of the show and the foundation of TVD for me. Ppl here who hate either of them and engage in fan fars / take sides etc and spread hatred are really very petty and particularly don't know how to enjoy a show and Not take things personally anyways, I love how Damon gets Elena out of the hospital and when he tells her I will never leave you it's so sweet poor Elena needed to hear that...

Replay🍁

It's funny how even some people who are on #TeamDamon can see that Stefan didn't deserve that Anthony Joshua right hook Wellz gave him this episode. 😂😂

SpikesEcho

Bro you're tripping ballz with that re-telling of the brothers' story, "Damon didn't change for his brother but he's changing for Elena's approval"....have you not watched this show lol? That's not remotely what's happened between them before S1E1 but I can't get into spoilers. At least for the second half of your statement I can point out Damon has often not cared about Elena's approval (like literally last episode 😂) and as Rose said, Damon's made a life for himself with lots of people he now has relationships with and cares about. That is why he's changing. Because of the community he now has, including a brother who's not been terribly great

stressbean

#teamstefan always and forever. This episode says it all Stefan resisting the compellsion his love for Elena was that strong. Dont like Matt but he did his thing this episode. Damon as alway making moves on Elena

Tjbosslyfe

Rebecca could take out our whole group by herself. She shouldn't get a NVP . She's the muscle right now . Klaus the only reason she showing restraint. Rebecca temper worst than Klaus .

Tjbosslyfe

Coolest Stefan moment him walking in seeing Elena with Damon an saying y'all can continue. The love is gone right now lol .

Tjbosslyfe

As much as I like Season 3. The Originals are too powerful. They too dominant. We was struggling with Katherine strength.

Serori

I think there’s one emotionless Stefan scene we’re all waiting for

JayRambo

Episodes like this and the more to come in TVD and The Original’s is why Niklaus is in my universal Top 3💯

SpikesEcho

True! Tho Stefan's had 1.5 centuries of building up his mental strength, particularly associated with maintaining control over himself. So idk

Montae Williams

Not necessarily. 1. Elijah said he searched “far and wide” (in secret bc he didn’t want Klaus to know), to have an elixir made from scratch. I doubt he told the witch who/what it was really for. 2. Also when he had it made, it’d been 500 since the curse was put on Klaus. They made up a lie to spread about the Sun& Moon curse so no one knew about the hybrid curse anyway. The witches at the time (like Bonnie) wouldn’t have known anything about whether the elixir would be for hybrids or someone he loved. 3. Not all witches pull from their ancestors like Bonnie’s line. There may not have been ancient resistance to creating the elixir. So it likely would’ve worked.

Montae Williams

That was for something very specific which is bloodlust, not compulsion. He and Damon never even thought of building up a tolerance for vervain either until Katherine proved it could be done. He & Damon are like teen vamps. They’re still learning so much. This is why Pearl, Lexi, Rose and even Katherine are invaluable to have around, the wealth of knowledge runs so deep

Montae Williams

It makes him seem finer haha - I’m sure it’s the same effect-Damon stans get. We all need to lay on that therapists couch 😭😭

Lairi Baker

Not too much on my man Stefan!!! He fought multiple attempts by Klaus the originals compulsion to the point where Klaus had to compel him to turn off his humanity. As we've seen in the past and will see in the future, not every vampire is strong enough to do that. So STOP playing in my boy Stefans faceee Periodt

JayRambo

Damn Taylor killed Wellz at the end ngl sheesh nbs Stefan as NVP is kinda wild😂

Bruce Ray

Facts lol they haven’t seen anything yet.

Mnewmoon

I think Damon promising Elena that he would never leave her again is much more meaningful and deep that people don’t give it enough credits, because one thing we have to consider is that Damon and Elena are not dating, they’re not a couple, promising your partner that you always stay by their side is expected, it’s a vow you need to make to assure them that they can count on you and that’s how you can start building a future together. But here in this scenario Damon and Elena are not a couple and he’s making the promise of eternal devotion fully knowing that she may never ever love him back. Not to mention this promise happened after he brought back Elena’s necklace to her once again that represents Elena’s feeling for his brother. What’s Damon doing here is an embodiment of the highest level of unconditional love, he’s assuring her that he would NEVER leave her no matter the circumstances even if she chose someone else, he would be still there for her if she needed him. The promise that Damon is making here in this scene is free of all the limitations, expectations and conditions, it has nothing to do with Elena’s feelings or even the kind of relationship they have, it’s about Damon’s own devotion and absolute selfless and unconditional love that he has for her that nothing and no one could ever change that. That’s why I think the true beauty and the sacredness of this vow has been overlooked by this fandom. This is not just a beautiful promise, this is becoming one with love itself.

Matt

Stefan is cool but he didn’t do anything valuable this episode lmao come on

Domo

Bruh literally cheering for damon to steal his brother girl while he going through hell for him. Crazy work

Dwayne Townsend

When klaus yelled “turn it offf” I always get chills

Heatherlicious 82

Oh there is one specific scene I literally hated Stefan for

Heatherlicious 82

Wait til you see Stefan the rest of the season tho!

Replay🍁

''close'' is crazy ngl 😂😂

Funkystar

Kinda of mad if you deep it but it’s his first time watching we should give him some grace i certainly needed it on my first watch. Also it’s a supernatural drama show😭😭 but Joe is and has been saying crazy stuff last two seasons😅

Funkystar

Why bc you love Damon😑 i see you and i have a feeling i know the scene in question

Funkystar

👀 season 7🫣🫣🫣🫣

Chase

Omg 😱🫣

john segun doe

I Swear this my fav reaction channel right now!!!!!!!!!! The banter is sooo PEEEAAAKK lmaoo. Yo Wellz hilariously pushing tay's buttons and Tay fallin for the bait EVERYTIME will never not be entertaining to watch. Her yelling "its Stefaaaaaaan" at the end of the vid as it closes out was tooo funny Tay went crazy when Stefan fought against the compulsion and also at the fact that tyler is a hybrid now loool i love it. This ep was AMAZING start to finish and the fact that there are still AMAZING eps to come is soo fire!!!! Also its prolly just me but I really like this little Matt arc with his sis and how it goes over the next couple eps. There is great acting in it. Superb reaction y'all

john segun doe

Wellz: Klaus needs to see a therapist Me: I cannot wait until we really dive deep into his psychosis both in TVD BUT TRULY AMAZINGLY IN THE ORIGINALS

john segun doe

Yo no theme is more Epic on this show than the MIKAEL THEME MUSIC

Wandesimo

Ripper + no humanity is the best stefan he dgaf about nothing 🔥🔥🔥🔥

john segun doe

YO "CLOSE" IS DISRESPECTFUL LMAOOOO (im cryin rn)

Mel Issa

Klaus’ mind seems hardwired to panic at the thought of Mikael finding him.

Pandrix

When he tells her “I wouldn’t have done it for you”, that’s Damon acknowledging growth. He finally sees, the truth that Katherine never loved him. He wasted years on someone who wouldn’t have blinked if he burned. His loyalty now belongs to people who actually choose him back. That line is Damon’s emotional evolution. It’s the moment he stops living in the past

SpikesEcho

Sloppy writing. Happens all the time

SpikesEcho

Hard disagree. Sorry, your points don't hold up enough to make mine unlikely rather than likely. 1. Witches aren't dumb and they don't make "generic fix-it" spells. They need the details to do their work, as Gloria just recently proved. Plus they're ALWAYS shown to be careful about who they help and why. Whoever helped absolutely knew what they were making, for who, and why. 2. You just repeated No. 1, so see my answer above. 3. The only ones who don't pull from their ancestors are ones who don't want to get shut-down by them. But it's a huge (illogical) assumption that such an elixir for resuscitation (an unbalanced affront against nature) could possibly be made WITHOUT the help of extra witch power. The exlir was definitely unlikely to work.

SpikesEcho

Go deeper. Bloodlust is their innate instincts, urges, biological need. And the ONLY way you override those things are from mental strength, fortitude, and an incredible level of control (all based in the mind). It truly positions Stefan in a similar, perhaps better, place than Bill Forbes for resisting compulsion, not to mention Stefan himself has powers of mind control and some type of inherent resistance to it (on some level, obviously not on an original level) as a supernatural being, so he's not starting from scratch.

SpikesEcho

Sloppy Klaus writing. They have to propel the plot.

SpikesEcho

She's actually an independent, automous person. She doesn't "belong" to Stefan. Y'all are so misogynistic when you think about this complicated situation, it never fails to unnerve me in the fandom. Here's a challenge: try moment by moment approaching this from Elena's experiences rather than prioritizing Stefan's (her ex's).

SpikesEcho

First sentence, solid 💯. Second sentence, solid 💯. Third sentence, pure BS 🙄.

SpikesEcho

It concerns me how much yall bring up Stefan saving Damon as something to hold over everyone's head....like that's just how family sacrifices. How everyone in this show sacrifices for each other. Thinking it demands obligations in return, or guilt tripping, is a disturbing view and defeats the purpose. That's not what love is. That view of love reminds me of people with religious trauma, honestly....

Domo

No one said she “belongs” to Stefan . I literally only said she was his girlfriend… it’s misogynistic to state facts now ?

Rayloeverydaylo

my girl got me to start watching this series a few weeks before yall, currently about to start season 6 but watching back these first seasons with yall is crazy no spoilers but enjoy this season while it lasts!!

Montae Williams

The “details” for the elixir are to simply bring a loved one, (Katherine), back to life. It doesn’t take a lot to come up with a plausible story that either would have nothing to do with Klaus’ situation. Look at the magic rings that protect people from dying from supernatural means. You’d simply have to present the dangers constantly surrounding them to have it made by someone who cares to do it. Using logic in a debate regarding magic is ironic 😂

Mnewmoon

Calling Damon's survival "plot armor" completely misses the point of how power works on The Vampire Diaries. Damon doesn't survive because he's stronger - he survives because he understands psychological warfare. He looks at his enemies as people first, not untouchable monsters. Every powerful being has fear, trauma, attachments, and blind spots, and Damon's strength is that he sees those instantly and acts on them. In a psychological battle, you don't need to overpower someone to win, you need to paralyze them. When you hit the right emotional nerve (fear, uncertainty, attachment, or loss of control), the strongest opponent can freeze. Klaus may be physically unstoppable, but once Damon introduces leverage, in this case just name dropping Michael, It triggers survival mode (fight and flight response) and forced him to just remove himself from the situation without a second of hesitation. Klaus can't act without risking everything he cares about. At that point, strength becomes irrelevant. The moment hesitation appears, the fight is already over. Klaus is a long-term strategist who rules through intimidation and brute force. Damon's superiority comes from something more dangerous, psychological intelligence and adaptability. He makes decisions in real time, reads people instantly, and shifts the power dynamic so that violence becomes the worst possible option for his enemy. That's not plot armour, that's strategy. Power isn't just physical dominance, it's knowing how to make someone stronger than you unable to move.

FACE 2.0

you’re right. that was the whole point of that scene. we saw klaus shiver for the first time as damon utters the name ‘mikael.’ he was scared.

FACE 2.0

i’m a damon enthusiast but part of the the respect i have for stefan comes from this episode. holding off that compulsion for as long as he could was a demonstration of his unrelenting love for elena. so we definitely need to give credit where credit is due and he deserves some praises for what he was able to do in this episode. as for damon, i always enjoy his missions and quests. he’s always finding out pertinent info and working with other characters to acquire some type of leverage to keep the plot moving.

Pandrix

How exactly is Damon "stealing" Elena?

Domo

Damon was pretty chill compared to most episodes I’m specifically referring to Joe saying Elena is Damon girl

Pandrix

People really underestimate how much Damon is carrying here. He didn’t just magically show up with answers, he’s the one who’s been actively fighting to break Klaus’s power while everyone else is stuck reacting. Damon is keeping the bigger picture in focus. Klaus isn’t just a threat to Elena, he’s tormenting Stefan, controlling his every step, and slowly ripping him apart from the inside. Damon sees that, and instead of sitting around crying about how the world is unfair, he goes out with Katherine and hunts for the solution, Mikael, the one person who can kill Klaus. That entire mission with Jeremy and the necklace, he’s the one willing to get his hands dirty and take risks. Klaus is weaponizing Stefan’s trauma, forcing him to shut off his humanity and feed and Damon knows if he leaves Stefan in that state too long, there’s no coming back. So he’s out there doing what Stefan can’t right now trying to free him. Damon in Season 3 isn’t the same impulsive guy from the previous seasons. He’s learning and evolving every move he makes now has strategy behind it. He may not be the “moral” brother, but he’s the one actually protecting the future Elena’s, Stefan’s, hell the whole town. The irony here is Damon always gets painted as the problem because he’s the one taking action, making the hard calls, making mistakes in the process but he’s the reason anyone even has a chance. Without Damon pushing the chessboard forward, Klaus would’ve already won. Damon’s arc here is all about growth, responsibility, and purpose. He cares maybe too much but that’s exactly why he doesn’t stop. That’s why he matters and is crucial to the plot.

SpikesEcho

Um, yeah, boiling her down to an object of possession (something that a man can have and another can steal) is misogynistic, furthered by the reduction and eraser of her experiences in all of this which include VERY TRAUAMTIZING experiences with Stefan (Stefan's willful choices), driving her to grow apart from him, and in her and Damon's fight to save him, include growing closer to Damon. You ignore her and her experiences entirely in the equation and make her nothing but a thing to be had or lost for the men. That's a textbook misogynistic lens

SpikesEcho

Douchebag-ery in either brother is off-putting, so idk where y'all are coming from with all that lol 😳 Like even just Stefan's Ripper self, like we see in S1 and in the Chicago flashback is a total jackass and not remotely charming or fun. But I do like seeing humanity-off Stefan for what we can learn about vampires and the humanity switch. Gives Paul a chance to have S1 Damon energy

Jay Wells

Get his dick out ya mouth

Bura

Bruh Stefan is a victim! And Elena is valid for wondering where Damon was when he left because of a temper tantrum. I love both brothers but Damon’s emotions cause both problems and solutions.

Pandrix

You mean speaking on what is narratively shown? Lol

kingBD

Glad u gave Rob a shoutout wellz cause u definitely acting just like him😂 saying anything to try and get ur point to stick

john segun doe

lmaoooo I said that like a season ago. And gave him the Killua analogy. But on here with Wellz its all for fun and to push tay's button which is hilarious. I feel like Rob just be takin it to the enth degree frfr

Jay Wells

You did a pretty good job explaining how Damon has changed and is evolving but at the same time ignoring how he is actively stealing his little brothers girlfriend. Nothing damon does will mask that betrayal. He’s a snake 🤷🏽‍♂️

SpikesEcho

Jay - you're doing a really good job erasing Elena's experiences in HER relationships, boiling her down to something of Stefan's "to be stolen". Do better with yourself. So tired of y'all acting like she's just Stefan's or not Stefan's, Damons or not Damon's, in this convo. If she's feeling less for Stefan it could have to do with the SIGNIFICANT TRAUMA that's changed their relationship forever (a combination of Klaus' doing and STEFAN'S choices). Use those big brain muscles, my guy, and less of your lizard brain

Pandrix

Jay how exactly is Damon trying to "steal" Elena?

SpikesEcho

We're working off the same, unchanging source material (a fixed set of knowledge that can be referenced), so yes, of course you can use logic when discussing it...no matter if it's fiction and fantasy 😂 The elixir was made to save the doppelganger's life, not specifically Katherine's or specifically a loved one (hence him offering it to be used for Elena). That alone means the witches knew its for the doppelganger and also necessitates their being privy to the situation it'd be used in. The gilbert rings are a nice counterpoint tho

Jay Wells

It’s obvious! You don’t walk up on your brothers girlfriend naked like he did a couple episodes ago. Don’t try and act dumb. There’s a bunch of times he has pushed up on her. But your bias so you won’t acknowledge that cause Damon’s dick is still in ya mouth

Pandrix

For one, the narrative paints that as a comedic moment nothing more this also exists in many forms of media. Secondly prove that’s him trying to “steal” her that’s another non argument. Appealing to ignorance here. 2x8 Damon says he didn’t deserved her but Stefan does. You don’t know the definition of “stealing” nor do you understand the concept of banter.

SpikesEcho

Jay - As the only one who's repeatedly brought up Damon's dick, you are quite literally the ONLY one with his dick in your mouth 🤣 You're OVERBLOWING (😂) Damon's interactions with Elena, bro, which is why YOUR BIAS is the only thing on display here. Damon is flirty with everyone (leave a scene with Elena, enter a scene with Liz, and you get the same exact flirtiness), but more importantly, he still sets and maintains boundaries whenever he and Elena grow closer. They toe the line with it in the writing. You intentionally ignoring that fact and over emphasizing benign moments is very telling

Grace16

I don't' understand why everyone so easily forgets that Stefan is in this situation because he saved his brother, because he sacrificed everything. and he will do it repeatedly throughout the series. But Damon is always the hero , even if he only brings Elena home from the hospital.

MICHELLE GONZALES

OMG I TOTALLY feel exactly the same way Tay does. It's like EVERYTHING I felt and feel when watching this amazing show. And dang y'all both did so well absolutely nailing a prediction....I won't say which 1 but....great job. :)

MICHELLE GONZALES

Klaus Mikaelson IS the GREATEST villain EVER! He will always and forever be my fav character/actor of ALL time. Then Elijah and Stefan. Then it's Rebecca, Katherine, Bonnie, Elena, and Damon. Then it's sheriff Forbes(later) Tyler, and Alaric. Lastly it's Matt and Caroline and another 2 or 3 that come along later, one of which ranks up there right after Stefan and Elijah. :)

MICHELLE GONZALES

Yep EXACTLY! He is a snake in the grass. He always slithers off into the sunset for all Damon worshippers though so....

MICHELLE GONZALES

He's only kissed or tried to kiss her how many times. What kind of a dick move is that? That's his BROTHER who has helped save his life SO many times even though he never deserved to be saved. Damon ONLY saved Stefan cuz he said he owes or owed him for saving his life....not cuz he cared about his brother! IF he did...he would have NEVER gone after Elena OR Katherine. Damon is a dick. Would you want him as your brother irl?? Just sayin.

MICHELLE GONZALES

How was it Stefan's choice? He was with Klaus to save his ASSHOLE BROTHER!! HELLO!!

MICHELLE GONZALES

How do you not see that Damon is ALWAYS trying to make the moves on Elena?? How many times has he tried to or actually kissed her?? Or pushed up against her, tried to be alone with her, found a way to touch her, and had conversations with sexual innuendo or blatantly used pick up lines on her. Hello! Have you even seen the show?

MICHELLE GONZALES

Facts! There are some little parts that are SO crucial and or important...but are easily missed IF ya even blink or look away on this show. It's imperative to pay close attention to the dialogue for sure. :)

Pandrix

If Damon didn’t care about his brother, he would’ve walked away in 1864 and never looked back but instead he spent 145 YEARS following Stefan around the world because Stefan was spiraling and Damon refused to let him die or be alone with his guilt this is after Stefan forced vampirism on him and hated him for that. Damon going after Katherine and Elena was NOT about disrespecting Stefan it was Damon finally choosing something for himself after a century and a half of emotional misery. Damon’s arc is literally about learning to stop living in Stefan’s shadow and be a person with desires, not a martyr to his brother’s story. Loving someone does not erase your own wants. Stefan didn’t own Elena. Elena wasn’t a prize. Damon caught feelings because Elena got past all his walls the very walls Stefan helped build by constantly telling him he wasn’t worth loving.

MICHELLE GONZALES

I don't think YOU'VE seen the show obviously. You don't know what you're talking about. Just sayin. :/

MICHELLE GONZALES

They didn't hide Michael. He has been there for a long time AND Rebecca knew where Michael was. Next episode she says that.

MICHELLE GONZALES

Yeah let's applaud the guy that carries off his brother's girlfriend and love of his life. 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 That's a slow clap btw.

MICHELLE GONZALES

He's jelly of how much Tay likes Stefan . LOL! Jkjk ish. :)

MICHELLE GONZALES

Well I have to disagree wth you Ms think you know it all. When Bonnie wss doing certain magic with Luka, she couldn't and didn't tell him specifically what she needed, yet he STILL did the spells with her and said he didn't need to know so....not saying he's right per say about the elixir working or not...just saying you're wrong though you are always adamant you're right. You act like you know EVERYTHING about this show but you seem to only give your opinion and never give facts. I've yet to see ANY comment made by you that is legit. Quit stating your opinion like it's what actually happens in the show and quit being so condescending. And what does that even mean...your points don't hold up enough to make mine unlikely rather than likely. Huh?? :)

SpikesEcho

Michelle - "And what does that even mean...your points don't hold up enough to make mine unlikely rather than likely. Huh??" Don't strain yourself, I got you: "Her counter argument did nothing to make my argument less likely. My theory is still more likely based on evidence in the show." I'm one of the few that actually bother to use examples in the show to support my comments - I'm sorry that rubs you the wrong way. As for your Luka "argument"....you do realize that BONNIE was the witch leading things who had all the details and knew what they were doing and Luka was just supporting her and/or being channeled, right (not to mention he actually did know exactly what was going on and didn't blindly sign up)? Meaning the magics being done weren't being done blindly, generically, or unguidedly. So back to the drawing board with that one for you :) :)

SpikesEcho

Michelle - Because he behaves the exact same way with Liz and most other female friends he has. It's as benign as breathing and should be taken exactly as seriously as all the women on the receiving end who know him take it (but you don't put yourself in the shoes of the woman, do you? You seem to choose to put yourself in Stefan's shoes only, to get offended on his behalf. That's something to look into.). His making a serious advance is exceptionally rare, usually accompanied equally with setting a boundary, but you CHOOSE to ignore that and exaggerate his flirty personality as being something consequential and egregious. Please develop some discernment :)

SpikesEcho

Michelle - Are you ok? You've been losing your shit over Damon in multiple comments. You know, Defan is the reigning ship in the show (at least with emotionally mature people) for a reason....It disturbs me how little you're able to follow each character's story. It seems you've chosen one (Stefan) with glaringly bright rose-colored glasses, and safeguard his feelings and experience (with the exception of how and why he loves his brother, of course) at the expense of all others/others be damned. Their whole lives, Damon is sometimes the better brother, and Stefan is sometimes the better brother (tho I think it's traditionally been Damon). You might get more out of the show if you approach it with more well-rounded empathy, cause the resulting spite and bias is not pretty 😬

SpikesEcho

Michelle - I'm worried for you, dear. You answered your own question, yet can't seem to connect those dots. Katherine states it outright ("He gave up everything to save his brother, including you [Elena]"), as does Stefan to Elena's face, and in no uncertain terms, breaks up with her. He made a 👂 👂 - say it with me - CHOICE. He didn't have a good choice to make, but he made it. But what's more telling, instead of scheming to find a way out of it (just like he's scheming to protect Elena), he instead decides that his image in her eyes is so irreparably damaged, that it's not worth it. He can't handle it. So he's just gonna wallow in what he's lost and accept it. And let it define him. Very on brand for Stefan tbh, and it gets less and less respectable to me. So yes, Stefan's CHOICE. His continual choice.

John Walker Is That Dude

They are all villains Klaus is the only real one here everybody else are hypocrites. The real Stefan is the ripper.