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The Vampire Diaries 7x11 Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2026-10-04 12:00:14
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2026-10-24 19:14:00
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SpikesEcho

Henri's "peekaboo" is incredibly eerie

SpikesEcho

Wait....I never noticed before: Stefan gets out of the stone and the first thing he wants to do (his own words) is get back to normal with Caroline and go on dates??? Damons priority right after getting out (thinking he's out) is to get Stefan out.

KlausTop1

The are the writers doing too Stefan this season he wouldn’t go on some stupid date with Caroline without knowing Damon is out first.

SpikesEcho

Ah yes, one of my most hated plots in all of TVD and one that they repeatedly hit on this season....The Phoenix stone hell is meant as punishment but also some cosmic "teaching the prisoner a lesson". Damons was about forgiving his mother and it uses various real-life scenarios of him trying to get to his brother/be there for his brother (his love for his brother). Whereas Stefan's "lesson" is that his loving his brother is a detriment to him that holds him back, ie Damon is not worth loving. Welcome to the bastardization of Defan. I hate it here

KlausTop1

Stefan character hasn’t been good since S3 imo.

KlausTop1

I know it’s so stupid.

Jasmine Reigns

Rewatching season 7 solidified why the show should have ended at season 6. Such a irritating season lol the character assassination of multiple characters from this point onward

SpikesEcho

I'm sorry, but Stefan driving home to Damon how he's "the absolute worst", telling him to his face all the worst qualities Stefan thinks define him/who he is (KNOWING it echos the degrading things Damon thinks of himself), and then saying "but I love you anyway [in spite of who you are]" is NOTHING SHORT OF FUCKED UP. Disgusting messaging. This isn't the first time the show explicitly frames Stefan's love for his brother this way, trying to pass it off as some type of genuinely sweet and altruistic moment from Stefan, when this is some of the most fucked up shit ever. Damon receives "love" from people *meant* to love him ONLY when they also tell Damon that loving him is a detriment to them and that they love him "in spite of who Damon is". It sickens me.

Nyia

Now Damon was definitely wrong for not telling anyone about his hallucinations especially Stefan when he asked him if was okay…because keeping that to himself ultimately led to him hurting and losing the woman he loved. He was already struggling to separate reality from what was in his head, and staying silent made everything so much worse. He absolutely deserves accountability for that.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Nyia

What's so strange to me is that while Damon's time in the stone served purpose to make him take a look at his actions and find forgiveness towards his mother, all that Stefan got was that he has to let Damon go. I feel like there was so much they could've used for Stefan but yet that was the thing he had to accept? Stefans experience in the stone was basically Damon being a burden and to me that makes no sense, especially when Damon wanted nothing to do with him when he first turned. I liked their brother moment at the end though, minus the part where Stefan started naming a bunch of negatives about Damon despite the fact that he too has been all those things and was reckless like two episodes ago

Nyia

I found Matt always pretty annoying, I mean his whole point in being on the show is hating the vampires, but this season really takes the cake. If you hate them all so much why don't you just move away?? Everybody you know in this town is either dead or supernatural anyways. So what are you protecting exactly?!

SpikesEcho

Early seasons Stefan was very polished. Even when they gave him a major flaw (Ripper issues) it was STILL very polished and had strict boundaries that made people digest it easily and accept it easily. But after they separated Stefan from the person who defined him (Elena) and then tried to give him layers/dimensions - flaws, faltering, etc - they haven't been able to stick the landing with any of it. His character doesn't work like that

SpikesEcho

I think they lean into "the blast from the past" for Stefan because it doesn't threaten Stelena in any meaningful way. Whereas a genuine new love after Elena isn't something the Stelena audience could handle and it would undermine Stelena. I can't tell if that's underestimating their audience or knowing their audience too well lol

SpikesEcho

If Stefan had first hand experience about what it's like hallucinating fresh out of the Phoenix stone, while thinking you're ok, WHYYYY did he at all allow Damon to roam free? Make it make sense 😭😭😭

Kim Cottingham

I think there is not many shows that don't have horrible seasons. Personally part of this, mainly the beginning wasn't that bad but yeah thos part isn't good.

Kim Cottingham

Even Nina when interviewed when the show should end (this was beginning of season 4) she said 6 sounds like a good number.

KlausTop1

Facts he’s so boring and one note. He could be an interesting character. But the writers don’t care.

Dale LaPointe

To be honest watching 👀 it I think Tyler was going to shoot Damon and put him in the coffin. So i would guess it was empty to put Damon in he was clearly seeing things.

Ak2004

I don’t know if you guys picked this up but Henry was in season 1 he was one of the tomb vampires and he was in some of the flash backs in season 2 as well

Dale LaPointe

Outside the fact Stelena has been dead and buried since season 4 episode 6 when they broke up and if were being honest it was over season 3 just they kept it going for no reason!

Ak2004

Facts this is when Matt gets so extra extra annoying that it started to piss me off so baddd

Dale LaPointe

Stefan dream in stone makes complete sense its not he hates his brother or wants his brother gone but the fact he forced his brother to turn because he couldn't live without him. I think the lesson Stefan needs to learn is he shouldn't of forced his brother to be a monster just because he didn't want to live without him. That's my take the stone is teaching him he should of let him go it took till what Season 2 for Stefan to apologies for forcing him to even turn I think that's the lesson for Stefan to learn he shouldn't of forced his brother over the fear of being alone without him!

Dale LaPointe

Its a tv series people keep saying character Assassination they were bad off and on for 150 years people take it to personal! These are grey vampires none of them are Great people all make mistakes even Matt makes mistakes and he is human. I rather have season 7 and 8 then have nothing after 6 matter of fact I wish it was still on !'

Dale LaPointe

Well its Bonnie trying to get Damon out of the stone and its been weeks since Stefan got out she got him out first so why can't they go eat. People just hate on Stefan and Caroline to much they take it to personal. You don't like them fine but its part of the story they're having dinner while they still wait for Damon to come out should they sit over him for weeks and hover for no reason?

Dale LaPointe

It makes perfect sense they went out for dinner while Bonnie was still trying for weeks to get Damon out are they suppose to not go out ? Tell me how that makes any sense !

Jasmine Reigns

Didn’t Stefan thought he was with Damon the entire time? It seems both were hallucinating but Stefan was hallucinating being with Damon.. idk you can clarify if I’m off

Dale LaPointe

Um Stefan having them as well and he finally told Caroline ! Its clear they're going to keep having them until they stop having its like Jet lag!

Timothy

Ya'll act as if Damon is the easiest person to love.

SpikesEcho

Stefan's hallucination of Damon began when they left the bar. He wasn't hallucinating him when Damon was in chains and he released him

Dale LaPointe

I don't blame either Stefan or Damon for trying to fight threw it they seen Julian manage it they decided to keep it in and fight threw it but the fact is they can hurt anyone while fighting it. But I don't blame either for attempting to fight threw it !

KlausTop1

Yeah if my brother was Trapped in Hell I wouldn’t be able to just have a normal dinner.

SpikesEcho

Ew, echoing the sentiments of his abusive parents 👎👎👎 If you find someone "hard to love" (gross) you don't tell them that to their face repeatedly, at their lowest moments when they're thinking the worst of themselves. That's NOT love. That's abusive and toxic.

Tay's Cup O' Joe

I wonder if that’s because of how the stone made him feel about Damon? Or because he’s just a mess this season 😩

Tay's Cup O' Joe

I feel this for sure! Was expecting some big ripper lifestyle to haunt him but it was his own brother 😖

Tay's Cup O' Joe

Lolllll they definitely had to make it something meaningful for him

James

🔥🔥🔥 getting ready to enter the next era😝 the next big bad is.....tay.

Amber Augustine

Matt is so freaking annoying. He holier than thou attitude pisses me off. He keeps complaining about vampires being in their town when they made the treaty in the first place. He can leave anytime, but instead stays there for no reason. 😭

Amber Augustine

I love how they depicted the psychological effects of Damon and Stefan escaping the hell stone and how it affects them deeply. Ian and Paul did such a good job of portraying they were going insane.

Amber Augustine

I never understood why Stefan’s “Hell” was letting damon go, instead of his ripper days over the centuries. It’s suposed to be punishment. I hate the message that Damon is only a burden to him, when we know they were estranged for decades. I feel like the logic is kind of backwards here.

Tae2funny

And yet u are still sitting here watching it yall gotta learn to move on if yall don’t wanna watch it especially if u are watching reactors watch it for they first time

KlausTop1

Bro you still love a show and critically analyze the show at the same time.

Tae2funny

Hopefully nobody comes at me for my replies i stated.

Jasmine Reigns

I understand , personally in these last two seasons there are more bad episodes than good ones but that can just be me. The writing greatly diminished however the show is not horrible after season 6 but you can tell they did not have full direction

jay milly

I feel like Stefan should have interpreted his hellstone experience as he needs to stop saving Damon every time he’s in trouble because it’s holding him down and hurting him as well

Anikait Galla

Its way better than tvd season 5 and 1st half of tvd season 6

Halima

I disagree. Stelena definitely wasn’t as popular back then as it is today, so fans wouldn’t have stopped them from giving Stefan a convincing new love interest. The writers just became incompetent some time around s4 and struggled to write romances as well as they did in s1-3.

Loki

What would have made more sense to me with the phoenix stone for Stefan was him reliving all the deaths he caused, and him coming out with so much grief and distress that he turned his humanity off as soon as he got out of the stone, I think that would have been a better storyline than just letting go of Damon. But I suppose maybe Stefan has let go of his past and that's why the stone didn't bring it up? who knows.

Halima

Sometimes when a show goes on too long certain characters just start being written stupidly, it’s a fact of life 🙏🏾

Halima

I find it hard to explain but a lot of the exploration of Stefan and Damon’s relationship this season feels like referring to early seasons versions of the characters and not present day.

Tae2funny

True true I’m ngl I do hate like 3 eps this season in s8 I hate the last 3 😂

SpikesEcho

Idk totally rocking the teen notion of "one true love" by having both characters very successfully move on with just as big a love after, is asking a lot of a teen show/teen audience. But they may well have been underestimating their audience

SpikesEcho

Even with as bad as S7-S8 are/can be, it's very necessary to watch them. There's some crucial stuff and some good episodes. But it's still ok to recognize theyre bad, and I'm someone who more regularly revisits these seasons rather than the early seasons. The back half of the show is my preference (S6 my fav)

Halima

Yup! His character’s been very weirdly written post s3. They clearly had no idea what to do with him after the love triangle was done, and I guess they’re trying to revive him now by exploring his and Damon’s relationship but they’re doing a lot of telling that just doesn’t match what we’re actually seeing 💀

Dwayne Townsend

Ehhh true but I kinda I disagree as well … maybe if it were season 3 or 4 .. but we’re in season 7 now .. years down the line .. everyone is “seasoned” at this point .. everyone still moves urgently for eachother but I also think they still take the time to live as well … im sure doing so he thought it helped with the visions as well.. but I can completely seeing Stefan having some downtime with Caroline and the midst of Bonnie, Nora etc working to get Damon out .. especially since there’s nothing Stefan can do to help anyway

Timothy

And guess who fostered that abusive and toxic relationship?

SpikesEcho

Wait, who "fostered" Stefan being emotionally abusive and toxic towards Damon is your question (with the implication it's Damon's fault)? 😂 As I've layed out before, Stefan by-and-large is way more at fault for their dynamics, starting in 1864 and each brief contact they've had since then. It's not even a hard argument to make.

Dwayne Townsend

Julian is much older but he isn’t immortal so how he handles the brothers is slightly different than Klaus would.. is guard is up … that and plot are why they haven’t killed him yet .. bcuz honestly all it would take is Bonnie and Damon .. easy kill

SpikesEcho

Which is so disappointing, and weird because I like Stefan more when he's independent from Elena/separate from her. We get more sides to him and more of his sense of humor, but they just never made it work for him after her.

Malu x

Every other point aside in comments which i agree with, i don’t understand why people think what Stefan “learned” was that Damon’s bad and he needs to let him go cause he’s bad. Literally everyone and everyone’s mother knows Stefan will never love anyone as much as his brother, therefore always putting him first and either standing by him through good and bad or cleaning up his wrongdoings etc etc, i think the lesson was more you’re not gonna get far in life with yourself or anyone else if you’re always gonna put him first. That’s what’s holding him back, himself putting his brother first, not Damon’s “bad persona”. Damon is doing pretty good. Bad persona storyline doesn’t apply to him this season at all.

SpikesEcho

Beside the fact of every side character and main character having dialog every single episode to emphasize Damon "is bad". Precisely driving home that point. Stefan repeatedly as well, including point blank this episode, to the point where Damon even parrots back to him the derogatory opinions about himself. It's incredibly heavy handed. They both put each other first when the other is in trouble and they both self sacrifice to do so. Yet they only try to paint that as a negative for Stefan, something he does against his best interests. That's really bad messaging.

SpikesEcho

When does he distress over Elena this episode??

Malu x

I agree, but i’m not saying what i said about what people say to each other, which is very different from how they feel. Stefan and Damon could be crapping on each other but the reality is Damon will always be Stefan’s priority and that’s how i see his “phoenix message”. Otherwise, i agree that what everyone tells one another is not doing anyone well.

Malu x

Thanks for replying omg, i was watching the other episodes as well and messed up what i was commenting about. But you probably guessed what scene i’m talking about. I’ll delete this.

Jennifer

I’ve always said tvd should’ve ended with s6 but they just decided to drag it out and because of this a lot of my favourite characters went down on my list because of the character assassinations

savannah rain

i agree with on some comments but imo it makes sense to me as to why Stefan’s conscience tells him to let Damon go. Stefan attaches all the bad (ex-running with Klaus/ going back to ripper to save Damons life) in his life to Damon. even though most has been done to save and help Damon. so for him wanting to move on and be with Caroline to have a semi normal life makes sense (to me). yes he will fight for his brother but in the end he just wants to move on to live as normally as he can.

Zanni

They're literally not even doing his character dirty right now. Like wth has Stefan done wrong this episode?😂 I AM CONFUSED. He's allowed to have dinner with his girl wth!😂 It's not that deep. We can't be nit picking like this.

Zanni

Y'all just hate Stefan at this point I can't😭🤚🏽Maybe it's media illiteracy at this point.

SpikesEcho

Media literacy problems in not recognizing how bad the writing has gotten for a character 👎 I love Stefan, he's top 3 for this show, and it makes me heated that they floundered this hard with him. And in doing so, ruined Defan, which is my favorite part of the show

Zanni

Everyone acts as though the Salvatore brothers are easy men to love💀😂 The Stefan vitriol in this particular situation is honestly unwarranted. They do love each other, but they’re also incredibly different in how they process and respond to things. They’re two deeply traumatized men who have lived incredibly complicated lives and, on top of that, have had an equally complicated relationship with each other for DECADES. Their dynamic was never going to be simple. Sometimes it's predictable, sometimes it isn't. It is what it is.

Miloš 🇷🇸

5:20 would love a reaction to the Fast and furious franchise even if one of you saw it!!!

Tjbosslyfe

Taye you were cooking with the Damon Stefan relationship breakdown

SpikesEcho

Stefan ran with Klaus all on his own. Met him in the 20s, loved him apparently enough to call him a brother, and Damon had nothing to do with that nor Stefan being without humanity then. His reprise with Klaus was something to associate with Klaus leveraging and manipulating him. Would be crazy for Stefan to think of that negative experience as Damons fault

Zanni

It makes sense for Stefan to see Damon and not immediately see his “ripper life.” He’s already spent so much time being tormented by what he did as a ripper. I think having him relive the whole “ripper” thing would almost be too easy, because Stefan is already deeply guilt-ridden about his past and has a process of trying to atone for it (names of the wall, self-control feeding, etc). He already knows how to confront and deal with that part of himself. What he’s been dealing with FOREVER is Damon - trying to save his humanity, protect him, and make up for the fact that he was the one who turned Damon into a vampire in the first place. That’s a much more personal and complicated source of guilt for Stefan.

savannah rain

not saying it’s Damon’s fault. saying it’s a negative experience tied to Damon. one of many falling of the wagon, tied to Damon. this time it’s on the behalf of saving his life.

john segun doe

I havent watched The reaction to this episode yet nor do I remember the contents of what happened in it but just wanted to add my two cents in response to comment. I really like this season and a bit of next season not so much. I think the eighth season is the weakest season. But I like this season because we get a lot of brother bonding lore and focus on their relationship and also quite a bit of damon exploration and depth, which are kind of my 2 first priorities for the show to be honest over any shipping imo

john segun doe

Yah mainly a very uninteresting character post mid-season 6. He does do an unforgivable thing tho, but also does a really awesome and character defining thing as well (You prolly can guess both things). Besides those 2 "i know nothing Jon snow" and really could care less about bro.... sadly

john segun doe

Lmao WOAH the comments are commenting tonight. I finally found time to watch this reaction, lets go ahead and watch this reaction and see what the fuss is about lool

john segun doe

My take on the Stefan happiness being contingent on being free of Damon is that it sort of calls back to pilot episode/season Stefan and his fear of Damon making good on his promise of eternal misery for all his remaining days. There is that, and also the fact that Stefan would constantly right Damon's wrongs or fix things that Damon would fuck up as seen through out season 1-5. There is even a hint Stefan's perception of Damon's influence on him in regards to drinking blood that they draw from in the sentiment of this storyline because there it made Damon a symbol of chaos when Stefan critically and vitally needed order and structure to live as a normal vampire. Those are the story beats I believe this narrative is trying to play on. Personally, I had thought Stefan had somewhat overcome this after all these seasons. I truly believe the writers were just out of ideas atp with Stefan and wanted to change things up and so they recycled feelings of the past and made it as if he really feels this way deep down. Believe it or not.... I didn't hate it. Cuz it breaks the flawless/pure/idealistic exterior Stefan has and kinda gave him more character in this story. Something to deal with or at the very least work on himself about. Sure is it annoyingly not the Stefan we have known thus far, almost feeling like the writer betrayed the character in a way... i get that but i can't help but simply like Stefan's character/actor going through moral quandary arcs for his character development even if its forced loool

john segun doe

@malu SPOT ON!!! He feels guilty for believing deep down that the only way to live happy is to be free of his brother, whom like you accurately stated has saved, fixed his mistake, sought his redemption all even to his detriment. Damon even confirms it by telling Stefan to stay away from him and his darkness so as to not dampen his "light". It has been a consistent theme throughout the entire series thus far that they are playing on. I do ABSOLUTELY love that Stefan says FUCK ALL THAT THO, I will actively choose to continue to suffer from this Hellstone shit by not leaving you behind EVER cuz you ARE my brother. And Damon empathetically recognizes that and omits the burning of Elena's body to not further disappoint Stefan and add to the sentiment of what the Pheonix stone effects on Stefan was.

SpikesEcho

He's had only one experience falling off the wagon "because" of Damon (1912).

SpikesEcho

Damon is mangled and damaged from always sacrificing himself for his brother, yet only Stefans sacrifices (which set him back at most) are raised up as "heroics" and presented as these big-deal things while Damons are in the background never focused on. For instance, most recently, Damon sacrificed himself for Stefan a couple episodes ago when Stefan was being reckless, winding up in a hell that psychologically breaks you, and these heroics will literally never be acknowledged ever in the show. Whereas Stefan gets entire sympathetic "woe is Stefan" montages and plot points when he does something similar, and it gets paired alongside Stefan berrating and degrading Damon over what he's sacrificed for him. This dynamic in the show is what ruins Defan for me and they lean into it this season SO hard 😭

Dale LaPointe

Nah the show is great season 7 & 8 wasn't as good because DUH Nina left its still good series the issue people have is they hate what happen with the characters they ship well its part of their journey. Get over it Stefan season 1 was good guy eaten bunnies because he couldn't be a regular vampire or at least didn't try to be he went cold turkey. People complain about Caroline and Stefan because they can't get off of Stelena hands down the only reason its been dead since season 3 if were completely honest I personally like Valerie for him but even Stelena fans hate them even fans push Bonnie to betray Elena and be with Damon seriously some messed up fan bases. Enzo & Bonnie are actually the 2nd best ship in this series fan wise. The writing is good they had to pivot with Nina leaving but its still better then not having the show and these fans screaming it should of ended season 6 just hate where they took some of their favorite characters. We have begining middle and end let it go threw the whole story. Hope & Pray Nina comes back still some day because we all prayed she would don't care what anyone tells ya ELENA was heart and soul of this series it would be like Klaus leaving the Originals after season 3 instead of Rebecca coming and going !

john segun doe

@Spike I feel like that is because as characters they have different POV’s on they view it. Stefan is more a character who strives to be idealistic moral etc. and so for him I can see why it seems sooo redundant to watch his brother who views things as morally grey and isn’t so uptight about consequences make constant mistakes and having to perpetually “save the day” or fix his mistakes. Whilst I feel Damon’s POV as the big bro is different when it comes to his equally as important heroic acts. For 1, he is the big brother and with that comes a DEFAULT feeling of fatherhood adjacent protective nature over his little bro which plays a huge factor. #2, Damon is already cognizant of their dynamic, i.e Stef being the wannabe noble “Goody Two-shoe” individual actively striving to be good, while Damon not being soo bogged down by the incessant feel to be guided by some virtuous compass. And being aware of that dynamic, there’s a part of Damon that feels a sense of shame that it’s his younger brother who constantly has to clean up his messes, and that I believe plays into Damon willingly and without complaint helping Stefan when he fucks up. It’s hybrid of those 2 points i mentioned I believe empathizing with both Stefan and Damon POV one can come to the correct conclusion as to why they feel the way they feel in their brotherly dynamics. And i personally think the show does well to consistently portray these feelings from the get even through the rough patches

Olivia

i honestly forgot half the plot for season 7 so i’m so confused this entire episode like i swear the phoenix stone plot was so much better we need stefan and damon to just be okay and love each other healthily