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Nyia

Now Paul Wesley is a fantastic actor, but every time Paul had an evil character, they were all the same to me, WITH no context you could easily confuse ripper stefan for Silas for a traveler for a soul from the dagger like they all have the same feisty, sarcastic, know it all personality. Nina's characters were S tier bc you could tell her characters apart from Elena to Katherine to off switch Elena to Amara to human Elena.

Nyia

Never cared for Valerie, she was as selfish as anyone else in the show. She KILLED Oscar, her "brother" of centuries , even tho Oscar himself wasnt fond of neither Julian nor Lily, and they could have worked together to keep Julian away. She knew that the scar could be transferred, yet never brought it up because she selfishly wanted Stefan for herself, but couched that selfishness as her saving Stefan from Damon, knowing fully well Stefan missed Damon and would have woken him up any time he wanted to if not for Valerie's subtle manipulations....good riddance she’s gone. But I will give her little flowers to saving Stefan’s life…

Nyia

Bonnie always going through it! And not a simply apology from Damon isn’t gonna just magically be forgiven! He was her best friend and he abandoned her after everything they went through together, especially dying together!😿

SpikesEcho

It's now Alaric's turn to randomly express newfound hatred of Damon and rake him over the coals/make him feel awful about himself 🙄 And this after the heartfelt letter he gave Ric opening up about what he was going through.....Truly hate the writers making Damon everyone's whipping boy, esp after how he's shown up for each and every one of them while juggling his traumas and losses in the background to serve the rest of them when they've been in trouble. Let's remember what Damon "did wrong" was drop to a state of depression after the sudden loss of his partner and his hell journey saving his brother, while everyone kept telling him he's the cause of everyone's problems until he did the inevitable and took himself out of the equation. With zero friends/family ever noticing he'd reached that place.

Jennifer

Bonnie definitely felt lonely so i don’t blame her for not forgiving Damon just yet caroline has kids now and lives in Dallas so her and Bonnie don’t see each other everyday. Stefan and valarie were on the run. Matt has a girlfriend Elena is in a sleep spell so Bonnie really was left by herself she literally had no one and Damon leaving had a massive impact on her. I would go as far to say that it gave her ptsd of being stuck in that prison world all over again the loneliness and the effect it had on her where she almost killed herself.

KlausTop1

Honestly I wonder what’s went on in the writers room. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

SpikesEcho

If no one else did, Ric would have been the FIRST one to understand and not judge/resent Damon's choice in this, JUST like Damon has always done the same unquestionably for Ric

KlausTop1

TBH Bonnie should have never forgive any of her friends after all she done for them.

Jennifer

Bonnie should’ve been left that group and become friends with Vincent,Davina and Marcel cause I know damn well they wouldn’t play about her

SpikesEcho

Oscar was the only Heretic I liked 😭😭 He was a vibe

Jennifer

I really appreciate you guys pushing through this season 😭😭🫶🏽

KlausTop1

The writers wasted 4 straight seasons on Stefan character it’s been down hill since S3.

SpikesEcho

Tay always chanting the spells 😂

Jennifer

EVERY SEASON Bonnie is either dead or is going to die it’s becoming irritating

KlausTop1

The writers room had to be incredibly racist because there’s no way.

Jennifer

When I catch Julie plec

SpikesEcho

The absolute maddening JOKE of everybody resenting Damon for taking himself out of their lives in his state of depression, after they all kept telling him he was the cause of their problems, only for him to come back and his loved ones to reiterate to his face that their lives INDEED were better without him in it 🤬🤬🤬 This entire narrative arc is the WORST display of scapegoating and whipping-boy in fiction I've ever seen. INSANELY TOXIC So Damons options are stay in people's lives while they (falsely) convince him he's the cause of all the bad they experience, or take himself out of their lives as they guide him towards doing then get raked through the coals MORE for doing that as they all tell him their lives were indeed better with him gone 🫩🫩🫩🫩🫩🫩🫩🫩 Damon needs to leave alllll these people and find healthy family and friend relationships

SpikesEcho

Bonnie ranks in the group of characters who die the least number of times on the show. She's tied with Elena and others I can't say. Caroline beats everyone with least deaths tho. But several characters die wayyy more than Bonnie/their lives are treated as disposable

Margaux Ramos

That's what I was saying, Bonnie's dialogue was kinda weird like she's talking about a lover. They could have just paired them at this point if it's gonna be like that😅

SpikesEcho

Neither Stefan nor Damon jump from partner to partner. Closest are rebound examples for Stefan is Elena-to-Rebekah and for Damon Rose-to-Andie. But in terms of legit serious long-term relationships, Damon has ONE (Elena) and Stefan has THREE (Elena, Caroline, and Valerie) so far. So I'm thinking that's what Wells means

Nyia

Stefan definitely has a habit of putting his own happiness on the back burner, and sometimes his hesitation ends up hurting the people involved anyway. But I wouldn’t necessarily call him a punk or a phony for it. I think that’s oversimplifying Stefan’s character a little bit. With Elena, I don’t think Stefan simply let Damon take his girl and just accepted it. Stefan loved Elena enough to recognize that she had made her choice, even though it hurt him. He could have fought harder to get her back, but would that really have been fighting for love, or would it have been refusing to accept what Elena wanted? Now valarie saying that Stefan would never love her, he doesn’t really give her the reassurance or the clear answer she needs. I can understand why you (Joe) interpreted that silence as Stefan letting someone else speak for him. If Stefan truly wanted to be with Valerie, he could have made that clear instead of allowing the situation to speak for him. And if he still had feelings for Caroline, he needed to be honest about that too. He cannot keep avoiding difficult conversations and expect everyone to understand what he is feeling. Overall I agree that Stefan needed to speak up and acknowledge what he wants. Where I disagree is the idea that this makes him a phony. I think Stefan love is genuine but he doesn’t always know how to navigate his own happiness without feeling responsible for everybody else’s pain. That is a flaw in his character, and it deserves criticism. But I think it’s much more interesting to acknowledge that contradiction than to reduce him to a man who simply refuses to fight for what he wants.

Nyia

Simpler version: 😹 I don’t think his silence automatically means he is a coward or that he never genuinely loved Valerie. Sometimes Stefan’s problem is that he is so focused on doing what he believes is right that he fails to acknowledge what he actually wants. He can be self-sacrificing to a fault, and that can become just as damaging as selfishness….

Jennifer

Stefan and Damon both sleep around. But in the show Stefan has had more relationships than Damon

ashley kuate

I'm so done with this fuckass season🫩!

ashley kuate

No shade, but not just an evil character. Even his doppelganger, Tom, felt like just another Stefan

Zanni

Omg finally Valerie and Stefan are over😭🥳 Nothing against my sis but it was time to wrap it up. Thanks for saving Stef's life though.

Zanni

Lmao why is Wells fighting so hard for Stefan to be with Valerie?😭 It's so funny😂 Stefan was literally writing letters to another woman WHILE they were together. They only dated because it was convenient, and because Stefan had a soft spot for her due to their history. That’s literally it. In the present day, he doesn’t have to choose her if he doesn’t want to. Sometimes, silence is already an answer: he was agreeing with everything she said. SHE just had the balls to call it out and end things instead of letting them both continue settling in a forced relationship. It’s not that deep. Stefan shouldn't have started dating her in the first place; and he wasn't even brave enough to end it himself. smh. That's my only issue with how he's handled his lovers lmao.

kai

love me some benzo thats my other family on here

Angel Chatfield

BENZO finally & yes they have great chemistry. My fav couple in all of TVD and dare i say the best couple of TVDU.

SpikesEcho

Stefan low-key acting like Elena a bit, in the Stefan-Caroline-Valerie triangle and the Elena-Damon-Stefan triangle

Halima

Bonnie & Stefan okay I understand their grievance with Damon, but what the fuck is Alaric’s problem? 😭😭😭 Like I don’t really care about characters whacking Damon – most of the time he deserves it – but I need it to make sense in the story

Static

Wellz been waiting to crash out on Stefan 😂😂

Halima

I also think part of it is this is fairly new territory for Stefan in this Valerie/Caroline situation. He’s never had overlapping relationships or feelings which is why despite knowing that he loves Caroline more, he probably felt like leaving Valerie now after everything would be a bigger betrayal than simply being honest with her so she can hopefully find something better.

KadeTheGreat

Im with u wellz should’ve stayed with val

Halima

IMO all of the main characters suffer from the poor writing of these later seasons but Stefan definitely gets it the worst. His best seasons were s1-3 which says a lot. I don’t think these writers understood how to write and develop his archetype at all.

Heatherlicious 82

He did! I honestly felt like everyone Nina played was different enough that you could tell wow she really can make this 500 character different. I mean even playing Katherine impersonating Elena… she definitely deserved more pay.. Warner brothers fault

Heatherlicious 82

Paul directed on of my favorite episodes of Legacies I don’t know if he did more. I know him and Ian both directed in TVD and TO I believe.

ashley kuate

Stefan's had way more serious relationships like let's be real lol. Damon's slept around but he's been in love with two women in his life

Kay McRae

The argument at the end lmaooo. Listen, all I’m going to say is at the end of the tvd and the ultimate episode, I really hope joe’s entire perspective of Stefan changes because yes he is a lover boy and yes he very much so does have his punkish moments but his respect for people, his caring self, his empathy, his maturity, and wisdom,(esp with his lovers) his deep love for his brother is all together, just what makes Stefan Stefan to me. So I just hope Joe comes to see that in the very end and realizes that this is what makes Stefan the BEST character/person in the show.

Iliks

Stefan was also with that Ivy girl in S6🤣 I'm with you Joe. So far he has gone Elena > Rebekah > Katherine > Ivy > Caroline > Valerie > Caroline like it’s madness

Zanni

But I'll always love my Stefie poo

Zanni

💯

Jennifer

They are definitely my favourite couple in tvd and in my top 5 for best couple in tvdu

Kay

“I don’t know what he was” always gets me, if Delena didn’t happen. It would always be Bamon !

taj harris

Silas and ripper Stefan felt completely different

Kay

I understand both points, however I do agree with Tae with the the Stefan situation.

Lou

i have a question this may sound dumb but I know julie is racist but if she’s going to do that why cast her in the first place like they could’ve picked anyone for bonnie (I love kat) but if they’re gonna do her dirty like that why didn’t they just cast someone else instead from the beginning that’s what I never get about when a show is racist towards an actor bc they’re the ones who hired her

Jennifer

Hidden racism they obviously had to have someone of colour in the show so if she didn’t cast kat it would’ve been another black female and they probably would’ve went through the same thing I also believe it was jealousy from Julie plec that’s why she constantly made Bonnie wear wigs and had her character missing for a couple episodes . All the men casted in this show have a close relationship with Kat and they often voiced how beautiful she was they even voiced how they wanted their characters to have a romantic relationship with Bonnie e.g klaus,Damon, Nora ,Kai ,Stefan ,matt. And I feel like it just caused racism and jealousy with majority of people in the tvd crew . I say jealousy because look at the amount of coloured people in to and their characters haven’t suffered as much as Bonnie like Marcel and Vincent even the black actress that portrayed Rebekah

Jamal Bayliss

Wellz u mad foul with this take lol

Jamal Bayliss

He has been living with regret his whole life. He runs from it but its always there, regret when he was alive and when he became a vampire.

Jamal Bayliss

Aim that magnifying glass on ur boy Damon wellz with this much energy

pnk

Im not a fan of Rick rn but I actually can understand him not wanting Damon back in his life. It sucks but it's not "random" to me. that whole mess with Jo probably put a lot into perspective with Rick. Damon had his reasons to sometimes put Jo's life in danger but at the end of the day, that wouldn't matter to Rick. Bc for Rick, he had his reasons to try to protect Jo at all costs. Damon sometimes interfered with that. I also remember him snapping Rick's neck. Again with reason, but not everyone has "unconditional love" like Stefan and Elena. I saw this friendship crumbling from miles away. Especially now that Rick's a dad.

Jamal Bayliss

Receipts love the comments u picked tay

Jamal Bayliss

Who took Alaric's 1st wife and Elena's bio mom. I forget hmmm

SpikesEcho

Do you know you're describing Damon or do you think you're only describing Stefan lol?

Tina

What’s so wrong with Stefan wanting to be with Caroline? Remember caroline didn’t ask for Alaric babies that’s something that just happened to her. Caroline and Stefan was fine before the babies and before he got marked Valerie was just a filler girl he had history with. And also Caroline didn’t break up with Stefan she simply said no to running with him cause she had the babies that she just had gave birth too why would she leave them? Stefan broke up with her that’s why he’s writing letters apologizing. This is why Alaric said Stefan broke her heart cause he did just cause Caroline said no to running doesn’t mean she played a part in the break up that was Stefan decision and let’s not forget Stefan told Caroline when she was pregnant he don’t care how weird things got he was gonna stick beside her but then he breaks up with her cause he seen she was happy with the babies ? What did he expect? Anyone would be happy for a chance to experience kids especially a vampire. That’s why he feels guilty and is writing her letters he never got over her. And I find it funny how Caroline and Bonnie are both Elena friends everyone hates Caroline with Stefan but is ok with Bonnie and Damon getting together 😂

Dwayne Townsend

I definitely think .. the feelings bamon had were deep even for friends .. there was a love tension in some scenes .. if there was no Enzo I coulda totally seen them happy together while Elena slept ..

Dwayne Townsend

I don’t get why Valerie didn’t syphon Damon while she did the spell .. atleast enough so he doesn’t die

Trae Young Supremacist

i kind hate what the writers did, bonnie and damon had such good chemistry after the prison world arc and it seems like they just didnt want that to last.

Jamal Bayliss

Oh its both but they act out in different ways, one withdraws and the other lashes out.

María

Stefan’s relationship with Elena lasted until 4x06, when they broke up. Stefan was still very much in love with Elena in Season 5, which is why he kissed Katherine while she was in Elena’s body. We only got to see him in a relationship with Caroline after Liz died in Season 6, and that was also the season Nina left the show. In Season 7, Candice left the show temporarily because she was pregnant, and that’s when Valerie came into the picture. Stefan is definitely the loving boy and the more mature one. That’s why he takes his relationships seriously.

María

As a Stefan fan, I agree with Joe. Stefan should have never let Damon insert himself into his relationship with Elena. The fact that he became Delena’s therapist in Seasons 5 and 6 is my worst nightmare. It’s definitely not realistic at all. They ruined all the main characters because of Delena in the later seasons. That’s why TVD peaked in Seasons 1–3

SpikesEcho

Again, both have those responses tho

Spazztastic

Damon's been in love with two women in his life.....and they both had the same face, mannerisms, and ultimately, the same selfish desires. Sorry, Delena even as it's written in the show is NOT true love and it's obvious the women who wrote it as such have never actually experience love if they think this is a good representation of it. It's transference. Damon's feelings for Katherine transferred onto Elena in the very first episode of season 2. Why do you think Elena saying that it was always going to be Stefan mirrored exactly what Katherine told him? He went to Elena AFTER Katherine turned him down because Elena was always his Katherine replacement. Stefan was the one who wanted to and DID see the differences and fell in love with her despite her looking like Katherine. You ask me, the woman Damon truly loved by the end of the series is Bonnie and Ian would agree

Diane Rodriguez

Heavy on the "Damon fans very passionate about his character" lol

ashley kuate

I'm sorry but I respectfully disagree. Damon started falling for Elena in season 1, and he knew she was nothing like Katherine as early as 1x03. Remember the kitchen scene in that episode where Elena empathizes with him over losing Katherine? That's when he knew she was nothing like her. And their connection develops throughout the season, and in like 1x19, at the miss mystic falls dance, Damon realizes just how deeply he feels for Elena. This was BEFORE Katherine even returned. Katherine's rejection didn't create those feelings...they were already there. And i genuinely think Damon trying to get back with Katherine was his attempt to return to something familiar rather than confront the fact that he'd fallen for Elena. Katherine rejecting him forced him to face reality, but it didn't create his feelings for Elena. He also gets with Rose later in the season, temporarily of course but it was a genuine connection, and even she could see just how much he was in love with Elena. Then he gets with Andie as a "distraction" (something he explicitly mentions in the show). He was long over Katherine at that point btw, so idk how there's any "transference" there. And honestly, if we're going to argue about which Salvatore loved Elena partly because she looked like Katherine, Stefan's initial attraction to her is a much more interesting conversation. But Damon? The man appreciated Elena's individuality from the beginning. He fell in love with who she was, not who she resembled. Lastly, Elena is NOTHING like Katherine. She will never be as selfish and cruel as she was. She was in love with Stefan, then she wasn't and it's really that simple...which is exactly why their relationship ended. And the Bonnie argument is tired, too. Damon absolutely loved Bonnie, but it was platonic love. Different kinds of love exist! He loved Elena romantically and Bonnie platonically. If you don't like Delena that's fine, but there's no way you watched their buildup all the way to season 6 and think it was anything but true love from either ends

Spazztastic

the way Joe doesn't understand that Steroline was a victim of poor writing and a glaring lack of chemistry is forever hilarious to me. Julie Plec was such a racist expletive that she refused to let Bamon happened despite it OBVIOUSLY being the better pairing for a friends to lovers trope. especially since Bamon started out as enemies so it would have been an enemies to friends to lovers and we could've had it ALLLLLLLL. Let Stefan be the one waiting for Elena's ass to wake up or something

Tjbosslyfe

We know the whole arc of Damon that's why we ride so hard for him. But we having fun going on this journey with you two. He's went from terrible person to hero . To screw up . Trying to stay true to his character. Early seasons Stefan telling Elena Damon was the worst thing on the planet. While he was worst . That's why people ride so hard for him. He not hiding who he is . Stefan kept the dark part hidden from Elena she stumbled upon it in his Journal.

Nyia

Yeah Wellz u been waiting to crash out on Stefan! But the thing is Valarie did him dirty just remember that… and Caroline doesn’t love Alaric, she’s just there for the babies so why is it messed up for Stefan wanting another chance?! She can still be with the kids and be with him if that’s what she wanted…

SpikesEcho

Kat's missing from episodes and has choppy story arcs in the beginning because of her music touring schedule. Candace is missing from several episodes too though idk why for her. Kat's music doesn't fit in the show, but I kinda wish they would have gotten a reason for her to sing....she mentions liking karaoke so that was an avenue. They established Caroline being a singer early on, so it made better sense for her to get more random singing opportunities (mothers funeral, humanity off audition, etc), but Bonnie singing wasn't established early on. Would maybe be a bit weird to have two main characters breaking into song sometimes tho....Idk even tho Bonnie likes karaoke she just doesnt seem like that girl when we get to these later seasons. As for hair, showrunners have to go by what the network/studio final say is, and Kat made clear when she talked about her hair in that interview that she's never gotten to have her natural hair her entire career (very broad acting and music career). The wigs in tvd sound very much like a network/studio decision - those higher-up people that orchestrate everything - as this was something ubiquitous to Kat's experiences in media.

Spazztastic

Hi so Julie Plec isn't an casting director and for your FYI, Julie Plec didn't want Kat in the role but the CW wouldn't greenlight an all white main cast. It was so disgustingly apparent that Kat Graham was even bullied by one of the episodic directors who told her that she was a mediocre actress who was only hired because of what she looks like.

Loki

Benzo is such an amazing ship, it's the best ship of the entire TVDU in my opinion.

Jennifer

I know she was bullied by one of the directors which is absolutely disgusting but I remember l researching when I first watched the show and who was involved in casting kat and I remember seeing Julie Plec maybe Im wrong but I had no idea they only hired her cause of her looks

Tjbosslyfe

Taye I get your Stefan relationship points. Not the comment point tho. He mentioned Stefan best friend as a relationship of Damon . That's was a fake trick by Damon to pay her back for trying to put his emotions back on. That was not a relationship. That was Damon playing the long game . An being his evil self at that time . The reporter counts. Rebecca was a one night stand him using her while he wanted Elena. It has been an always has been Elena .

SpikesEcho

Wait, I forgot Kat DOES have a song played on TVD, my bad. Not an original song but she did a cover of a Garbage song and they used that in S2

Jennifer

She was on tt live with her husband a couple days ago and she spoke about it

SpikesEcho

Spazztastic - the second you said something so wildly misogynistic as "the women who wrote it have never actually experienced love", you lost all credibility over any and all of these subjects 👎👎👎 And predictably, it was all downhill after that

SpikesEcho

Isobel did. She literally took herself out of the human world because she wanted to be a vampire life

SpikesEcho

Damon was Elena's soundingboard with Stefan, with him always vouching for him and not letting Elena lose faith in him. It's the formula of the show.

Jess

Tay cracks me up because she ain’t letting anyone disrespect her Stefan. 😂

Dwayne Townsend

Damn Rip Patrick Stewart 😭 Professor X has left us .. atleast you got to experience him before his time was up on this earth Tay

Jamal Bayliss

Not in the same ratios but go off

SpikesEcho

....following Isobel's instructions.

Miloš 🇷🇸

Between watching these two series with you, TVD sure has a lot of car scenes, it’s in every episode

Dwayne Townsend

At the end of the day Stefan ends up with who he was supposed to which is pretty 🔥

Dwayne Townsend

Let’s not forget Stefan dated the girl in Savanah Georgia Enzo turned …

Miloš 🇷🇸

12:44 yes Theyre gone appreciated them as the time went ur over it

Jamal Bayliss

Damon always does that historically

Miloš 🇷🇸

Bonnie’s character definitely PEAKED her being the 😎😎😎😎😎😎

Miloš 🇷🇸

Watching this with hope and no idea what happened with Valerie. I hope she makes it

Tjbosslyfe

That's not a relationship . Relationship an just hooking up not the same.

Tay's Cup O' Joe

Yeah coming from Alaric is was like…. Why?? He came back from the dead annoying anyway

Jamal Bayliss

Specifically i was drawing the parallels btwn the consequences of pusuing relationships or hooking btwn Isabel and Caroline in regards to blowing up Alaric's "relationships". Is Damon getting a pass because his attachments are deemed more frivolous to him or he treats them that way. I don't know but we know damon isn't always honest about how much people mean to him at the time. Just something to keep an eye on

Miloš 🇷🇸

I hope Valerie lives and finds her own future

Ak2004

They mentioned Lucy Bennett in this episode but don’t know if you guys remember this or not remember the witch that was helping Katherine with the moonstone in season 2 the masquerade ball episode that’s was Lucy Bennett

Miloš 🇷🇸

I’m glad Valerie got to live on and find her life. Idk why but it’s nice to know she went out to explore what our world has to give

Miloš 🇷🇸

Stefan should’ve fought harder for Valerie , she didn’t deserve him

SpikesEcho

They don't endure the same experiences, so it won't shake out one-to-one the same

john segun doe

One ACTUAL REAL scene of Benzo and Joel folded LMAO. Benzo no jk got chem frfr. One of the few relationships in TVD that had me TUNED tf in like a teenage girl lmao back when it was airing. Yo I also luh when Joel got some criticisms on Stefan, even when he is being serious at first, he knows that it's slowly gettin on Taylor's nerves. You can even see the shift with Joel from serious critical analysis of Stefan to hyperbolic O.D Slanderous comments about nothing in regard to Stefan in the same rant. He can't help himself lmao & It always gets to Taylor and I just be dying. (laugin hysterically as i type this) Highlights of this Post ep rants: "Relationship hoppin" "Stefan stupid face" "Casual Sex vs Intimate Relationships"

María

Stefan and Elena babysitting Damon is anoying as hell

john segun doe

Been a min too lmao. He been keepin under control but thats Ripper Wellz, bro gotta crash out on Stefan

Jamal Bayliss

Similar experiences like friends betraying them, them making rash or understandable decisions that puts them at odds with their brothers "friends" i.e. Enzo , klaus,

Jamal Bayliss

Was Oscar the same actor from The Mentalist?

Branime

Tay wasn’t wrong about the twins helping Valerie they didn’t actually have to participate in the spell she could have channeled them but i forget if they would feel the side effects of the spell like Val did and we know Ric ain’t going for it lol

Timothy

Joe is just ragebaiting.

SpikesEcho

Damon deserves the care after multiple seasons of energy he spent always babysitting both Stefan and Elena

Tay's Cup O' Joe

I think Bonnie and Damon would be great together if he never got with Elena. And we just don’t like him and Caroline it just currently didn’t feel as “real” in our opinion. Not mad at Caroline being a mama though ever!

Aurora

Damon has shown Elena is the only one for him for seasons atp. Bamon would be weird for his character to suddenly no longer love Elena

Vanessa Navarro

I agree. Nina's characters are felt different because of the mannerisms and their way of walking.

Tina

Yesssss I agree Bonnie and damon we’re together in the books Julie fumbled with that storyline smh they would’ve been great. And I can see why yall feel the way yall feel about steroline their chemistry can be a bit better but I also feel like they didn’t really get a chance to grow their connection as a normal couple it was always something happening to interrupt what they had going on. But yall opinions might change when yall finish the series 👀😉

Vanessa Navarro

I LOVED Stefan in season 1 and even in several moments for seasons 2-3, but I definitely lost love for the character seasons 4-8, which is such a shame because he was one of my favs.

Vanessa Navarro

You forgot the girlfriend Stefan had when Damon and Bonnie were "dead".

john segun doe

@Tay This bet not be Wellz respondin 👀🤣

María

Let’s be honest, 80% of the problems were caused by Damon himself. He can’t constantly create chaos, make reckless decisions, and then expect praise for cleaning up the messes he created

María

Ian himself ship Bamon

Kayla Pagan

It's rough to be a stefan fan huh tay 😭