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Attack on Titan S04E15

This is "Attack on Titan S04E15" by Kat & Sonny on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.

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Paras

that lil moment of yalls during the op was so wholesome man

MrBo2

Memory erasing and sterilizing are not exclusive abilities of founding titan imo. They seem to be both part of biological change/control founding commands over subjects of ymir.

Jim Nasium

I want someone to look at me the same way Kat looked at Sonny this episode

Je_Maraj

Subjects of Ymir and Eldians are synonymous. They all have the ability to turn into titans

Raiyan Islam

Just some clarifications. Anyone who can transform into a titan is a Subject of Ymir. Eldia was the empire that consisted of Subjects of Ymir. Hence all Eldians are Subjects of Ymir. Now the Eldian Empire doesn't exist anymore but the Subjects of Ymir/Eldian are used interchangeably. And another thing, Memory erasing isn't strictly a "special" ability, the fonuding titan can manipulate the physiology of Subjects of Ymir as if they were all connected to the coordiante. Implying, how the memory would get erased is by manipulating the Neurons so that certain memories would be erased just like the founding titan changed physiology to get rid of the plague that spread 600 years ago.

kavus Latifi

I think even if the founder can make the eldians “normal” (cant turn into titans) it doesnt change the weight of their ancestors the rest of the world would throw at them and the continuation of suffering. The history of the eldians ancestors is a big part of the suffering of the eldians as seeb many times in this season

Maia Brodsky

In general, Eldians are Subjects of Ymir. Eldian is just more of a reference to the nation of Eldia, whereas Subject of Ymir refers to the blood shared by the Eldian people. For most intents and purposes, they are interchangeable.

ForxBase

Zeke's plan is the only plan that guarantees long term success. Making Eldians unable to transform will not stop the racism and stigma around them. As long as Eldians exist, they will be treated like slaves by all the other races. Even if they can't transform. So Zeke's plan is the only "peaceful" plan with a 100% success rate: Making the Eldian race go extinct "peacefully" in a 100 years time.

??

We say you shouldn't be able to tell someone whether or not they can have children but of course we have conditions for this. I'm sure most people can understand population regulations, stopping a child from being born in an abusive environment, or not having a kid if you knew it'd have birth defects. We also talk about the choice of the "parent" but never consider what the child being born will think. Like Zeke and Mr.Ksaver for example, both wish they where never born and I think that violation is just as serious as sterilizing someone. Most people brush that off and think something is wrong with someone if they don't want to exist, that feeling festers and creates more problems. Having a child is a gamble in any world and we do our best and hope for the best but the best rarley happens. An all we can do is go 🤷🏾‍♂️ that's life kid it's not fair but I HAD to bring you into the world because I wanted it.

ForxBase

Notice how this show makes you think that Zeke is the most heartless of them all, feeling no remorse at all when killing, etc. Then this episode drops, and whatever your personal take is on this plan of his, it clearly shows how Zeke really is the one with the most compassionate goal in mind.

Franz

27:07 very important point here

Meg B

First off, Kat looking at Sonny lovingly during the opening makes me want to believe in love again. Second, I giggled at Kat's outraged "Nooo" when the episode ended because I remembered my own frustration knowing I had to wait one week to know what happened to Levi (one week... heh :') )

RED Ferr

just started watching the reaction, you are both beautiful human beings in many ways ;-)

ForxBase

I actually agree with Zeke's way of thinking. If your standard of living is high enough for your child to have a good life, and you know that you have what it takes to be a good parent, go for it and have children. But if your standard of living is miserable and you're gonna be a bad parent, and your child will get a miserable existence, you shouldn't be allowed to have children. You're basically torturing your future child at this point. Absolutely unacceptable. Like killing for survival only, procreation is one of the most fundamental things to life. That doesn't mean it should be allowed or endorsed in all scenarios.

DM Punk

I agree with your guys' discussion at the end- it's very conflicting. I always like to bring the parallels back to Marley= Nazi Germany and Eldians= Jewish people during World War 2. Sterilizing the Jewish people (a lot of them were) is so fucked man- because at the end it is straight genocide. Because other people don't like a certain race, is it right to phase them out? Dunno, I just can't get on board with Eren/Zeke, but I can understand where they are coming from

Laladybug

I rarely buy patreon tiers but this is an amazing ride with you guys! The way Kat kept looking at Sonny saying "you're so pretty" my heart melted. :( All the best to you guys!

OIAIO

A lot of people are saying that all eldians are subjects of ymir but that isn't exactly true. Most are but in season 3 it was stated that there are noble bloodlines that aren't effected by the founder and I would definitely consider these people apart of eldia. The Ackermans also aren't subjects of ymir while still being eldian. They're a family from a different ethnic background than subjects of ymir that was altered by titan science to give them abilities to protect the king like eren said in his talk with armin and mikasa. This is why Uri couldn't use the founder to read Kenny's mind in S3 because they're not actually connected to the paths via the founder, they're connected to the paths by their subject of ymir host(Erwin for Levi, Eren for Mikasa).

Gu

As an anti natalist myself I do agree with Zeke's plan

rayolaser

Really enjoyed your discussion in this one!! I'm not a Zeke fan at all, but I have so much sympathy for him as a kid. I wouldn't say Grisha and Dina didn't have love for him but they were terrible parents for sure, he deserved a better childhood (but in this show not a single character gets that lol). That being said, I'm still against him and his "euthanasia plan", that's just a slow way to commit genocide, and while I understand his motivations, to me his way of thinking is really patronizing and messed up, like him saying "I didn't steal, I saved lives" is... a bit concerning lol. Whether life is worth living or not is something that each person has the right to decide, it's not up to him to make that choice for everyone else, even if it's for "the greater good". I just find it disturbing how disposable other people's lives seem to him, can't forget how much he enjoyed killing the Survey Corps and how he turns Eldians into titans to use them as weapons. Not cool Zeke 😔👎 oh and he blew up my boy Levi in this one, double 😔👎 for him. Great character though!!! grateful to have this kind of antagonist in the story, he really gets you thinking.

Kristy Cheuk

side note but your future child/children are incredibly lucky to have you two as their parents. the mindset and point of view you guys have on these serious and heavy topics highlight how great of people you are. 🖤

Andrew G

as a wise man once said, find someone who looks at you like Kat looked at Sonny during the opening theme song in the full length Patreon feed reaction to Attack on Titan season 4 episode 15: Sole Salvation. That shit was cute as hell Also: I keep wondering that same thing about making Eldians incapable of transforming into Titans altogether instead of sterilizing them and doing it that way. Like a lot lol The discussion about that got me thinking; they said the Founder Ymir was was the very first Titan to ever exist... and she split into 9 Titans after her death.... if the Paths all lead from "the Coordinate" TO the other 8 Titans, and vice versa the way I understand them to... I wonder if maybe the only way to truly eradicate the ability altogether is for all 9 Titans to return to their original state as a single entity and just... cancel Eldia's subscription to You Could Be a Titan Too magazine lol idk