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Even More News: Buddy, You Told Her To Her Face! - AD FREE (Patreon)

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2024-06-07 18:14:27
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Hi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan try to piece together the ins and outs of the new ceasefire proposal. Plus, they discuss the impact of the Trump guilty verdict on the November election, Biden's interview in TIME, and Trump's lie that he never said Hillary Clinton should be locked up.

0:00 - Intro and Holidays08:53 - The maybe ceasefire deal17:34 - Biden and Trump: Master Communicators26:32 - Trump verdict fallout35:34 - Biden's border executive order40:43 - NYT focus group of undecided voters49:25 - Trump says he never said "Lock her up"

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Kev Bednarz

I love this show so much

moo

When Cody says they skipped recording the commercials, I made the exact same sound as Jonathan Edit: and shout out to Katy's "why"

Burrito

Yo, I literally just got a TV-VCR combo and ~80 VHS at an estate sale. And growing up I had dozens of Simpsons VHS. Ahh, memories of when The Simpsons was more than fanfic of The Simpsons. Dead serious, if y’all want VHS digitized, I’ve got the gear and know-how, and I’ll do it in exchange for guitar lessons from Cody and/or Patreon perks.

Steve Snyder

I would propose that the people Katie sees motivated by Trump‘s conviction were actually just quietly voting for him before, whereas now they’re more vocal about it. I’m on Cody’s side. No matter how jaded a view one may have of this country, and rightfully so by the way, there is no way 34 felony convictions are going to gain Trump ground.

Vanessa Walsh

I still remember the joy of catching a favourite song on the radio and recording to cassette tape, sighs. For vhs I was never quick enough to catch many things, doing it for 10 years is a feat!

Steven Smith

I suspect the "I never said lock her up" is specifically about getting people to repeat that slogan. It won't change anyone's minds, so it's irrelevant if it's a lie. IMO, it's just a ploy to bring that slogan back into current events.

Jon Gellott

Voting for South Park, the deep cut Community reference from Cody for the win.

Carlos Martinez

Thanks for saying what should be said more, on both points that appeasing to stopping immigration doesn't work (because it's a net benefit to countries as a whole, especially with aging populationa), and that the average person who isn't a bougie doesn't see any relief or raises despite the gaslighting rhetoric. It's really infuriating that the world bases it's realities and politics from the lenses of people who either aren't being taxed enough or have leeway to not really feel a difference (or have things better for them while ignoring the ways the poor are suffering). This main character energy from bougies is maddening but immigrants like me have always noted this only to be ignored or have the subject changed lol. Too much egotism/narcissism while hurting immigrants, the giddiness in themselves is among the ugliest behaviors I've ever seen in people lmfao. What great thanks and appreciation to the people maintaining society

Marie Strange

The other day my Dad was complaining about Trump conviction and used his advanced age as a reason it was uncalled for. All I can do is laugh, because he will never see the double standards around everything his camp believes. I want to vomit about it.

Marie Strange

It really is very interesting to me that people tie the cost of goods with the president. Why?

Tamara Roberson

Obama had a "red line" for Assad as well that didn't mean anything.

piers w

It’s not just Jonathan; it’s Even More Jonathan!

Jake Laack

I really hate that Biden is the best we can do and also the best we can HOPE for come November.

Chris Hanson

One thing I’d like to push back on is that I felt like there was a bit of an implication that even though he said “Lock her up!” that once he was in office he didn’t try to. I think with all the things that have come out about the Trump administration, it’s pretty clear that the reason she wasn’t pursued by the DoJ was because of the people in the DoJ—including his Attorneys General like Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr, as horrible as they were—adhering to at least a minimal standard of rule of law and departmental independence. He’s made it abundantly clear that he will populate his administration (and the federal bureaucracy) with the kinds of Project 2025 sycophants who will jump at his every instruction no matter the legality, Constitutionality, or norms. That’s why I consider a Trump win in November to be an extinction-level event for American democracy: Because he’s come right out and said it would be, and so have the people who will be in there with him. Which in turn is why I consider a vote for anyone but Biden, as awful as he is, an endorsement of Trumpian fascism.

Hefefloeckchen

no twitter, no instagram, no music :/

An Oni Moose

Reminder that, /unless/ you live in a swing state, the idea that "a vote for anyone but Biden is a vote for Trump" is /simply/ false. (There's a more complex argument to be made about swing states, but I'm not going there.) For instance, California has the largest Electoral College delegation of any state, and Biden is going to get it, *no matter what*. How can I be so confident? Because Trump lost California by a *2:1 margin* both times; in 2016 Clinton got just 200k votes short of double Trump's, and in 2020 Biden got *over* double Trump's votes. This means that it is *mathematically impossible* for third-party votes to throw the state to Trump, even accepting the false premises behind that argument. Even if every vote for California's ballot-qualified socialist party (Peace and Freedom) were taken from the Democrats' column - go ahead and do that with the 2020 election results. Set up a spreadsheet starting with the actual results, take one vote from the D column and add it to the P&F column, and keep doing that until Trump comes out ahead. The results may surprise you! Put it another way: even if *everyone* who voted for Bernie in the California primaries in 2016 and 2020 had voted P&F in November, Trump would *still* have lost by a 3:2 blowout margin, *and* a socialist party would have gotten *2 million votes* - the Electoral College result would have been unchanged, but it would have made a lot of noise. If you live in a swing state, you have a tough calculation to make, and I do not envy you - and I'm not going to argue with you from my privileged position here. Instead, I'm going to use my privilege, and try to convince others similarly situated - in California and any other state that is a lock for one party *or* the other - to do likewise. A vote for Biden in California out of fear of Donald Trump is a wasted vote; it's spitting in the ocean. *California's Electoral College delegation is going to Biden no matter what.* So if you want your vote to actually count, statistically, it's much more effective to vote "third party" where it will move the needle a much greater percentage.

AEPSchmitt

I love the guests you usuallt invite on the pod, but it's also great with a guest-free episode sometimes