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Hi. Some More News writer Helen Floersh joins Katy and Cody to talk about Joe Biden deciding not to seek re-election, the Democratic Party coalescing around Kamala Harris, the effectiveness of attacking Republicans for being "weird," and Elon Musk's needlessly cruel interview with Jordan Peterson.

Video Link: https://youtu.be/4XiXNtNgRgE

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Gabe

Holy shit I’ve been waiting to see what y’alls thoughts on Joe Joe bowing out. I was for sure he was going to stay in the race. What little i respect about Biden, I respect his decision to give power up when he did not have to. Thanks for all yous do

Gabe

Bleeps?

Andrew B

Brat summer is no more

Bree Pail

Move to Minnesota I promise we are very normal and cool two of the new state flag designs that got the highest number of public votes was a loon with laser eyes and just a jpg of someone’s dog

Steve Snyder

100% agree with Cody. I am done treating these fucking Trumpers with kid gloves and acting like their opinions are as valid as anyone else’s. They aren’t. These freaks cannot articulate an opinion on any matter because they either do not inform themselves or absorb information. They have an idea of the way the world is and their place in it and they will modify reality in their own minds to protect those beliefs. They only have magical thinking and conspiracy theories, because they have been primed their entire lives from evangelical bible school and a completely failed education system to believe that the creator of the universe loves them more than the other team, whoever that may be. We as a country have collective societal values, the good shit they teach in elementary school, sharing and inclusivity and honesty. These fucking republicans have abandoned all of those. They do not engage in honest debate, they are not honest actors, and they are not reachable through logic because being on the right side of any issue is not what they care about. They care about expressing an opinion that sets them apart from whoever they see as their opposition. They disagree with us because that’s what matters to them. They are broken, unthinking, and I’m fucking done holding back my disdain for them.

Pablo Barría Urenda

Back when it was Joever, I was afraid I wouldn't get to test my really pessimistic scenario: Trump loses and they make him the president regardless. Supreme Court + house fuckery + knowing this time around that there are no downsides to attempting a coup, paints a pretty grim picture. I guess we'll see now.

The Boustrophedonist Bricoleur

So what, Katie, if Vance isn’t off-putting to Trump voters… nothing is, for them. It’s not the Trump voters we have to convince. It’s those in the middle. And for them, there’s lots to dislike about Vance. We just have to help them see that.

Thalandor46

There were a couple moments in this episode that eluded to something between Harris and Netanyahu, but the topic got side tracked before anyone could elaborate. I haven't heard about this, what exactly happened there?

Cory

The all beef diet literally put Peterson into a coma.

Julia Wykes

As a Canadian can I say thank you to Cody for saying Appalachia- I have never been sure how to pronounce it and I didn’t trust JD Vance’s pronunciation!

BennyL

Will SMN ever talk about third party/socialist candidates? I feel like we come so close in a lot of episodes but just never quite say the "S" word... But I bet you guys know it would be a good direction to go in, maybe the channel is not ready to get into it yet? Thoughts?

Jess Hrudey

I feel you Helen on having a last name that no one is sure how it should be pronounced

CLUEPAC

dammit. Missed Bagelfest Day.

L. Ron Cupboard

While I agree that the Harris campaign should not be bringing up brat themselves, and should by no means try to stoke any Memes with a capital M, I do think they should point out that Trump, Vance and all hard core Trumpists are Weird. Weird is hatefully mysoginist and otherwise firing all guns against the most powerless. Weird is power fetishism that causes some to emblazon their big trucks with artwork of their hero done up ala Boris Vallejo. Weird is grovelling at the feet of a man who maliciously denigrated you and your family in the past - after offering no apology - babbling about their enemies trying to take their steaks away. Yes, there are other words for it, but something approaching truly demented and not in a good way captures it well in a new environment defined by brevity. I was on the fence with the idea but was convinced by Josh Marshall, the other half of my two favorite political commentators. Here's his post about it (I think its behind a paywall, but someone on your team must be a subscriber, I figure): https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/vance-kamala-sucker-punched-us-and-it-was-so-not-fair If "Weird" grows legs, I can't think of a better person to explain Just What Is So Weird About Trump?

Cameron Corday

Can we have the uncensored version of the podcast on patreon? Not a fan of the beeps…

Marie Strange

I love yall, but it makes me so anxious when yall talk over each other.