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Way Less News: BookTok Smut, Love Is Blind, and Dylanology (Patreon)

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2025-01-03 19:22:31
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2025-01-03 20:08:32
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Hi. We'll be back next week with all-new episodes of Some More News & Even More News, but to finish off our holiday break, here's a new episode of Way Less News where Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss their hyperfixations, trashy erotica, romantic leftist blindspots, and Timothée Chalamet.

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQE_hrTkuY

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Dylan

we are so back

Armando MC

Immediately brought my wife over once "BookTok" was invoked. Currently laughing at Cody's takes. Best podcast of 2025.

Pablo Barría Urenda

I now need Cody to read and give us an honest review of The Name of the Wind, a beloved book that I found to be a paint by numbers drag that did not even had much smutt to make up for it.

Naomi

the booktok consumers have been raised or re-raised by algorithms and fanfiction

Timothy King

Rings of power! All the people who hate it cause it’s “woke” are dumb but as a Tolkien fan I hate it but I’m gonna watch

Tue HL

I think the Anne Rice vampire novels were the YA novels of our youth. Don't know if the category existed officially back then, but that's how they're labelled now on library shelves.

Vanessa Walsh

My fav combo with waffles is to put melted cream cheese on with a bit of maple syrup- feels more like a meal! As for smut, I think one book that sticks out in my mind is Collide by Meagan Hart (I dont think ther are any gray men?) But most smutty books imo are fluff and on a 10 point scale don't get past a 7

Alice Lewis

I cannot wait for the upcoming episode that I assume will exist, called Mike Johnson is Still a Scary Little Freak.

Fabian Rosdalen

Are you familiar with Dropout and their show Game Changer - where they have some episodes that take on the concept of reality shows, here's (just the opening, I don't think the full episode is available outside of their streaming platform dropout.tv): https://youtu.be/NarEddGJPFc?si=7Od4YCAoDcM6Jv7y Where they take on bachelor. I never liked reality shows because of all of the negative drama and unlikable characters and I never thought it was possible to do good reality shows without that. BUT, turns out, you can! I just love how absolutely wholesome they have managed to do reality shows while still keeping them interesting and dramatic! I highly recommend the one where they have competitions and vote out each other, and the one where they're in an escape room, as well as the mentioned bachelor episode. Maybe not to everyones taste, especially if you like all of that negativity, but for the rest - give it a try! ;)

Sarah

In regards to the booktok conversation: I agree with you completely that these books are paint by numbers stories that are also poorly edited, but I don’t think it necessarily means anything about our changing attention spans. Everything new is old, and these books, to me, merely seem like the newest iteration of cheap pulp fiction. We’ve always churned out cheap, formulaic, easily accessible smut, and this is just the newest way we’re doing it. I think it’s more of a problem that the marketing of these books obfuscates (intentionally or not) that they are, in fact, pulp fiction. Like, give it a smutty cover so everyone is clear that it’s a fucking bodice ripper book. We even have terms like bodice ripper specifically for that purpose! It’s fine that these stories are out there and easy to find, I just think it would be better if we were crystal clear that they’re basically erotica.

Carlos Rocha

I really loved less news. Bringing me into the corners of the internet that I don’t make time for and seem way more interesting when you three talk about it.

deadkitty

Love these chill episodes when it's all just too much news and politicking going on. Take care of yourselves and do them more often, they're great xo

AEPSchmitt

Assigning media to certain arbitrary categories as a substitute for any deeper analysis, might be a side effect of what a lot of academia has become. When you remove all creativity from any subject, what you are left with is categories and cataloguing.

Jordan

Awww Cody, have you seen a porn site? Don’t they have all of hashtags of what tropes they feature? I don’t thing it’s much different. People have their yums, I don’t think we need to hate on smut.

Mark Burger

Library guy of 20 years chiming in-- there's certainly an evolution. We used to have a "teen" section for ages 13 - 18 (for basically ever-- this is what you'd find in your high school library's fiction section), but as the books got more mature, around the mid/late 2010s, that section morphed into "young adult" and the mature content kinda seeped in and became more 16+-ish.

Greggleblom

"extreme enemies to lovers" just means hate fucking? I'm both confused and intrigued by the genre specificity