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Ro Khanna on Medicare For All, Bernie, Economic Populism, and JD Vance - AD-FREE (Patreon)

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2025-07-11 19:05:01
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2025-07-11 19:36:47
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Hi. Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna joins Katy, Cody, and Jonathan to talk about the most devastating impacts of the Big Beautiful etc. bill, his belief that economic issues will help break the Trump spell, and why some Democrats are afraid to go on TV and hard-hitting podcasts like this one.

NOTE: Apologies – there was an ad in the first version we uploaded. Should be fixed now!

VIDEO VERSION: https://youtu.be/UImr7JXKm04

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Tom Macfarlan

Just started listening, hope you hammered him on his unwavering support for Musk and Thiel

Dylan

His takes on Israel, crypto, AI, Elon, congressional stock ownership, the fact that he's an investor in Palantir all suck really bad.

Zack Spiller

Yeah, I’m not a fan of this both sides of the fence type pussy - footing around. This guy seems like more of the same with a few exceptions. I wish the patreons could have had the chance to submit some questions so he could hear how the people feel about his views

Josh V.

Worthless neoliberals... Obama would have won by a landslide... Great so he could get everyone in their feels, sell them a letdown of the same ol neolib BS and we can get a worse fascist than Trump after that? This guy's another out of touch wealthy prick who doesn't have the spine and willingness to weather the hard times to get the things done we need to get done. He knows his betters, the silicon valley donors who keep him in office, and he's not going to bite the hand that feeds. If he gave a damn maybe he'd hit JD with his Nazis are Americans if they "fought for this country" with a rebuttal about how many active servicemen who spent more time taking enemy fire than JD ever risked as a desk jockey were rewarded with deportation when they got back home. Absolute scum on the right, period, and the center libs are lipstick on a $#+ covered pig. Hallelujah, Jesus Chris, where's the Tylenol.

Alex R

I guess unpopular opinion, but thanks guys for trying to challenge Khanna on his pretty questionable statements from the past and from today. I understand why people wanted you to go further and I partially agree, but I don’t think it contributes to a valuable conversation to immediately start debating this guy and not allowing normal flow of dialogue.

Johnny A

I'm sorry I can't with this. What a useless interview. You all are great, I just can't stand Ro and his no stakes bullshit

Leo Puppytime

Your collective silences after letting him wax on were absolutely screaming. What was the point of this episode? I do appreciate what pushback you did provide though.

Eagle Chee

Saying that “Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state” is the equivalent of saying “Germany has the right to exist as a Nazi state.” And it infuriates me to no end that there are ‘progressives’ out there who still feel comfortable with regurgitating these platitudes as Israel continues to live stream its Hitler-like genocide. I appreciate there was a bit of pushback there.

justjukka

Does Jonathon have a PO Box? I wanna knit him a sweater or something. I don't know how to knit, and I doubt he needs one, but I need to show my gratitude for his tenacity, in this interview.

Joseph A.

Come on, Cody's exchange with Mark Cuban years ago was more confrontational & productive than this. Next time you have a guest who's a politician or businessman, please open submissions for Patron questions.

Michael

Why did you all platform this clown? I’m super disappointed and would have preferred no guest

Oofty Goofty

Kudos to Jonathan for asking some actually challenging questions and for kinda pushing back on Ro's absolutely awful takes on AI and Israel, but if all three of you are not going to actually be combative with these people, all you're doing is platforming them. This interview was a miss for me. Seriously, you let him say that Israel should be a Jewish ethnostate that also has equal rights for Palestinians. THOSE TWO THINGS ARE INCOMPATIBLE. He, like Berine and AOC refuse to say the word genocide or condemn the state of Israel; all they have is some mealy-mouthed faux outrage for Netinyahu's human rights violations. Wether Ro takes money from AIPAC or not, he's still afraid of the Israel lobby, and nobody called him out on that.

Alex R

Okay sorry but you guys let him just say that religious theocracies are okay without any further criticism. What are we really doing here? This was a huge miss.

Garrett Broters

We (we) regularly call out these deep rooted systemic issues, and when a person of semi-power is in your webcam presence you all mostly completely fold?? It’s so so so brutal watching Palestinian death on our feeds every day. but when some fuck ass democratic progressive starts talking about the right of religious theocracies you all fold?? Glad to hear another DNC puppet do the dance and hear more “we’re trying!!!” talking points we all literally complain about every day. Don’t interview politicians if you don’t want to actually ask them real questions. Kudos to Johnathan for actually pushing back and trying to get some sort of answer. Fuck.

EFB

Everyone has said practically everything for me already. I'll just add that I stopped halfway through and this is the first episode of EMN that I have no interest in finishing. Garbage lib shit. If y'all brought a fraction of the passion and outage you bring to SMN issues, this dickhead would have left the interview rightfully crying. Not your best work.

Jimmy Ho

I agree with everyone else's thoughts about platforming a person with silly takes on Israel, AI, crypto. But I will say, I can understand wanting to pushback on stuff like this but then basically feeling uneasy with it when given the chance. It's not like the SMN crew are trained for confrontation. Idk, it's complicated 🤷🏻

Alek Gent-Vincent

Jonathan was awesome. So glad he was there to push back and ask more confrontational questions.

John Scigulinsky

I think I came out of the Ro Khanna interview thinking we shouldn't lose the separation between podcasts, entertainment and journalism. SMN is a show that combines journalism (the reporting side of it) with entertainment. "Here's a bunch of information, let's tell it in an entertaining way". EMN is a fun podcast about current events. "Here's what happened, let's talk about it, make some jokes, invite a comedian to join us". However, none of this prepares you for a guest who is a politician or holds power in any way. This, I think, is the same problem Joe Rogan has. Joe Rogan has a huge platform, but he's not a journalist. Even if he wanted to, he can't ask hard-hitting questions, fact-check or push back. I mean, he could, but that's not what his "Experience" is about. Ends up platforming a ton of weird people tho... So ultimately, I think it seems like a good idea to have a politician on, but it also requires a whole skill-set that you may not have or you just don't wanna be mean and ask annoying questions. But then that leads to platforming someone with questionable (at best) views.

Sam Larson

Khanna is a genocidal monster.