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Hi. In today's episode, we talk about the killing of Charlie Kirk, the right-wing response, and if it's still possible for anyone to "practice politics the right way."

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Can We Talk? - PATREON

Hi. In today's episode, we talk about the killing of Charlie Kirk, the right-wing response, and if it's still possible for anyone to "practice politics the right way."

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Davis Heister

Oswald? I thought Bernie killed JFK?

James Whong

It's a really difficult balance to strike between demonstrating empathy and holding people accountable and I think you guys nailed it. Thank you for not whitewashing like so much of the media.

Matthew Morris

Genuinely one of your most impressive episodes. It's always difficult to make entertainment about the news these days, and you guys always strive in doing so. But it was really smart to lean more into the seriousness of the subject matter for this episode.

Vanessa Walsh

Finally off work and can catch up on the Newses! What a great title . I don't even know what this episode is about yet, but I had to say!

Lucy

1 hour EMN and 1.5 hour SMN this Friday like it's LOTR marathon but more despair (same handsome bearded guy everyone loves, pretty lady of rivendell/the mountains and fan favourite trying to save it though)

ks

Rachel Gilmore (who you highlighted just around the 43 minute mark) is a Canadian Journalist who's been pretty critical of the far right elements of our own country, tying some of it to influences of our lovely neighbors down south. It feels sorta.. weird to se a Canadian journalist as highlighted for what I'd personally consider a pretty milquetoast position. Regardless, for those Canadian viewers of your show, they maywant to take a look at Rachel Gilmore's own youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@AtRachelGilmore).

MakeItRayn0r

Cody your musical sting made me really happy while i'm grinding my team in FFT Ivalice Chronicles big love youse guys Stay good stay strong stay safe

Vanessa Walsh

Gonna try to get the guys at work watch this.

James Faucher

If you watch the gun enthusiasts on YouTube, they make a compelling argument that the guy is not the real gunman, and that note appears to be an FBI plant. It's so terribly done.

Suren Perera

I didn't find the video of Kirk dying to be that distressing, its nothing compared to the horrors I've witnessed happening in Gaza. This is just the new normal of our sick world.

Rodger Gamblin

Oh man, you really had me with the song. That was an appropriately short non-ad break, and I appreciate it

Bryant Adams

Fantastic video! I wish I could get my conservative friends to watch it.

Lula Hiigel

Y’all knocked it out of the park with this one. A deft tightrope walk of empathy and accountability that needed to be made. Thank you for making it. 💜

Zach High-Leggett

Rachel Gilmore's appearance on the Charlie's Murderers site deserves more context. She's a Canadian journalist and after she made her post (and before she appeared on the site), she was called out by Canadian Member of Parliament, and former leader of the federal opposition party, Andrew Scheer. It's possible she was put up on the site after being literally targeted by a member of the Canadian government. https://x.com/AndrewScheer/status/1965880154175189241

Chelsey Kendig

Ha! I also said it was like the Reichstag fire.

Steven Smith

I never understood the "liberal tears" thing. I mean if Ben wants to drink salty bodily fluids, I guess I shouldn't kink shame.

Evie

No we can't talk anymore. I think that's why I love my nostalgia so much now. Like someone would say a weird conspiracy theory they believed, everyone was like haha that's weird ok. But that's it. And it was a harmless conspiracy theory, it wasn't a conspiracy about a entire groups of people wanting them gone or anything.

Lula Hiigel

I just read some of the YouTube comments on your public version, and I gotta say it’s pretty disturbing to read. Way too many people are actively pushing for an escalation of violence, and the amount of people calling this video “centrist” as a means of discrediting the idea of basic human empathy just kind of underlines the video’s point. Again, y’all did a good thing with this video. De-escalation IS what’s needed. You don’t stop a fire by pouring gasoline on it.

Alexander

Ben Shapiro: “I never thought it would get this bad.” Ben Shapiro literally ten seconds earlier: “I have twenty four hour security. I’ve had twenty four hour security for a decade…”

Zack Spiller

I literally don’t remember this video because I am so happy Warmbo is alive!

Vanessa Walsh

Saw this last night, still thinking bout it. So we'll done, y'all <3 they're all perfect episodes but this one is perf! 🤌

Diana

i didn't finish this one, I 'm not sure what it was but I got a panic attack thinking too much and had to turn it off I don't know if I'll finish it later,

Iain Docherty

Genuinely just exhausted by this whole discussion, seen far too many people defend political violence because "the time to be nice has clearly passed" as if anybody would actually benefit from increased tensions (I'm begging these people to research early 20th century Japan) and I kept having gifs of the actual event show up when I was trying to browse Twitter EDIT: Very glad to see Warmbo is back, even if it was a truly bizarre moment for him to come back

Hezekiah

Thank you so much for this. I've struggled to put my feels on the whole thing into words that so clearly express that "this person didn't deserve a horrible public death" and "this guy advocated absolutely heinous reprehensible things" are not contradictory ideas to hold. I know this wasn't intended as a Yom Kippur sermon but it functioned as one for me. Thank y'all

Armando MC

Feel like a broken record saying this but....this might be your best episode yet

scottmacs

The man who lives a life without making enemies isn't a cog in the machine; he is grist for the mill of authoritarianism.

The Big Shakuna

I know this comment has nothing to do with the episode, but I just wanted to say that I really appreciate Katy for the wellness check during the "ad break". In these really dark times it's good to know that there are people out there that truly recognize that we aren't alone in the feelings we feel and try to make us all not feel so alone. Thanks Katy.

Alexander

You’ve articulated something close to what I’ve been saying pretty much ever since Charlie Kirk was killed: While I certainly wouldn’t say that Kirk “brought this on himself”, because — again — no one deserves to die like that, this is a direct result of the very polarization that he fostered every day of his career as a public figure. Charlie Kirk fanned the flames of division and got burned. He virtually raised and fed the very leopard that wound up eating his face. It’s almost as though, while it was the bullet that killed him, he actually died of irony poisoning.

Eric Herde

Some people callously celebrated the terrible murder of Charlie Kirk, just like other people callously celebrated the terrible murders of Yahya Sinwar and Sayed Hasan Nasrallah. None of these instances of political violence should be celebrated, and when I hear people condemn the former, I think, “yes, that’s true, but did you have the same condemnation for these other assassinations?”

Eric Herde

Every left or liberal public figure who is being falsely accused of killing Charlie Kirk needs to use the Trump playbook: sue for defamation.

The Boustrophedonist Bricoleur

Here’s a question, though: when does mere speech become direct incitement? Here’s another: when incitement results in systematic violent action further reinforced by speech, how are we expected to respond? By chanting “political violence has no place in America” when we are surrounded by it? (I recall and entire war was fought against fascist states and nazis.)

Pablo Madoka

It is definitely way better for everyone that Kirk will never be able to hurt people again, which is what he dedicated his entire worthless existence to, rather than the incredibly microscopic possibility that he would see the err of his ways and stop being an evil pedophile

Tim Hodges

Wow I absolutely love these patrepn comments and could not agree more with how great this episode was to watch! Really glad that I can support you guys and see something good be put out into the world!