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EMN: AI: “People Hate The Slop” (Patreon)

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2026-04-17 20:58:08
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2026-08
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Hi. On today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan talk with Ed Zitron about Allbirds, Anthropic's Mythos, and other A.I. stories. After that they dig into JD Vance's fight with the Pope and Pete Hegseth sharing his favorite film quotes.

VIDEO VERSION: https://youtu.be/hzJvooFnrKk

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Destro

The opening scene with Ed's work showed my favorite band, it was kind of a jumpscare. Soundtrack: The Dillinger Escape Plan — Setting Fire To Sleeping Giants

Liam Howard

So down to no birds whatsoever

Lela Andrews

Cody, I know you always mean well and I say this with love... Do not lose your mind and interrupt Katy when she's making her point!! If it helps, I believe it will always be funnier if she has to acknowledge you while you are obviously about to burst before you let your well-intentioned thought out for the rest of us to enjoy ❤️

Steve Snyder

I’m not gay, but I could listen to Ed talking all day. No nonsense calling out bullshit from Tech Bros and a delightful accent. Great guest.

Steve Snyder

I prefer Samuel L Jackson’s work in his capital one commercials. Master class in acting.

Travis Ferguson

Funny I was just thinking the same thing except I would be a right-wing podcaster just talking up Israel seems to be a lot of money there too.....I mean I could be evil.... maybe

Travis Ferguson

I am a pissed off veteran living in SC . I want to own the seat of Lindsey. Help me please.

Andrew

Fantastic guest, please have him on again

Xan Morice-Atkinson

Experienced academics in mathematics are now able to extract novel solutions from the latest LLM models. Unsolved conjectures that are decades old are being solved in weeks. When the first two computers were networked/email was sent, people would have said "Ok, but I could have just phoned that person?". Now we have the internet. When the first electric lamp was lit, people would have said "yeah but I have this oil lamp which works great". Now we have electrical grids and computers. We are in that stage with AI - the stage where we have the invention, but no infrastructure or mature applications of it. Capitalism fucking sucks and does its very best to poison and strangle this, but I am begging people to realise that they literally can't know exactly how it will be useful. But I am betting that the fact that AI is better than 99.9% of humans at maths and code *is important*. If you are an expert in those fields and learn how to use this tool, it is the biggest and most useful invention since the internet - it isn't hot air. So many other things that are nowhere near as consequential have survived and thrived in this worst timeline. Please find someone to interview that is able to use AI to that level. Not a tech bro, but someone that knows what they're talking about.

AEPSchmitt

If you want software that actually progress and don't enshittify, you have to do the work and change away from Google/Apple/big tech. It's not easy, but it is the only proper solution. Be an active, political consumer and punish big-tech by switching to Open-Source Alternatives. There are tons of guides and assistance out there. Tomorrow is too late, make the switch today!

Dan M

All your guests are good but Ed Zitron was great. I'd like to hear from him more frequently, very informed and informative.

Setzer Studio Arts

excuse me, how does a company lose 4 BILLION dollars? you can see that much money from space

Trepaura

I really hate that the hype train somehow isn't derailed yet. People keep coming to me and saying that AI tools are becoming more accepted in programming circles. Microsoft released a new paper that says the more an AI touches a document, the worse it gets. Multiple passes don't reduce problems, and running multiple tasks against the same file slowly corrupts what is supposed to be there, and it's impossible to avoid. It's just all bad, and now that the pricing is going up I have to keep telling people that the price hike hasn't even come close to letting them break even on run time costs, which does not include the insane cost of developing the LLM. It's a crap technology and I'm sick of knowing more about it than the people saying we should use it.