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How Did People Become So Bad At Watching Movies? - EARLY ACCESS, AD-FREE, AND UNCENSORED (Patreon)

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2026-08-24 20:17:14
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2026-08-24 20:19:26
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Hi. On today's episode: Movies! We talk about movies. Specifically, the changes in Hollywood now that "Obsession" and "Backrooms" were big hits while the new Star Wars flopped, why media literacy when it comes to movies has gone down the drain, and why the Right is so bad at just watching movies normally. Note: this episode contains spoilers for "Spider-Man: Brand New Day," "Obsession," and "The Odyssey."

YOUTUBE LINK: https://youtu.be/-8bKCvdtwv4

Comments

Aaron

Wait, spoilers for The Odyssey? But how could we have had enough time yet to know thw ending when it's only been around since before the Calendar existed?

Matt Alten

I can’t wait for Spiderman 5: The Hulk’s Son

Nathan Kinsey

I wonder if the formulaic nature of movies contributes to conspiratorial thinking. I often catch myself watching things and internally predicting events simply because it makes sense for the story I know the filmmaker is trying to tell. It seems like it could be easy to apply that same thought process to real world events and end up with conspiracy theories.

Nathan Kinsey

On the subject of mid-budget passion projects, you should watch "Man and Witch: the dance of a thousand steps". It's a kooky passion project where a husband and wife play the leads in an 80's style adventure movie. It's flawed yet delightful.

Fel

Odd to compare Madame Webb, which is a result of Sony-Disney co parenting arrangement for Spider-Man IP, with choices of Marvel and super hero fatigue.

Katie

Thrilled to know SMN is a “movies” brand fan. Now I can wear my own movies hat and imagine I’m twins with one of you somewhere!

Burrito

Nah, Millennials just objectively aren’t old. We’re right in the middle. The 5 generations that exist, largely, are Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, Zoomers, and the kids after Zoomers. If being in the middle is old, the term is kinda meaningless, like when people say that San Francisco and Santa Cruz are in Northern California. San Francisco is barely north of the halfway point, Santa Cruz is in the bottom half. These terms are based around absolutes, not in relation to 20YOs who can’t rent a car or Los Angeles. If being middle aged is old, then there’s no middle, and that’s silly. If a city in the bottom half of a state is classed as part of the north of that state, it’s meaningless. This comment brought to you by Plato and Adderall and putting off chores.

Eric Herde

Regarding 36:04, not only did Palpetine unambiguously die at the end of Return of the Jedi, but Maul also unambiguously died at the end of Phantom Menace. I enjoyed Solo (even though it wasn’t a great movie), but randomly resurrecting Maul was the harbinger of Star Wars’ downward spiral.

Xynthoros

Why the hate for Mac and Me?

Vanessa Walsh

Done work and now for my SMN treat!

Vanessa Walsh

Yessss leaving room for doubt in art omg thank youuuu exactlyyyy! Like. What if these moving pictures created thoughts?!?

Josh11

I love how you... Inceptioned me with that episode of Way Less News, which prompted me to watch Obsession last weekend, so I could better enjoy this episode of SMN. Also I am so excited for genre films to come back.

David Black

I hate to break it to Cody, but I’m a 50-year-old man with a nine-year-old daughter and I took her to see Masters of the Universe. And she loved it

Timothy King

Brand new day as you tell it was way better than the actual movie. Every single part with the hulk, punisher, and “the villain” suffered from being ham fisted into the larger MCU. The villain’s identity was distracting, the hulk created a bunch of plot holes, and the punisher isn’t even the same character from the tv show

Lucy

I’m ignoring the fact the background has been gone and nothing feels right about that to say another issue that happens over here [outside the US] is that for the past two years we’ve been getting movies WAY later than the US releases, which means people can’t be bothered spending the insane money on movies after the hype, among other things. And I’m excited for the Wyle E movie but guess what! Yes it’s coming out a month later when kids will be back at school and no one else will give a fuck, except I, I will give a fuck to Mr Coyote and save the film industry!

Casual Fox

Cody cruelly teasing that long awaited SMN sequel

The Moat

thank you for finally saying it

Josh11

This made me really worried about the movie/show adaptions Brandon Sanderson is making of his books on Apple TV. His entire thing is he basically made a fantasy book "MCU style" universe before the MCU was even a thing. Now by the time he's finally able to adapt it to screen with full control, people are sick of MCU style stuff. Who knows, maybe he'll revive the genre, though honestly I think it's all gonna turn into BS culture war discourse.

Jphilli

I think what keeps marvel from truly shining ( aside from the previously stated) is it's reluctance to let their characters politics breath. I don't think most marvel movies leave us with anything to chew on, besides bad man go down. thats why I'm nervous about X-Men. I think Spider-Man speaks to people because he makes his choices from the same position as most of us. Spider-Man rises to the occasion even though he's often broke, depressed, and struggling to carry that responsibility. The dilemmas Peter Parker faces are things we see everyday and encourages us to make the right decisions, to give people second chances, even when, and especially when, things are at their lowest. Peter often turns away the temptations where we'd faulter, and we know he still feels every bit of it. It is a challenge to us to be better people, even when we're not praised for it. Civil War didn't really explore the ethics discussion and just kinda made Capt. Right and then changed the movie to be about Bucky specifically. We never really get a payoff to tchallas revelations after killmonger passes. Honestly, for as powerful as wakanda is, we don't see any changes in the world after revealing itself besides the fight over vibranium ( did they share other technology? are they making a path for victims of colonization to obtain safety, an education, etc.? Is their a exchange program?) We never really deal with how the world changes after falcon & the winter soldier, and the death of all the flagsmashers. Did they "do better" and what does better look like? For all the movies, we don't understand what the universe is really like. We don't really know where most characters think about at all. I don't know how they'll deal with the X-Men if they aren't willing to handle any of these issues, because ultimately the X-Men are revolutionaries.

Andres Rodriguez

This is the type of media analysis I LIVE FOR. MORE OF THIS, PLEASE

Chibigodzilla

I will argue that the Star War that destroyed the franchise was the first one; it got execs so hooked on the idea that Joseph Campbell's Hero with 1000 faces + Sid Field's 3 act structure = $$$$$$ that it did severe damage to the format that movies (and Star War movies in particular) could take.

Corey Barnes

If art becomes as plentiful and obtainable as cheeseburgers, it shouldn’t be a surprise when people start treating them like cheeseburgers. They want to go to the counter and say “My The Odyssey is too woke. Make it again.”

Noah

Somehow quibi returned

Steven Smith

I know I'm now old as a millennial, but when I'm down I think about Ozzy's career. After Sabbath, he started his wildly successful career as a solo artist. At 40 years old. +1 hope! Huzzah!

Daniel Simon

I loved the Katy fill for the add! I loved my visit to Hawaii. I have felt your pain on leaving an amazing vacation. I hope you all at emn enjoyed your vacations!

The City in Exile Podcast

The end of Mandalorian Season 2 destroyed Star Wars entirely for everyone I know.