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Trump's Clown Hall, Confusing Psyop Theories, and EVEN MORE Limericks - AD FREE (Patreon)

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2023-05-12 17:34:04
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2026-06

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Hi. On today's episode, Katy and Cody discuss the civil verdict against Donald Trump, his abysmal town hall on CNN, and how much evidence you need to declare someone a Nazi. Also, Jonathan's back! He talks about what it's like being a new dad and why parents in the U.S. deserve so much more from their government.

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Sean Piper

Didn't realize yesterday was Eat What You Want Day, but I did anyway. Had some delicious Thai curry

Estance DH

Hearing 6 weeks to me, it's east germany time (they had excellent child care services, but very fast/cold for parents), way too short from my perspective. It's 4 months in France.

Estance DH

In criminal justice history, it's been a widespread practice to downgrade charges in order to get a conviction on sexual violence in France, father raping his child being convicted for "atteinte à la pudeur" (indecency). Judges did that because the all male-juries simply would not condemn other men for rape, no matter the circonstances (to keep with the incest example, the jury would render a ruling that the defendent was not the father of the victim, he did not rape the victim, yeah, they were so indecency). The Trump ruling was probably such a compromise. It's normal that it bothers you.

Deborah Labun

I was perplexed by the finding re rape too, but I saw some coverage that called back to an interview given by E Jean Carroll, in which she said she didn’t consider herself a “ rape victim”. Her friend, speaking with Lawrence O’Donnell the day the verdict came out, speculated that Carroll’s comments had to do with the association of “rape victims” with “damaged goods”, in Carroll’s upbringing. In Canada, where I live, I think we’ve dispensed entirely with that word in the criminal law context, in favour of “sexual assault” as a category including what used to be specifically referred to as rape. Makes convictions easier, I understand.

Gretchen Hintz

Agreed that the more likely conspiracy is that the NRA planned all the shootings to make more gun sales. It's more plausible than the alternative.

Autistic Goblin

I really appreciate the discussion about parenting. This was bringing up a lot of very vivid memories of that Fourth Trimester. I wanted to give Jonathan a big hug in these trying times, because it is the physically hardest time, but it gets (physically) easier! ❤️

April Hughes

We are living in some really disturbing times, and they continue to get moreso. Oh well. Feel better, Katy! Love you guys!.

CARRIERHASARRIVED

hope you feel better katy, the 'vid sucks dick. get some rest, and dont forget that you're pretty great!

Ashley Dryer

I'm so glad Katy is recovering from Covid 💕 Thank you for taking some time to discuss it with the perfect balance of seriousness and levity to get the point across without letting it drag you into the depths of depression. So many wonderful people were lost to the virus and you didn't downplay that. Thank you and I hope you are among those who get to make a full recovery 🥰

Ivan

I wanted to let you all know that this episode reminded me of “The Serpent’s Pass” from Avatar: The Last Airbender. I’ve been so bogged down by everything from not being able to be as physically active as I once was because of my new job to the current state of politics from the perspective of a gay and seasonally brown Mexican. I spent so much time just staring at the worst parts of society and feeling so angry about everything. I was driving home from work listening to this. Hearing Jonathan say that through all the sleep deprivation and pain was “this love we never even knew existed” gave me so much hope. I’m reminded that there’s still love in this world. Thank you guys for taking the time to have that conversation. I wish all of you the best 🩷

Jez Bel

The jury did not hold Trump liable for the rape item due to lack of enough evidence to support the charge. In New York, I believe rape requires penatration, and the evidence provided was not enough to prove penetration occurred. As it always is in court, there is what actually occurred and what can be proven. Based on how the jury ruled, I think they took their job serious and followed the law. They took under 3 hours to deliberate to come up with an unanimous decision, which was an extremely short period of time.