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Protests Don't Need To Be Civil - EARLY ACCESS, AD-FREE, AND UNCENSORED (Patreon)

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2023-05-31 18:05:06
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Hi everyone. This is next week's episode, but we're giving it to you today!

We're looking at the constant calls for "civility" during any protest movement and examine why those in power always criticize protesters for not doing it "the right way."

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Protests Don't Need To Be Civil - EARLY ACCESS, AD-FREE, AND UNCENSORED

Hi. In today's episode, we look at the constant calls for "civility" during any protest movement and examine why those in power always criticize protesters for not doing it "the right way." Executive Producer - Katy Stoll Directed by Will Gordh Written by Erik Barnes Edited by Gregg Meller Produced by Jonathan Harris Associate Producer - Quincy Tucker Post-Production Supervisor - John Conway Researcher - Marco Siler-Gonzales Graphics by Clint DeNisco Head Writer - David Christopher Bell Check out our MERCH STORE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/somemorenews SUBSCRIBE to SOME MORE NEWS: https://tinyurl.com/ybfx89rh Please fill out our SURVEY: https://kastmedia.com/survey/ Subscribe to the Even More News and SMN audio podcasts here: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/some-more-news/id1364825229 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ebqegozpFt9hY2WJ7TDiA Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/even-more-news Follow us on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/SomeMoreNews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/SomeMoreNews/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SomeMoreNews/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somemorenews Chapters: 00:00 - Intro 01:34 - Why The Powerful Always Think You're Protesting The "Wrong Way" 13:20 - What Is The "Right Way" To Protest? 16:02 - MLK Jr. And Non-Violent Protests 21:52 - You Know Who Isn't Civil? The Supreme Court And Cops. 31:00 - What Should Be The Appropriate Response To The Removal Of Our Civil Rights? 38:40 - Why People In Power Really Love The "Civility" Debate

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Paige Harrington

“Corned cream” “…stop saying that.” “Is there a problem with Warmbo saying ‘’Coooirned cream?” and then I lost consciousness Long story short - he’s dead. Warmbo’s dead. And he deserved it

Adam Lynch

Quick, Cody! Ferret your writers away before Hollywood comes and takes them!

Strawberry Puptart

They absolutely can't be civil, but crucially there must be a strategy for furthering your goal. You will always have detractors, but a protest should have some goal with a tangible outcome. If all your protest does is make people angry, without some demand people can act upon to settle your grievence, than people can dismiss you. Even if you're demand is unlikely to be acted upon, you have to give the target of your protest something they can do.

Thereal_VanWalsh

Lol the garbage-compactor-from-star-wars vibe but with corned cream aaahhh! But many questions like, can you swim in creamed corn? could it go through straws?? Does he osmos to ingest?!? He's already damp, that would help. What's the story, eh? *excellent episode ty nom nom*

Robert Daniel Pickard

If folks haven't heard Atlanta police are arresting the people running some of the bail funds for Stop Cop City protesters. For "financial crimes"

Jason Luckey

Another fantastic episode. Fun fact, I got shot with a rubber bullet during the Brionna Taylor riots in Louisville. Was I doing anything other than chanting and standing in the middle of Market Street at 11pm? Nope. All hail the LMPD for “keeping the peace” against peaceful protesters with a riot tank, rubber bullets and tear gas.

Andrew Carkner

The 1971 book Rules for Radicals has a really good discussion about this

Steven Smith

Why do people talk about drinking liberal tears? I mean if right wing extremists really want to drink the salty excretions from my body, I have several other flavors available.

Cheerful Nihilist

LMAO! Sounds like they want a "conformity" err "civil" way to protest? Isn't that oxymoronic?

Dylan

I participated in the protests in Portland, OR where unwanted federal officers (sent by Trump) deployed tear gas and brute force to disperse the crowd each night… what do you do against that? I wish we were organized enough to hand out our own riot shields and batons, and overrun those fucks like a Roman formation… leaving them cartoonishly tied up in circles a la Batman

Daniel H

MLK said rioting is the language of the unheard.

David Dieni

The first thing these sickening disingenuous pricks cowardly hide behind, is the feigned indignation of those that use profane language to deride and belittle those who call them out on their profane and inhumane actions. Protests and writing of petitions are accepted modes of opposing policy because they amount to asking pretty please, that they then basically ignore, just as they did with the launching of the war in Iraq, though 70% of Americans were against the war. Lets not forget the Princeton study that reported that public opinion is never considered in the passing of new bills into law. If these pricks are "our representatives" why should we ever need to protest, are they not meant to be administrating on our behalf? We are all familar with theses lines from the declaration of independence, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness", but for some reason not so much with lines further down in the same paragraph.."But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." We seem to have forgotten to claim our natural right, and our duty to future generations, in getting rid of the low life despots that are in government today. Only slavish fools obey laws that the government ignore as a matter of course, and that renders them as illegitimate by default.

Carl P Crossgrove

It's a mistake to believe that religious extremists on the right are sincere when they snivel about civility. Well, when they open their mouths at all. The civil rights abuse and slavery-cheering isn't compatible with feigned hurt feelings and "mature calls for decorum". It's all a performance to shame, dissuade, wear down, distract and bamboozle, so they can contintue to disenfranchise "others" they hate. Taking their fake complaints seriously is a huge blind spot on the left.

Naren Hazareesingh

I’m so curious if your team considered mentioning Andreas Malm when writing this is episode! I know his ideas might be a little too radical for even the leftiest amongst us, but I think his perspective of “a radical flank makes the demands of the peaceful protesters seem more reasonable” to be quite compelling given the history of protests in this country. And for anyone who doesn’t know who he is, look him up! Also go see the movie loosely based on his manifesto “How to Blow Up a Pipeline” because it was really really good

Yithian

Hold up, there are different flavors of corn cream?!

Thereal_VanWalsh

Warmbo talking about violence is adorable x'D

Dustcult

One of the most troubling trends I've seen are plain clothed police officers inciting violence during protests so that their uniformed buddies have a reason to crack-down on the protest. How do we combat this when even the uniformed police aren't held accountable for their actions?

Burrito

One time at Cracked I got not-quite-scolded for too many Simpsons references in pictofacts. I like them golden age Simpsons. Keep it up!

An Oni Moose

Perhaps this is addressed in the study, but I detect a causality issue with the "peaceful protests are more effective than violent protests". From my own admittedly non-scientific observation, almost all protests are peaceful up to the point that the police attack them - that's how almost every protest that "turned violent" did that. So what the formula might reflect is that the protests that don't get attacked by the police, for whatever reason, also tend to get what they want; or to put it another way, the protests that call for things that don't evoke a violent reaction by the powerful are also more likely to get those things. But again, I haven't looked at the study itself; maybe it controls for this?