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Hi. In today's episode, we look at the right-wing moral panic surrounding drag queens, the nonsensical laws many states are trying to pass, and the ways in which grifters are trying to use the panic to attack the rights of LGBTQ+ people.

And here's the full essay that's referenced in the second half of the episode: https://sites.middlebury.edu/sexandsociety/files/2015/01/Rubin-Thinking-Sex.pdf

(We're trying out Patreon's video player, but you can also watch this video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/FDv_VxeVcL0)

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Joooooooood

I certainly hope so... I've been stuck with this one for over 12 years

Nick Ulanowski

I want to watch this on my TV. Where’s the unlisted YouTube link?

C. Colleen

I know I'll love this just from the thumbnail image. You all are truly brilliant. 143

Naren Hazareesingh

Please don’t stop posting on YouTube! Patreon doesn’t have an Apple TV app and airplay is too finicky

Ava

I don't know how you manage to keep pumping out quality content with such speed. Kudos!

Jon Gellott

great fucking episode you guys

Trent Hanson

I can’t express enough how much I love when you drop each new episode. Seriously makes my day, or at the very least a great hour of my day (plus dose first few rewatches yo). I’m a little drunk and emotional right now and maybe somewhat incoherent but I fucking love you guys. You give me hope.

Matt D

love the idea of getting to avoid youtube/google. think you can convince patreon to add "theater mode", where the video expands to be the same width as the window?

Made of Stardust

Thanks for including the youtube link. The patreon player doesnt work well with moble and headphones (at least for me)

Isaac Comer-Wyrd

Please keep listing the youtube link in the description. I don't mind having to go one extra step, but I'm not super into the patreon video player. -- More precisely, I'm not into the concept of patreon having a video player-- unless there's some chance they can give youtube serious competition in which case I'll support it.

Autistic Goblin

I don't know why, but your little Patreon ad break notes make me feel warm and fuzzy. And I really want to see more Katy. Maybe she can have her own show, like The Katy Hour that's like a 10 minute rant. You two have great screen chemistry, too. Thank you for somehow being the most wholesome news show on YouTube.

Jackie Rekowski

My closest brother and sister and I grew up with our upstairs neighbor being a homosexual prostitute (who was a wonderful person!) and it did not harm us in any way.

Keith Wood

Thank you Cody. You look beautiful.

Jackie Rekowski

I enjoyed the Patreon video player BTW, I was able to expand it to full screen and it worked really well on my Linux build :)

Jackie Rekowski

Also, love to see Katy doing some of the commentary!

Thereal_VanWalsh

Do you feel bonita? Cause you look bonita <3 (also ty for an equilibrium mention) amazing perfect episode

crafty_geek

Adding another "thanks for continuing to include the YouTube link" to the chorus - Patreon doesn't seem to play the audio in the background when I need to switch to another app for awhile on mobile, like YouTube does

NickyT

Excellent as always. The Patreon Player worked fine for me

Carl P Crossgrove

Love how Katy just had major puke face at Cody getting the film reference wrong. Cementing Cody’s hetero cred. Also love that you discussed former enslaved black cross dressing badass Swann, showed some of our funnier and more erudite current queens, and gave props to those and all the other historical queers for fighting on the front lines. People don’t necessarily get it, but the fascists absolutely will not stop at drag story hour, as idiotic as that already is. They’re going after birth control, talking about dress codes, and drafting legislation that gives women zero control over their reproductive health. They're never going to stop, and the response is definitely not “waiting to see what happens”…. We already watched that movie. Kudos on a consistently hilarious and engaging episode and especially kudos to Katie for falling through the floor, on her neck, while keeping 2 shotglasses full of party juice.

April Hughes

I wouldn't mind it if jazz was banned. I can't stand the stuff, I had it forced on me at guitar lessons in my youth. That's the only reason I would love to see jazz banned. And also I'm joking about banning jazz, but I'm not lying about my feelings for jazz, As always, love you guys!

Rob Jobin

Oh no, patreon videos, end of an era. I liked just having it in myyt watch later. Oh well, thanks for the video still.

Stephanie Kay

Oh my god. Cody, if you love us, please don't let this be the last time we see you in drag. SO lush.

Michael Young

Watching Katie stifle a laugh at Cody’s “That’s from Hook” warms my heart.

Jess Hrudey

Cody, you are so beautiful! What’s your drag queen name?

Chibigodzilla

lol, "Erotic DMZ" gonna have to start using that instead of "trial separation" when I talk about my divorce

Steven Smith

I believe only his friends call him Dick. He prefers to be called Richard Clown . Also side note, it's nice to see Cody and Katy presenting the show together. More please :)

Andrew Cottingham

Anita Bryant. Oh boy. Hates the gays while both her dad and husband physically abused her. You’d have to be severely indoctrinated to your culture to overlook such brazen abuse while claiming another minority is creating chaos in the culture with their existence

Niels

In case it's being considered to move purely to the Patreon player for future videos: I like to watch through the YouTube app on my TV. Being able to use my remote to mess with the video, while keeping my laptop free for other things. I'm not sure if there's a way to keep things as convenient for me with just the Patreon player. Thanks for tackling the great subject matter, as always!

Pelicans are my favorite dinosaur

I'm constantly infuriated these days. I was lurking (reading only, not commenting) in some Twitter comments of people who are constantly claiming drag = pedophile. They linked to a video of an actual pedophile getting caught in a sting (the guy was middle-aged, white guy, that looks like / was dressed like anyone you'd see in a Baptist congregation) and they were saying that all pedophiles should be punished by h@nging, or other d3@th penalty actions. I don't support pedophiles but the extreme reaction is over the top. The right is simply full of violent, terrified, angry, hate-filled trolls. It is truly stomach-churning.

Aaron Lutes

Impassioned and earnest Katy is my favorite Katy, right behind "I'm selling your blood and doors Katy"

Alec Ehrman

I thought this country was founded on puritanical weirdos pushing their shit on everyone and not letting the poors threaten the ultra wealthy/powerful? Stupid Federalist Papers...

Rob Heller

Thanks for the YouTube link I like it better

Karen Cox

So Shakespeare is now dangerous? Will the summer production of ‘As You Like It’ be banned?

Karen Cox

Also, if ‘sexual content’ is a problem, then why not ban kids from weddings which are ceremonies solely designed to give people permission to have sex.

Yems

Love that you went the extra mile to get into drag for the end of the episode!

Delaney Jade

It's me, I'm the dick clown. I crochet dick sculptures and I juggle and I paint my face in weird ways

T Gordon Mayhall

Truly the best show out there. Thank ya'll for being incredible people.

Josie Altzman

Thank you, even for (read: especially for) the serious parts. Love, An LGBTQ+ person

Frog Hands Frog Legs

I'm still sorta stuck on that Ben Shapiro clip. Is he against women wearing "men's" pants? Would he be okay with drag queens if they all wore kilts instead of skirts made for women? I'm wearing men's underwear right now and I don't have a dick, so I use the little dick pocket to carry my vape pen sometimes. Does Ben want to take that away from me?

Uthor

As a Polish American, thank you for defending the rights of poles.

Christopher Price

The embedded player is cropped weird for me, showing the top left quadrant

Nate Ford

The Patreon player isn’t working for me (I’m on an iPad Pro FWIW). But thanks for putting it on YouTube too!

PF

This was a great episode! Re: the video player, I'm a YouTube premium subscriber mostly for the ability to download and play offline. I don't have wifi in my shop, which is where I do most of my video and podcast listening. So I'm hoping you'll continue to upload subscriber videos to YouTube as well, and I'm still looking for a way to get the EMN podcasts to be downloadable without their *abysmal* app.

Matt Ellen

I love Cody in drag ❤️❤️❤️💋

Tarren Renn

So, if men do not traditionally wear skirts then how do we explain kilts? I really have so many feelings about gender roles and how hung up so many people are on them. Also on the fact that this country is so hung up on sex as well. We sexualize everything, and as long as it is "good, clean, hetero sex" it is okay, but the second it becomes something else... something other, then it becomes an issue. ARGHHHH!

Ellen Kirkland

You look great in that dress, its such a lovely shade of green.

Naren Hazareesingh

Does anyone have a link to the decades-old NYT “Against Homosexuality” article/op-ed that was shown on screen during this episode? I couldn’t find any reference to it in the sources doc