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Hi. Chelsey Weber-Smith, host of the podcast American Hysteria, joins Katy and Cody to talk about the House Oversight Committee's UFO hearings, Elon Musk humoring vaccine misinformation, and the surprisingly longevity of Pizzagate (and the oft-overlooked Hot Dog Gate).

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Clatou

If you haven't watched the UFO hearing, you should, it is pretty interesting.

Frank Blood

I ain't trying trip and I'll definitely listen to this tonight, but I can assure the entire team + the world that there is in fact an abundance of life out there. Bet. Just based on these 2 things - we're on the ass end of the universal time line and statistically speaking it's outrageously likely that there are tons of old civilisations inhabiting the galaxy and greater universe. 165 million years the dinos rocked this shit out we've been here for 300k. Why don't they chill then? No one in the universe is entitled to change the trajectory of an entire civilization so there are protocols = don't get caught spying. It was a mistake in the 50s to broadcast our location btw it's dangerous out there, so no one is broadcasting. I ain't trying trip but aliens ain't no conspiracy. Grammar be damned lol and pardon me for the soap box...I'm feeling froggy today :-) size and time are the 2 reasons btw and arrogance is why all the non-believers are wrong lol

Estance DH

I never really cared about or feared aliens, until I read the Three Body Problem trilogy. The Tencent show that was released this year is probably horrifying. Maybe Netflix is trying to bosten interest before they release their version? (is that a good conspiracy theory?)

Andrew Carkner

The history of the sasquatch is super interesting. It's a forest spirit venerated by an Indigenous nation in western Canada, and in the 1920s a White guy heard about it and started selling the story to newspapers across North America as a tall tale. The Indigenous people encouraged that and built a bunch of sasquatch-themed tourist destinations because it was the only way they could practice their religion (Indigenous religions were forbidden by law at the time)

Brittney Scott

I get so upset when people correlate the vaccine with myocarditis. My 7 year old son was hospitalized for weeks after having Covid (MIS-C) with myocarditis being a huge player in the length of the stay. It’s insane. The vaccine wasn’t even available for his age group at this time and yet people still try to argue that is what landed him there.

Frank Blood

Lord have mercy on me, the reason he had no names is cause no one wants to be outed/fired or legal retribution lol And btw UFO/UAP sightings are constant. My ole homie Peter Jennings, before he passed away, put a lot of work into a documentary that released in 2005 “seeing is believing”. There’s lots of corroborated evidence in there and it’s funny how folks super disbelieve these folks. In addition, most get ostracized and lose their jobs/livelihood so there’s that. Lots of these folks are reputable observers; folks whom, if you were in the jury while they were on stand you’d distraught if you’d miss something. And whom tf cares if they are reputable? They humans too.

Frank Blood

I had to censor myself the other day cause it was YouTube on a science channel. Instead I sent it directly to the science team. A rebuttal if you will. Anyway I don’t give a shit no mo y’all out me if you want but I seen some shit. And there was a witness, my doggo. His fashionable late ass woke up a sec after it flew over. So he heard something I didn’t cause it didn’t make a sound.

Frank Blood

That shit changed my life yo. I didn’t tell no one, not for Al long time. Just did research. The shit I saw puts any of these trash footage to shame. Anyway, because the government has released.

Frank Blood

shit means I can talk. And you know what question rocked my brain? What percentage of likelihood was that thing human?

Frank Blood

I was thinking about speed but fast was not the right question; I recently learned the that the interesting thing is how it went that fast and not tear a whole in the side of the continent. Anyway I’ll stop tripping, but I’ll leave you all with this. 6 months after I seen that shit, life changing shit, couldn’t stop dreaming about for years…. Peter Jennings released that doc and in it he travels to Seattle. To a gentleman who tracks sightings, and on his desk was the same shit I saw. A drawing mind you, and now I got a tattoo of that shit. Peace

Frank Blood

I’m liking my own shit :-P lol

Eric Herde

Katy, your neighbors who claim to have seen Sasquatch are doing cryptid appropriation. There are no sasquatches in California; they only live in the Pacific Northwest.

Frank Blood

No alien civilization is broadcasting cause they know better. We couldn’t process an 80s Link character from Proxima Centauri. We do NOT understand scintillation on a massive scale. Not even a little, nor can

Frank Blood

Can can we assume they’re most likely wiped out. Our assumptions should be that they are millions of years ahead of us.

Frank Blood

Watch seeing is believing. -Peter Jennings

Frank Blood

The shit has already been determined back in the day by government and they’ve been quite obvious about then moving the goal post/changing their tune. I won’t be attending anymore meetings but I will keep donating. Y’all keep up the good work

Dosbilliam

Think I gotta mention that Dan Olson mentioned QAnon starting on 8Kun, the rebranded 8Chan a little over halfway through In Search of a Flat Earth. :P

Aaron

Re confirmation bias, I hear this a lot that "well how do we know what's true if I can find things that agree with what I want to believe?" ie alternative facts. It's a question that bothers me as a scientist. It doesn't matter that you can find lies and misinformation to support your lies and misinformation, truth exists and reality can be verified. Most people want to live in their confirmation bias bubble, and that's why it's so important to teach people how to question their own bias, how to verify information properly, how to critically evaluate methodologies and sources, how to investigate bias of their information sources, and basic critical thinking. You know, the thing we never really ever do because "just trust me dude" is less effort.

Marina

Was a little disappointed regarding the, “thank you, next,” treatment you guys have the UAP hearings. It was sad to see some of my favorite independent journalists have the same general, somewhat condescending take as the legacy media has regarding these hearings. Some highly regarded, respectable independent journalists have been covering Dave’s story for months now, and I hope you two will watch Ross Coulthart’s interview with Dave (an interview that was entered into the Congressional record unopposed) and reconsider the words you’ve used to treat this topic. I’ve been listening to you guys for YEARS and this is the first time you’ve made my heart sink. This man has already done 11 hours of closed-door testimony with the Senate and the House, and these hearings were meant to enter what wasn’t classified into public record. The whole point was to expose a 4th level of government that has been a parasite on tax-payer money for 70 years and has gone without oversight for the length of its existence regardless of the origin of the technology. If this hearing was meant to be a distraction, it was a very poorly executed distraction.

Priole

Love the show, and I really like the work you guys do, I'd really enjoy it if the next time you broached the UFO hearing you'd include a STEM guest, as we know lack of science literacy is a common trait among all members of the American political electorate not just right v left wing, as it stands I think it would be supremely helpful to have a physicist guest on to talk about the hearing or to consult with when writing a full length SMN, or an even more news talk. The fact the hearings are bi partisan, the content of the hearings, when put in the context of our understanding and knowledge of physics is an absolute clown show and this entire hearing is ripe for taking the political establishment to task for engaging with this political theater while not engaging with the reality of how impossible these statements are. Any politician would have been able to consult with anyone in the scientific community before this hearing and would have been able to explain why this is wholly unserious, but as far as I know not one did.