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tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Argh HBO need to get so much more on it with the episode titles!! They released them late for season 2 as well

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

I think on GRRM- he mentioned that the relationship with Ryan Condol is still very frosty, he is still sent the scripts but any notes go through intermediaries now. "The board has concluded the call..." iykyk

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Lol you guys not understanding the symbolism of Rhaenyra shredding the dress in the moment was so funny to me 🤣

makondan

In my HBO Max the episode name is Salt and Sea, Fire and Blood

DN Reacts

I wasn’t really looking for it, was far too hyped for the episode 😂 need to be more on it in the next episode!

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

One thing this episode did incredibly well- if you knew this is where Jace dies, the fake outs were perfect! Still managed to give a gut punch to us who knew it was coming.

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Joffrey is Rhaenyra's remaining child with Ser Harwin. In Fire and Blood he remained at the Vale with Lady Jane Arryn, I *think* that's also true in the show but not 100%. Aegon and Viserys are Rhaenyra and Daemon's children that are en route to Pentos

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Oh I read the Alicent/Aemond kiss differently to you guys. I thought she was completely disgusted by the kiss but in order to keep her word to Rhaenyra she suffered through it, and was probably terrified of what he might do if she pulled away.

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

I think it was Daeron in the scene with Ormund! If it is- he does have dark hair! I got my wish!

Demanda

Kind of reddish too, just like Alicent’s. I dig it.

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Oh no I didn’t watch that yet, sometimes I get very frustrated with the inside the episodes- mostly when they big up all the practical effects and barely show the VFX contributions. Did they mention what the intention is? Or is it another one that’s open for interpretation?

QuasiRNG

Maybe unpopular opinion but I think this is a good point in time for Corlys to die. He already had his arc .. including the unlikely survival before. Seems like a fitting end.

QuasiRNG

That Ulf backstory with the red priest reminds me of what Melisandre did to Gendry for his "king's blood". Speaking of her, is she alive at this point in history? Might she make an appearance? After all, the night is dark and full of terror!

Stephanie Bedworth

Halaena's dragon is Dreamfyre, and Daeron's dragon is Tessarion. Last season Ulf said his father was Baelon Targaryen, which would make him Viserys and Daemon's brother but whether that's true or not is anyone's guess. Hugh told his wife the story of his mother but he never named her. From what he said about her, it's very likely that his mother is Saera Targaryen, one of King Jaeherys' daughters, who fled Westeros and went to Lys and later to Volantis, where she ran a pleasure house. She was a famous ho.

Stephanie Bedworth

She was supposedly around 400 years old so she would be alive at this time.

Krystal

Yes, I agree. I think that is why they've been hiding him from us in the trailer and all the promotion for this season

Krystal

Alicent seemed terrified of Aemond at that moment

JASON

Sheepstealer is a wild dragon, not an unclaimed dragon. An unclaimed dragon is a trained dragon without a rider. They’ve already been broken in and are used to taking commands. A wild dragon is feral. Bringing him into battle right after claiming him was a huge mistake. Rhaena was so obsessed with becoming a dragonrider that she pulled a Jason Bateman from Horrible Bosses, the dragon equivalent of entering a drag race in a Prius. Just because you got behind the wheel doesn't mean you're ready for the race.

Jimmy K

The ship was called the Bitchfist

JASON

I spent much time considering Damo's question: 'Whos more unhinged, Daemon or Aemond?' After that kissing scene, Aemond looked at the word 'unhinged' and said, 'Hold my eye patch.

Shanti (cuchupacu)

none of it is about the making of in this one. it’s the actors talking about the characters (motives, emotions) and includes allicent and that scene. it’s well worth watching!

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

I’ve seen multiple theories of Mysaria being Mel and Alys being Mel lol we love our crazy theories

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

I am so done with Corlys 😂 but I’m bias in that he’s probably my least favourite character even though he’s definitely not like the most evil or anything

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Is it more unhinged just because his mother is alive to kiss? That vision of Daemon having sex with Alyssa in season 2 I have absolutely no difficulty believing Daemon would 😂 I think they added this partly to draw that parallel

QuasiRNG

Woah defn never thought along those lines. Alys is pretty mysterious tho 🤔

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Very! I don’t think she’s choosing sides tbh. When Aemond goes to Harrenhal I expect her to give him the same treatment as Daemon. Think she has her own agenda. Also fully expecting Mysaria to betray Rhaenyra at some point, I’m very suss on her

TLC

Just an aside...Damo keeps saying this might be the beginning of the Dance of the Dragons... in the books the death of Viserys I began the civil war and its the entire civil war between Rhaenyra and the Greens which became known as the Dance of the Dragons.

DN Reacts

I don’t remember my actual words at the time but that is how we saw it I believe, it was the gulp before she went in for it that made it obvious she didn’t want to do it and was just doing it to make sure he did what she wanted

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Yeah absolutely, I think you guys just mentioned something about her maybe being intentionally seductive (for want of a better word) to get him to do what she needed and I read it more her finally trying to give him the motherly comfort he always craves- that doesn't come easily to Alicent either

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Just watched the Inside the Episode @Shanti :) it was pretty much what I had considered and I liked the stuff mentioned that I hadn't thought about. I'm always nervous with the Inside the Episodes after "Well Dany kind of forgot.. about the Iron Fleet"

DN Reacts

Oh yeah, I said that with the rub of the hand. I thought maybe she was testing the water to see how he would respond, but maybe that was just a motherly touch.

Jade

I gasped at Rhaenyra’s line, which is a direct quote from Queen Elizabeth I: “I may have the body of a weak and feeble woman but I have the heart and stomach of a King.”

TLC

@tiramisujen ... the opening scene, is this the aftermath of the Fishfeed? It seems to be but Damon being there has me confused.

Weird Magic

HBO waits a couple hours so there are zero spoilers if people want to start right at "time". They did the same for Dunc & Egg, probably for all their shows. If you want the episode title when you watch, start the episode 2 hours late. :)

Sarah_M

💜💜💜💜

Joe Brown

you guys keep talking about needing the dragon names written and assigned to riders as if you dont have it all in the family trees lol... this was a great episode!

Joe Brown

i assume Bitchfist is the name of the ship, not a nickname of Lohar lol

Joe Brown

50% of the transgender cast (for actual named characters at least) eliminated in one episode, brutal

Joe Brown

why are you back here jen surely you watched this a month ago