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tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

This is what I wanted as the season premiere! I think they overestimated how patient fans would be when you take 3 YEARS between seasons! MAYBE it would be ok if it was coming out yearly, but even then bah!

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

On Damo's theory of Mark working on something to do with Miss Casey/Gemma- I definitely don't think it's an accident that he's working on her file. If that's the case you have to wonder who the other MDR team are working on... who is Helly working on??

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Just want to clarify, in the conversation with Dylan and Helly in season one, Helly asks: Why don’t we always finish the file? Dylan replies: Because they only keep for so long, we finish on average 1 in 5 files before they expire. So it’s not that 20% of the file is completed, it’s 20% of ALL files. MDR have already finished files in season 1

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

I think when Irv says "my innie got the message" he means about the paintings of the testing floor. When he's on the phone, my first thought was he must be working with Reghabi. But she's the one who reintegrated Petey and reintegration would probably be an easier way to get a message to innie Irv. so now I'm wondering if outie Irv doesn’t believe in it or is scared to do it after what happened to Petey?

Demanda

Funny, I felt the opposite. I was more invested in how the Innies would feel than what would happen on the outside.

Demanda

I was really surprised when you guys believed the 5 months lie. As soon as I saw the newspaper I figured everything Milchick was going to tell Mark was going to be a lie because it was so blatantly fake. The photo was the same exact composition as the group photo on their desks. 😂 I later found out from some other fans that it was just pasted right into an actual photograph of US President Eisenhower taken during a parade in Brazil 😂😂😂

Demanda

Mark mentions Ricken’s body being burnt when he was trying to get Devon to understand how he feels, so my theory is that the body Mark identified had burns that obscured most of the features but they replicated some thing or things to convince him (maybe a tattoo or a scar or birthmark) that it was her. Most people aren’t going to question it when they’re told by the police that a body with markings matching their loved one was found in said person’s mangled vehicle. As soon as you saw the identifying mark you would want to stop looking at it.

Cameron

I was thinking this whilst watching. You could have had most of this episode as the first episode and ended it with Mark going back to the office for the first time.

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Yeah tbh I know that it's a common structure to ramp the pace back down at the start of a new season, but there's a lot of stuff in season 2 that I feel is taking a bit too much of the scenic route!

Cameron

On the BTS, you guys could watch it but I would recommend skipping episode 1 BTS as that feels much more like a trailer than a BTS and you do see scenes from upcoming episodes and see things I don't think you guys would want to see. From episode 2 onwards it seems to be focused on each episode and it's basically just the actors, creators and directors commenting on the episode and putting things in perspective, so they would probably be ok to watch. There is occasional implication or focusing on specific things in the same way that the recaps focuses on things you need to know for later on in the season.

Shanti (cuchupacu)

i think it follows the structure of the first episodes in season one. first we saw helly as a new innie and met the ppl on the severance floor and then we saw her go through the procedure (although we don’t know she’s helena eagan).

Shanti (cuchupacu)

i thought of kennedy when i saw it, but never looked it up.

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

I know they've mentioned the opening scene of season 2 Mark running in the corridors they wanted to parallel the long shot in the pilot episode of season 1 when he gets out of the lift and the happy music starts and we walk with him to MDR. It's a cool idea but yeah I'm not a big fan of the edging they kept pulling in season 2 🤣 I'd waited long enough and after the incredible world they'd spent the time to set up in the first season I was so ready to get into it!

Shanti (cuchupacu)

assuming it exists, mrs. selvig’s business is something between artisan soapery and homeopathy shop. there’s a store in town called “swab girl,” (after imogene kier), which is bath related, but we have no way of knowing if that’s supposed to be it. if the severance chip can be turned on outside like in the case of the overtime contingency, it stands to reason it can be turned off on the severance floor as well. didn’t milchick give helena the flowers at the end of her first day? i think helena started her project without most of lumon knowing- possibly even her father. she probably parked away from her usual VIP spot on purpose to enter and exit as other employees do. petey mentioned he was working w a group other than the whole mind collective, which would include rhegabi. irv must not be w them because he doesn’t seem to know about petey. he knows his innie would’ve had to get burt’s address from the footlocker, so he would’ve seen some of the other documents, as well as the painting he was working on when the OTC was engaged. fetid moppet- fetid means foul smelling, like something rotting. moppet is a small child. i can’t tell if jame is reprimanding helena for letting helly get through or testing to see if she’s back to herself. mr. drummond doesn’t seem like a frolic-aholic. i can’t tell if his tattoo is to remind him to frolic or the opposite. the only thing about dylan’s interview that would’ve been funnier, is if it had been a mirror factory.

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

Definitely think the paintings outie Irv was doing was the message he's talking about on the phone. I dunno why but I always got the impression Reghabi would be working alone or with a very small group. I'd completely forgotten about the Whole Mind Collective. I think yeah Drummond's tattoo is the reminder he needs lol if they're supposed to be perfectly balancing the tempers that would seem like the one most out of balance for him.

Shanti (cuchupacu)

edging! 😜 they’d worked on a lot before they stopped for the strike, so i kind of assumed the first episodes were pretty much done (or planned) before they resumed production. i actually prefer the meticulously curated product. as long as they know where they’re going 🤞🏼, i’ll wait for them to make it perfect.

Shanti (cuchupacu)

i’m not sure if i worded it correctly, so to be clear, i don’t think irv is w the WMC, either. there could be many groups working against lumon.

tiramisujen ≽^•⩊•^≼

I'm definitely a bit skeptical about whether they know where they want to go with the story. Especially after hearing there was disagreement about that when working on season 2. I will hope for the best but really wish Ben Stiller would have stayed on and I dunno if Anna Ouyang Moench is returning for season 3 but really hope they do

Sheri

Mark said to Devon... "If Rickon died and his body burned..." which makes me think Gemma's body may have been burned when he identified it.

TLC

What if instead of bringing Gemma back, Marks sorting work is driving her memory away... the numbers are the four tempers or emotions which are tied to memories. What if the sorting is actually in someway removing her memories. What if when people are severed they plant a subconscious suggestion in case they need it. It might be triggered by a Pineapple and thsts how Coble knew about a pineapple beibg involved. Coble' rage and outburts...could they be tied to the temper malice? The temp are woe, frolic, dread, and malice. We know the big guy is tied in someway to frolic. Perhaps Coble has these rages because her temper is malice. Finally, why do you believe anything that comes out of Milcheck's mouth...or anyone else at Lumon for that matter.

Don Della DonDon

I noticed that the license plate that was on Milchick’s cycle had Kier’s face on it and had the Latin words ‘Remedium Hominibus’ written on it. So not only do the creators make the time frame this series takes place very nebulous with the new/old tech and decades old cars, it also shows that the location is in a non-existent state. Maybe in this alternate universe there are over 200 countries?

sarina

I just googled “fetid moppet” and this is the definition that came up: A highly derogatory, archaic insult that means a foul-smelling or rotten child. The term combines "fetid," meaning a heavy, offensive stench, with "moppet," an old-fashioned and endearing word for a child or young girl.

Demanda

I think that’s the case. I get the impression that this world is supposed to be decidedly different from ours. Then again, Lumon frequently lies for seemingly no reason, so it’s also possible there’s not. 😂

Ambrosia

Devon still remains the only sane one in this whole show. "Are you gonna punish him if I tell you?" she asks Milchick when he asks what innie Mark said. I feel like that was her subtle way of saying "f you i'm not answering your question" and also "he told me what you guys do" without directly confirming what she was told. At least I like to think so. 😊

Patrick Solberg

Ofc they added the Wilhelm scream at ~55:10 ^^ (when Selvig drove away)

lauren ☆

i know we're still so early in the season but god i can't wait til you watch the finale

Brian Page

The four tempers are Woe, Frolic, Dread and Malice. "In my life, I have identified four components, which I call tempers, from which are derived every human soul. Woe. Frolic. Dread. Malice. Each man's character is defined by the precise ratio that resides in him. I walked into the cave of my own mind, and there I tamed them. Should you tame the tempers as I did mine, then the world shall become but your appendage. It is this great and consecrated power that I hope to pass on to all of you, my children." -Kier Eagan

Sarah_M

💜💜💜💜

Weird Magic

Remedium Hominibus translates to Remedy for People (or Remedy for Humanity)

Gamestress

I think the five month fake out was to cover for all the time it would’ve taken to put together all the fake reforms for the innies.