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*EARLY ACCESS* Wicked: Part One | Movie Night REACTION (Patreon)

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2025-11-17 22:00:06
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SING-A-LONG, SING-A-LONG!!

Apologies for your ears in advance but come sing-a-long and be theatre kids with us.

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MOVIE NIGHT | Wicked: Part One

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MsMcGoo

Hold hold hold, her sister was a witch!!!. Bro’s hair even got in to it. She came down in a bubble Doug!!! I think that’s one of my favorite memes of all time.

Girl4Music

First of all, Tash. I LOVE YOUR HAIR! You’ve probably changed it ages ago but this is the first time I’m seeing it. That colour suits you. I’ve been listening to the soundtrack for Part 1 like a mad woman since the film released. It’s nice to know Grande has not lost her classical/broadway vocals after all the pop/contemporary manufacturing. Then again I always find it’s a lot more difficult for classical/broadway stars to do pop/contemporary styles than it ever is for pop/contemporary stars to do classical/broadway styles. The reason for that being that you’re trained entirely differently as a vocalist and once you learn a proper technique, it’s hard to transfer to the improper. Lea Michelle is a good example. A great vocalist, but she cannot do pop worth a damn. And really, that’s more of a compliment than an insult because it means she never forgets proper technique. Grande isn’t a pop vocalist that I would particularly refer to as “versatile” like Lovato or Clarkson or Gaga but I have to admit she can really hold her own in the soundtrack. But I know that’s down to her starting off in broadway and theatre. Same with Nick Jonas - who initially struggled in going back to Broadway but then finally found his stride because he was determined to. Yes, it does frustrate me that they decided not to canonize Gelphie when it was so ripe for it but meh… It doesn’t matter so long as the love is conveyed well. And I wanted to see how Grande and Erivo portrayed that. Menzel and Chenoweth will always be the iconic and beloved versions of ELPHABA and GLINDA but it’s nice to see how the new generation girls can portray them. Broadway to the Big Screen is a huge shift after all and they aren’t always successful at it. They were here. Let me just say any worries I had about them being successful, I needn’t have. That was really fucking good. The movie stayed completely true to the stage production musical almost to the tee but because there’s a lot more run time to cover, things obviously had to be added and things also had to be different. And what they added or made different was a welcome change because I thought they emphasised on what actually mattered far more than they did in the stage musical and of course - I’ve only seen Part 1 so my opinion on that could change. That’s always possible. I was worried I’d hate it. I did not. Far from it. In fact I teared up a little bit when Menzel and Chenoweth came on screen and seemingly appeared to be mentoring Erivo and Grande. Seeing the 4 of them standing together like that was emotional for me because it was like the perfect representation in movie form of how generations inspire and learn from each other and ultimately have the torch passed on. And I loved that they had Idina Menzel and Kristin Chenoweth apart of it as stage production cameos. Now let’s get on to the reason why it was successful. Gelphie. I mean let’s face it: Elphaba and Glinda (the Ga is silent) are THE enemies-to-lovers-friends pairing. They’re probably the very first characters you think of when thinking or talking about the trope. Especially if you’re female and queer. They’re just so iconic in that way. I thought Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande did a fantastic job with them because they didn’t just copycat everything Idina and Kristin did with them. They made those characters their own and then some. I know they didn’t go there and I knew that they wouldn’t. But to be honest, they didn’t need to. Everything that needed to be there was there. The portrayal of their relationship from enemies-to-lovers-friends was handled well. I couldn’t help smiling and giggling watching their strange dance and of course their “loathing” of each other in the iconic ‘What Is This Feeling?’ number. They gave spirit to those moments. I loved it. I mean I really enjoyed watching them. I laughed. I cried. I think I even jumped at one point. It hit me and that’s all that mattered. That was enough. They didn’t need to go there and canonize Gelphie because there’s just as much value and depth in platonic WLW relationships as there are in romantic WLW relationships. In fact just relationships between women in general is something we’re really missing. Also I have to say if you thought Prince Fiyero was flat (the character, not the singing) in the stage musical, then believe me, the movie doesn’t make a difference. Not only does he still not have any chemistry with either Glinda or Elphaba. But there’s just nothing dynamic about him in general. He is just a one-note pretty boy. But I think that’s the point. The actor could sing well. That’s about it. Overall - stage to screen - they were very successful. And I can’t wait until I see Part 2.

Girl4Music

The Ozdust ballroom dance was probably my favourite scene in the movie actually. I just loved how Elphaba just accepted that she was her own person and so it never mattered what others thought of her. But the moment where Glinda joined in because she recognizes the pain within that and she doesn’t want Elphaba to be alone in that pain. It was something. Being your own person and dancing to the beat of your own drum is a painful choice to make. You’ve got to be so brave, so steadfast. You are outcast. You are alone. But if there’s someone that sees that - especially that of someone that made you feel that small in yourself - and instead of humiliating you along with the rest, they validate you. They show you that it’s okay. You’re okay to be who you are even if that means no one likes you. You’re ultimately too different or too strange for them. It’s fine because it’s what makes you strong and true. I was in the cinemas and there were these girls sat beside me that just giggled all the way through it. I wanted to tell them to shut up. That it wasn’t funny. But I realized the point was to giggle or laugh if you didn’t get it. If you did find what she was doing funny. If you didn’t understand the depth behind the actions. They didn’t. But I did because I’ve been there before. No one wants to feel that way. So alone in their personal pain of being alone or of having to walk alone. It feels terrifying. But it’s also a statement of independence and defiance because in that moment you are making a statement: “You can’t change me. I am too strong.” You see when Elphaba makes this statement in her dancing and Glinda eventually joins in with her, it’s not a moment of understanding her pain because Glinda has never felt that way herself but it is a moment of seeing - of recognizing it for what it is and that she was part of what caused it and so she wants to correct those wrongs. She doesn’t understand and probably never will but she stands with her anyway because she admires Elphaba’s strength and bravery. She’s never met anyone that’s so authentic in who she is. All she knows is just these fake ass bitches and that she herself is one of them until now. It’s a wonderful metaphor if you understand it. It’s funny how that never hit with Menzel. But it did with Erivo.

Girl4Music

What I think is really neat is the reason why Glinda picks on Elphaba isn’t because of her skin colour being green at all, but because Madam Morrible chose her over her. She makes a pretence about it being about her skin colour because she doesn’t want it to reflect on her perceived failure at being special to Shiz enough that the Wizard would take the time to notice her the way he does with Elphaba for her magic abilities - and then as soon as they’re best friends - Glinda immediately just gives up that whole rouse and is just like: “actually, she deserves it over me” because - in her own way - Glinda feels outcast too and she compensates for it by being the most popular. But through their friendship, she learns to accept herself just as much as she learns to accept Elphaba. She learns to accept being no one special. Un-extraordinary. But instead a real support system to someone that is what she will never ever be. She’s humbled by her experiences with Elphaba. And it makes her a very beautiful person too. That’s the reason why her magic grows beyond her capacity for it. Her magic is in healing, in supporting - in loving. But in order for her to reach this potential, she had to look beyond and outside of herself. Outside of her bubble. In a sense: she can do so much for “the little people” when she doesn’t see herself as being above them. What makes Glinda the Good is not her popularity or her vanity - but her need to relate to others for other’s sake. When her unconditional love for them is as bright and blinding as her physical beauty. This is her power. In that scene where she tells Elphaba that she is beautiful just as she is, she glows in reflection too. It’s because for seemingly the first time - she’s put inner beauty above outer beauty. It’s very attractive. Elphaba teaches Glinda - without realizing it I have to add - that beauty is not skin deep. Beauty is within. Glinda only becomes such a powerful force for Good because she’s learned to accept in herself what she once believed was not just as much as she has others. Putting herself on the same level propelled her higher. It’s not because she already had that high position in her society. Likewise it’s not because anyone else was below her. She had to earn the right to be that high up by understanding what it took for someone to fall down. That’s the overall message of WICKED. It’s not about being Good or Evil. But what it takes to get there. And what is lost from it. That’s why I love that it’s not a success story. It’s not supposed to be. It’s supposed to be a representation and reflection of hardship and failure and weakness. But within that - how the attempt is still very notable when things are sent to try us, defame us, oppress us. Stories like that are hard to come by because success/victory is just far more appealing and entertaining than the opposite is. But I’ve never been interested in what was appealing or entertaining. Only in what educates. I would have thought now that Elphaba is portrayed by an actual black woman, this would have been clearer for people. Not to mention the feature film’s narrative being extended to include moments of discrimination and oppression for Ozians not of the “superior race”. The fact that Wicked can be read as gay/queer even more so now than ever before should be helping that. I find it odd when people have their “queer lenses” on that they don’t understand the queer narrative there. Almost like they think “queer” is only about being gay and not the struggle it takes before that is identified. Like there’s people that watch Xena that completely bypass the fact the first episode is literally the queer narrative because “it’s not gay enough” for them yet Well, it’s because if it’s truly sincere and proper queer representation, it won’t just end up “gay” immediately because a real gay person goes through the motions with that feeling of being excluded and outcasted first before they come to identify themselves as being gay. Xena isn’t just “gay”. It’s queer. It’s a queer narrative. In fact … It’s more queer than it ever is actually gay because - surprise surprise - being queer has far more to it than just sexuality. And Wicked is the very same. So the fact people miss all this about Wicked because they focus far too much on it being gay makes sense. And this is the problem I have with “gay representation” these days in TV art/entertainment. They jump in with both feet with it being gay. And forget all about it being queer. Well, the thing is is no real person that has struggled with sexuality or/and gender identity is ever going to resonate with that “representation” because it’s empty. It does not represent an experience of being queer first. Anyone who watches this musical and doesn’t see the immediate parallels between the story and real life racism and other discrimination is willfully blind. I mean…. That’s the whole point. That’s literally the moral. Don’t demonize someone who looks different to you or you pay the consequences. That’s how I’ve always understood the story of WICKED anyway. There’s people that don’t understand that? 🤨 It’s basically like Carrie but more focused on skin tone. These people become supernaturally powerful people because they’re pushed to their limits on their tolerance for mistreatment. They start to fight back on the abuse and nothing can stop them from being,… well… wicked. The theme is nature vs nurture. Are people born wicked or are they forced into being it out of circumstances that they can’t fully control? Is there any good that can be had of them? Not when they’re only treated as evil. Because why would they be good? And they might not be changed for the better But they might be changed for good. I hope Part 2 does it best to convey this because that’s the power of the storytelling and representation of Wicked.

Girl4Music

Oh man. The magic you get when you play to opposites. To yin-yang. Just like X&G. ❤️👌

2 Girls 1 Episode

Aww thank you ☺️ definitely a colour I’ve wanted to be for a while, the upkeep is a lot but it’s definitely my colour I think - Tash

HiCo

Wow that was quite a ride. We got the tears. We got it turning into the Hunter show for a minute. We got the saying how breaking up Defying Gravity was a bad call... oh wait I just need to pause this for a sec! 😂 As you said this movie is laden with so many references layered upon each other. One that was very obvious to me but I have not seen talked about anywhere is where the Wizard goes behind the curtain with the model balloon and does a little dance where he appears to move the moon about. That's a major red flag warning that he is the worst guy. In the 1940 film the Great Dictator, Charlie Chapin spoofs Hitler and does a similar kind of dance with a huge balloon painted like a globe. Dorothy's description of him as 'a very bad man' doesn't begin to cover it... I have to point out the novel is very very different from the musical. It has a much darker tone and has some frankly weird and even unsettling sections. I think it is worth a read but be prepared for it to bear very little resemblance to the story in the musical. Expect a deep dive into the political situation of Oz, the competing religious practices, interdimensional philosophising and characters you know from the musical being totally different as well as a few surprise extra ones. When the movie came out it was republished with the movie poster on the cover and more than a few parents bought a copy to read to their children... within a few pages those books got closed up and put on a high shelf out of the reach of the kids.

2 Girls 1 Episode

All the subtle references make my brain happy but I didn’t know that wizard one. Also people buying the book for their kids is insane! I know it’s vastly different from the musical but was hoping it would fill in some of the magic lore that’s missing. - Tash

MsMcGoo

You’ll never believe what auto played after the movie……. SpongeBob SquarePants.