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Are the Wright's Self aware?

  • Yes 142
  • No 1139
  • 2024-06-03
  • 1281 votes
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Vausch Abendroth

Did they get their hiding cues from Tony Tony Chopper?

One I'd Nick

Not listened to the new episode yet, but based on all their other stuff i think they believe that they are making awesome movies at a reasonable price.

Talyn

Nope, I'll accept that they are real life werebigfoots before I accept that they are self-aware.

Vausch Abendroth

Wish patreon could let me reply with an image.

DataAngel

I think they have BECOME self-aware. The kids almost certainly. Maybe not David.

KimbaKat

I think it's half and half honestly or maybe 25% self aware and 75% thinking they nailed it.

ThornWolfy235

I almost wonder if they're trying to to make bad movies to get more attention and spread the gospel that way. "Those heathens might watch us ironically, but they're still hearin' the truth and the word!" kind of a deal.

Grant Cosper

I think it's possible that they're a bit self-aware now, but when they started, no way. And I agree that David probably thinks he's still making awesome Bigfoot movies. But Neil Breen absolutely is NOT self-aware, even now.

Rachael L

I think they must know their movies are shanky on some level, but don't they put their ministry's name to these films- that leads me to siding with Eli. As the pope dons his silk and gold vestments he must know he looks silly on some level, so the Wrights zip themselves into nylon Bigfoot costumes.

Lisorael

Perfect comparison!

Andrew Gibson

The kids are. Parents, not so much.

Anne the transwoman

Absolutely the fuck not. I've seen this movie. There's no way those fuckwits are aware of anything! Let alone awere of the self. Nuh uh, absolutely not. Cecil is wrong.

Chris Kiser

Self-awareness isn't a binary, but I do think the Wrights either have very low or very high self-awareness. The more self-awareness you have, the more insecurities you tend to have because you are more aware of how you might be perceived. IMO, the only way the Wrights could be highly self-aware here is if they are marvels of mental health with near mastery of their insecurities. Otherwise, they'd be worried that they were too convincing and would probably make it more obvious that this is satire. I find it way more plausible that they have such a tragically insular worldview common to religious fundamentalists and conspiracy theorists that they actively avoid being self-aware by dismissing all critics as demons/deep-state actors trying to silence them.

Aaron Irvin

I think with this one they've perhaps become self aware. With the 2020 marathon of productions, there was perhaps a mix of something to do during Covid mixed with the idea that these movies might actually serve as some sort of ministry or something. By the time we get to 2023 though, I think they're OK with accepting their movies aren't good and are accepted for their cheesiness.

Acela2163

I think they THINK they're being self aware, but they still completely fail to grasp the reality of their "movies"

Daniel Mancini

As a person who made a film in high school in 2002 using a VCR camcorder and a script I wrote in two days that I did not proofread and thought this bizarre collection of poorly miced long shots and bad references was genuinely pure genius, I do not think the Wrights are faking it. Even if they have become a bit self-aware, I am going to guess they don’t truly understand why everyone finds their stuff so funny.

TBoneSF

I'm sure there's some sort of corollary to Hanlon's Razor ("Never attribute to malice that to which is adequately explained by stupidity") that goes something like "Never attribute to comedy genius that to which is adequately explained by Christian Dunning-Kruger and home schooling".

Everett Abbott

In Theater, there was a lot of this kind of accidental comedic genius. I once got in a line loop, during competition, that the female lead and I began over acting. It got a laugh... Not from the judges, though. I believe the play was, "A Doctor in Spite of Himself".

Everett Abbott

And there is no way they are aware of their comedic timing and improv. It sounds like the daughters may not enjoy the process, and could be half-assing until they get bitched at... Then over acting like psychopaths.

Rob McCullough

The parents are not. The kids are. I forget which episode, but someone said “this can be used in their emancipation case” - was it Cara?

Markus D

That doesn't so much look like "hiding" as it does "being angry against a tree".

John of the bankruptcy pirates

Just because they are religious zealots doesn't mean they don't recognize that the world at large sees them as laughable and that they are intentionally capitalizing on it to get their messages out. I guarantee you they love GAM and would come on and do an interview if you reached out. You platform their messages to unbelievers that is crazy zealot gold (I'm not saying you should not, just saying they aren't unhappy)

Stella

My theory is that they've seen campy/goofy movies make self-aware jokes that land, and they're imitating that. Like they think they're doing a little wink-nudge in the middle of an otherwise not self-aware movie, but it just blends in to the general incompetence of it all.

Dexter

As someone who was filmed in a Big Foot suit for a family’s professional movie aspirations, no, they were not self-aware.

So, we come to the end of this

Between this, Neil Breen, and My Immortal, it seems like Cecil just refuses to believe anyone can be funny through artistic incompetence. Which is sort of sweetly optimistic, if you think about it. But no. In all cases, they're just the right kind of bad at what they do.

So, we come to the end of this

You'd need a pretty big and weird conspiracy for so many of the sharpest comedic minds around to be toiling away in secrecy on projects only a dozen people will ever watch.

So, we come to the end of this

Could be true, but I doubt they're going so far as to intentionally include mistakes. I think they're just bad at this.

Aaron Irvin

To be fair, My Immortal was hotly debated in its own day

Talyn

Yeah, Eli needs to deal with that. This is God Awful Movies, how dare Cecil assume artistry had anything to do with any of them? 😆

James Price

Ah, the Tony Tony Chopper hiding technique

Julie Wine&Reason

I think the girls might be self aware. I hope they are and running a multi-year prank ear on their parents.

Barry Anderson

As a little genius child with Asperger’s growing up in a free holiness church and trying to use rationality with them at a very young age and getting told all that science I loved was of the devil. I will say with confidence, that folks with that mindset are incapable of self awareness. If NPCs truly exist, it’s in communities like this

Another Craig

You're grounded! Go to your tree

Matty B

Never thought Cecil's character arc in the podcastiverse would be being wrong all the time. Didn't see that coming.

Markus Nävergård

....THEY ARE LIKE OLD RPG NPCS! they just say the same thing every time you talk tot hem

a gay in indiana oh my god oh no help

At the time of being a fundie homeschooler, my large family held “weirdness” like a badge of honor to compensate for the fact that we were both controlled and neglected and insecure. As a former “ quirky” child, this was tough to watch lol. I think the parents are dead ass serious about their craft with the smallest splash of “we can be silly sometimes.”

Clockworkk

Maybe—just maybe—the Wright kids know how bad these movies are, but I really don’t think the parents do. You should’ve seen some of the atrocities that my homeschool group put together, stuff they genuinely believed was good. But none of it was good. It was all war crimes. It’s like asking if Gramps is self-aware. He’s a similar level of absolute absurdity. And having seen Forrest Valkai interview Gramps, I can say I’m pretty confident that he’s not self-aware, not even remotely. Some people are just completely out of touch, and these days they have access to the internet to shotgun their batshittery to the rest of the world.

The Real Moorey

If Eli fighting David for $1000 to charity makes they are self aware….they can be self aware.

Lincoln Eddy

What side does the terrible, six-fingered, AI poster fall on?

Damion Damaske

Ngl, Cecil's bullshit made me actively bored and angry and an advertisement to never listen to Citation Needed if he's a permanent co-host. It's literally the least interesting angle to pursue in something like this.

Flantastic02

I definitely think they're trying to he funny, but I DO NOT think they realize what part is funny or why it is.

RudeTea Rex

What? Hey this is a comedy podcast and if you don't enjoy this episode or show I would recommend citation needed. Also a comedy podcast but the style of content can make the jokes really interesting.

Damion Damaske

I mean I'm a Patreon to GAM, lol. Obviously I like this podcast. Luckily for me Cecil isn't a permanent fixture

Chihuahua Apologist

I could believe the self aware angle if there were, like, up to five of these movies. The wright family has DOZENS of entries in their catalogue. You do not do that unless you have no regular interaction with reality.

Celebgil

Oh my goodness, that 'stealth' child is is even worse than I was expecting!! 🤣

Celebgil

'Dwaaarven craaafts.' 'Someone should do something about the giant rats in the sewers!' 'Hooray for Jebus!' Yeah, no difference 🤣

Kenneth Hannan

David Wright is drunk and the Christian head of the house. Even if his wife saw these were all really bad ideas, I don't think she could tell him.

Adam Martin

They aren’t self aware they are just incompetent and convinced of their own genius same as Neil Breen. It’s like calling the Trump Team self aware and that’s why Rudy did a press conference at Four Season’s Landscaping.

Melinda Nowikowski

I'm with Eli on this one - I grew up a mainline Protestant in a small, rural town in SW Ohio. We weren't that weird, as Protestant church kids went, but we wrote the same kind of corny, earnest, sometimes goony shit for our youth group and church camp plays. And then I discovered rock and roll and beer, and I realized how ridiculous it was - didn't until then, though.

Markus D

I think they might make intentionally silly concepts for movies, like the Bigfoot stuff, with this rationale, but I get the impression that the bad production stuff is just because they're bad at movies.

Luke Thompson

The Wrights really and genuinely don't know. I think the basic disconnect is that the guys know that the Christian conservative types insulate themselves, none of them have real long-term experience with it. It really is a whole different kind of mindset, and the core belief is that you're always right. ALWAYS. No matter how wrong you can be proven to be, no matter how foolish, awful, or unskilled you actually are. You're a Christian, and you're up against a sinful world. Any criticism, ridicule, or pushback from the sinful world is interpreted as proof that you're right. I've met a lot of "exvangelicals" who grapple with depression because on top of the family and community drama that might result, "I'm a Christian so I'm right" was the ENTIRE foundation of their self-confidence.

Talyn

Cecil is fun, he just has too much faith in humanity, still. Eli needs to find a movie to crush that. 😆

Tales from the Iron Range

I think this is a case of someone never finding out that the infant game peakaboo is not real. I think the Wrights truly believe that, when you cover your eyes, you vanish from the sight of the other person. The child thinks that, by covering one eye, they are only partially visible. The Wrights are as self aware as my dog barking at her reflection in the sliding door.

Rondo

I don’t think so, but Eli, you can’t use this as data against Cecil’s point

Cave_Dweller

MY theory is that this whole debate is a self-aware meta-bit conjured up by Cecil and Eli.