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This week, we inaugurate a new guest masochist with a movie you REALLY shouldn't inaugurate a new guest masochist with.

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DataAngel

Everyday is Halloween, Eli. Every. Day.

Leslie Kavara Customs

Yes we decorate that way and yes we go balls to the wall at Halloween.

Jme Simard

What in the Ebony Darkness Dementia Raven Way?

Markus Nävergård

i kinda want the Goths here not to be the subculture and instead the tribes of Barbarians named Goths. "man obsessed with the Roman empire, because he to wants to be destroyed by the Goths"

Markus Nävergård

so this movie is where heath realise all magic shows are tricks, like if his belief in Santa was taken away all over again

Markus Nävergård

Like Eli i will be open and Vulnreble, this might be my favorite, because i am very weak for Goth women

Robert Muse

They are not tricks they are illusions

Denise Huston

Okay, song that must open this movie is When You're Evil by Voltaire, and that track (and about half his discography) is NOT meant to be taken seriously, it's comic goth. He has one on the same album where he tells you not to out your fellow goths by saying their real name at the vampire club. He has a whole album of songs about Star Trek and Star Wars called Bitrekual.

Denise Huston

(Incidentally, is either does or did teach graphic arts at NYU as well, lol. Six degrees of Bosnick.)

Markus Nävergård

Also did offical songs for the Billy and Mandy Grim Adventure movie/Shows

Markus D

I don't know how I feel knowing immediately that the opening song must be "When You're Evil", because I spent so much of my childhood/teen years listening to Voltaire. I am not wealthy or in a convenient enough social centre to be full-goth, but I've always been a bit goth. HOWEVER, I despise Nightmare Before Christmas just because of how boring yet over-rated it is. GET BETTER TASTE IN MOVIES.

james devine

Heath, did you let Eli fall into another well? Are you pushing him in?

Gmork

Not even the slightest bit goth, but the music in NBC is awesome. And the scene where he has to apologize to the Easter Bunny kills.

Ghost Walker

Is it just me or are they describing the Amazing Johnathan's act to a tee? It sounds like the guy who made this movie wrote it for the Amazing Johnathan but couldn't get him to play the role. BTW is it just me or did Patreon remove the ability to post on the app?

KayJayO

Punk: anti establishment, all about attitude and a statement, and the music Goth: Dark and graveyard aesthetic before all else Emo: Personal demons and feelings, lots of pop punk music All three can cross over each other, just depends on the person—although some people hate other groups cuz they think they are annoying

tsukiouji

Yesssss! That song was very much making fun of edgy dudes, and both the movie and the hosts did not get it, and I'm so disappointed in Eli, Heath, and Andrea for that

tsukiouji

Every day's a masquerade ~

DataAngel

Eli is sitting at home, completely torn between wanting to bully goths and finding out that a lot of them are patrons

Markus D

Nah, I've listened to a lot of musicals. Nightmare Before Christmas is pretty mid. Like, I don't actually think it's HORRIBLE, but I do think it's wildly overrated, especially when it comes to people who want to be a bit darkly-counterculture. Same with a lot of Tim Burton stuff in general, which Nightmare Before Christmas BARELY IS, by the way. We need more people crediting Henry Selik for directing when a lot of people think it's Burton.

Matt

As someone who absolutely hates Bitcoin and crypto in general, I am really looking forward to next week.

Markus D

There are also a bunch of sub-subcultures based on aesthetic and what music people listen to, at least in terms of punk and Goth (like rivet heads, romantic goths, pastel goth, cyber goth) . Not sure about how much emo branches out.

Markus D

One thing that makes me feel less goth is the fact that I feel like a lot of the "decorating with Halloween stuff" and "everything is black" aesthetics can be a bit tacky, but on the other hand, it IS better than that modern "everything is simplified and off-white" that's annoyingly popular.

tsukiouji

I have never been more disappointed with Eli than his implication that he doesn't enjoy Beetlejuice, or that none of the hosts got that "When You're Evil" is making fun of exactly this guy

Leslie Kavara Customs

Oh totally most mass produced spooky is crap. I usually end up buying items I kinda like and then spending another 5-10 hours refinishing and repainting it to get the exact spooky, gothic romance feel that I want.

Vausch Abendroth

That song y'all mentioned is "When you're evil" by Voltaire. His songs are all dark/horror comedy and he's the one that did the "brains" song from Billy and Mandy. Also voiced the monster.

Gmork

I agree it's not the least bit edgy or countercultural and that people who ascribe that to it are weird. What I really enjoy is the twisted wonder and joy that Jack takes in the discovery of something new that he doesn't understand and the peril that leads him too. And songs like What Is This are always going to give me a smile.

Denise Huston

I can't give them too much shit, but I am amused if the great master of darkness or whoever unironically picked that track for his spooky movie.

Denise Huston

And super fucking hot, not to be too thirsty on main.

Harper Court

Thank you, Andrea! Great first time guest hosting!

CarrieBoo

When Halloween comes around, the decor spills out onto the front lawn. During Xmas we decorate around the Halloween.

Nate

OMG!!! There’s a mid credits scene!!! Did they know????

Caldwell

Eli making an audio quality joke on this episode, where it sounds like he'd accidentally selected the built in laptop mic, is meta-funny; sorry Eli, but lol

Maggie

Maybe he just has his mic upside down again

Markus Nävergård

and then we also have the Jungle that is Heavy metal and the myriad of sub cultures with in that with all the sub generas

Markus Nävergård

and now i got flashbacks to that Crypto island trailer/ musical number

Barry Anderson

Just as Eli said, we can cut this and redo the intro, I put my phone in my pocket and it restarted. I was laughing at what I thought was a bit for a second.

V0ldek

I am so glad I'm not the only one that immediately knew the song from Eli just saying "pea beneath your bed". Voltaire has a song titled "Riding a Black Unicorn Down the Side of an Erupting Volcano While Drinking from a Chalice Filled with the Laughter of Small Children" and if you think that's weird that's fair, but also he's extremely cool and a genuinely charming guy* who's kinda just the final evolution form of a theater kid. He has a YouTube channel where he just talks about cool home decor stuff for weird goth people, which again, weird - sure, but the wholesome kind of weird. I'm sure Eli would get along with him, at least until he tried to lick him. Incidentally, he has a song about how much New Jersey sucks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mss70nXNQ0) * at least I'm not aware of any abuse allegations, I really hope I'm not going to regret this statement in like 5 years...

V0ldek

I genuinely love that in my private life I know literally no one who ever listened to a Voltaire song, but somehow there's at least a couple people into the same weird shit in this very Patreon. I feel home.

Total Absolutism

Came looking to see if anyone had identified it immediately, very disappointed Eli didn't Google the lyrics.

Denise Huston

Me, in my kitchen listening to the ep: ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT FUCKING VOLTAIRE??? Funfact: this is the second audio thing in the last two weeks that I've heard reference Voltaire, which is positively bananashoes to me.

Denise Huston

Okay there's literally a guy where I live who drives a hearse, and everyone just knows him as hearse guy. It's odd the first couple times you see him out cruising in his hearse, but eventually you're just like, "oh yeah, he has a really nice dog, and he owns the viking bar downtown. You know." (This is a v. old man, BTW, this isn’t some Johnny-come-lately spookster)

Steve Wynter-Murdoch

Entertaining and educational, just like a Bruce Willis movie. 🤘

mortalwren

I listened to this episode in the waiting room at urgent care and kept pausing it to zone out or chat with my dad and in the 9 hours I was there I did not finish the episode but boy was it such a trip every time I hit play. I have no idea what happened in this movie

Oso Hermoso

Eli is your mic upside down again?

Markus Nävergård

i want a hearse combo hotrod with like flames on it and a skull made of chrome int he front

Markus Nävergård

to qoute King Diamond/ mercyful fate " everyday is Halloween"

V0ldek

I feel robbed for you not having read the imdb reviews. Quote: "I have watched this movie numerous times Every single I watch it The more I love it! You won't be disappointed Guys, the ladies in this movie is whoa! Hopefully dark realm two will come out soon. I have special request. Can you star. Meli in the movie? Please?!?! 10/10"

Adam Parkin

I guess I'm the only one to have a similar experience to Eli (I'd accidentally offended two Americans sat next to me). My solution was to hold up my hand to try to block their view XD

Echo Cian

Andrea is a great guest and I enjoyed the episode, but I cannot wait for holy bitcoin, my god

Off-label Botanist

Emo are seen as sort of newcomers by goths, who are not generally concerned about the longevity of the genre. A goth's home decor takes advantage of deals from Spirit Halloween all year round but Halloween represents a sort of renewal of vows. Wormwood does nothing.

IngloriousBaxter

Can anyone tell me if Eli’s audio is fixed in this episode or is it terrible the whole time? It’s torture!

Devin Rose

Omg I also have a town hearse guy, also a random old man, mines mean tho

Devin Rose

I feel like obviously the devil is a man who loves puns, I just feel like he missed out when he didn't call the "festival of flesh" a "flesh-tival"

Markus D

What's the other thing?

Markus D

I would genuinely love to drive a hearse because I think they're stylish and they have a lot of trunk space.

Vausch Abendroth

Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy? It was on cartoon network where two kids befriend (enslave) the Grim Reaper after beating him in a limbo contest for Billy's pet hamster's soul. It's a really good show, really funny and not afraid to push what was allowed on TV at the time.

Cyanmoon1

Andrea was such a fun guest :)

Winter

I had the exact same issue Eli did watching a movie that takes a turn - I was watching ‘Trainwreck’ on a plane - and the first 15 minutes is pretty much soft core porn … though John Cena looks pretty nice with naught on but a sock …

EmprahBulborb

Was it the dancing meteor episode? It was the dancing meteor episode wasn't it.

Patrick Carr

The 2008 movie The Wrestler, with Mickey Rourke, included a pro wrestler whose gimmick was stapling things to his body during a match. I sat in the audience wincing the whole time and this triggered me.

Sami Marie

imo emo is goth for teenagers going through puberty

Wank Sinatra

I can’t believe no one mentioned the obvious Victorian ghost of a little girl sitting in the front row

Balloons in BOLD

I know a balloon artist who drives a black hearse as his daily

Sparrow

I have been on a plane sitting entirely too close to someone who was very openly watching porn on their phone. Dude also fell out of his seat at one point while trying to take his shirt off for reasons known only to him.

Sara Norris

Cannot overstate the relief I felt running to the comments and seeing a bunch of other people also immediately recognize Voltaire lyrics.