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Coming This Week - Aprill 22nd (Patreon)

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2024-04-21 16:00:11
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Hi Everyone

Here is what's coming out this week on our Patreon page, We finally started Shogun and it did not disappoint .

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Hans Engelen

Wait what ... No hunger games? The odds will not be in your favor!

Adam Pacio

I honestly reupped my Patreon just to watch your full Stardust reactions but if you're starting the Shogun journey I'm happy to stick around. No spoilers at all. But I read the novel by Clavell at least 20 times (before discovering Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series, which holds the title currently for the longest continuous work of fiction in the English Language... and then I read all of those books at least 20+ times as well). Just to manage expectations - Shogun details a very popular time in Japanese feudal history, and there is a tradition in historical Japanese romances to zero in and tell the story of this exact time period over and over again. Every serious author and filmmaker focuses on the intrigue and politics leading up to the Battle of Sekigahara, and James Clavell is no exception. Clavell as an English writer took on the challenge of writing his own version of this time period in history as a kind of "paying his dues" and "bidding to be recognized as a fellow master of the Asian historical fiction" by covering the well-known historical period and all of the major players from real events. What that means, though, is that the story will feel unfinished to Western audiences who are not familiar with the trope or the period. The West wants to see the War at Sekigahara and the historical conclusion of this time period. Western modern audiences tend to also be very unfamiliar with ANY of the historical figures portrayed, and so the story takes the West almost completely by surprise, where a Japanese audience is already intimately familiar with how each historical figure fared. So for us, we watch wanting the story of where they end up. But for those familiar with this period in Japanese history, the story is all about how they GOT there. And so the novel Shogun ends, as is customary, well before where the Japanese audiences kind of expect the show to stop. Don't look for everything to be resolved at the same Western stopping point, or you will feel empty or cheated from being 'sated' by the lack of conclusions that Shogun brings. The main criticism of the show is that the ending feels abrupt and arbitrary to new Western watchers, and they compare it to the crappy ending that got given to Game of Thrones. But it's just because they don't have the same prep or context that generally, either you tell the story of the actual Battle of Sekigahara and all the outcomes, OR you tell the story of how you got to the eve of the Battle of Sekigahar and the political maneuvering it took to get there. But STOP before the battle. Shogun does the latter. If you want the conclusion to the war itself, after the finale of Shogun watch the recent movie titled "Sekigahara" and it will pick up and finish things off where Western story cadences would prefer to stop.

Ramblers Inc
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We absolutely loved shogun granted we had to go re watch it to fully understand it, Shogun does the latter. If you want the conclusion to the war itself, after the finale of Shogun watch the recent movie titled "Sekigahara" and it will pick up and finish things off where Western story cadences would prefer to stop. - we did not know this, it might be something to look into actually. I think alot of people didn't understand the ending like you said it ended abruptly but that was one the best parts of it in our eyes it explains everything in just that one scene