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Should this be my new shop? (Patreon)

Published:
2021-10-05 16:37:52
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2021-10-05 16:38:16
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Since the "shop update" video I've looked at two potential shops! The first one was sketchy, in a sketchy spot, but was pretty big and cheap. I vetoed it because I wouldn't feel safe being there lol.This is the second shop I looked at, just an hour ago. Its a 4000 sq/ft shop (10000sq/ft building but would be devided) for $2000/month. The building is very old, in fact it used to be an old model-t factory! Its rough at the moment but the landlord is planning a few renovations if he can find 3 tenants. Its got some pro's and con's. Pros:Big shop for a fair price400amp 3 phase electricCool vibe/would look good in videosVery automotive friendly Landlord would pay for renovations (more lights, 110v outlets, 220v outlets, new roof, fixing the flooding)Has water/bathroom Cons:Old building with potential problemsSupport beans could get in the way Far from Monroe, just under an hour driveKinda in the middle of nowhere. 30 minutes from any big town so getting parts/supplies could be difficult. Would have to have everything in stock. Won't be ready till November Thats about it. If it was in a better location I would hop on it immediately. Being in the middle of nowhere isn't a HUGE deal, but I could see it being an issue. Part of the appeal of a shop to me is having a place my friends can come to hangout and build their own cars. If its an hour away then it kinda defeats the purpose. But anyway, let me know what you think!

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Riley Testa

Looks promising, but don’t settle just to get a shop. There’s still a lot of Cons there.

George

Just get it, it looks way better than the barn and this one you can always cancel the lease on you know? Plus the owner seems pretty cool and I'm sure with some paint that place could look completely different

Keith Dosik

I definitely dig it! Needs to be cleaned up but if slightly modernized it would have a very cool retro modern feel. The only thing Are those beams which I’m scared would become super annoying. I imagine you can put multiple lifts in it though which would be amazing

AdiRWD

This looks really good! But those poles look like they'll be in the way

Greg Rhyne

The biggest cons I can see you having an issue with is distance and a potential raise in rent when the lease renews if the landlord does renovate it. The distance can be alleviated if you can find a retail store that will deliver basic materials and such to keep you stocked, but there’s still the travel distance for yourself. Just think back to how your old shop was is all I can say really. Rent could be solved if you sign a longer lease, if you’re willing to stay out that way for a while.

General Insanity

Depends on how it's divided, if the centre is left open so the tenants all share it I could see that starting quite a few disagreements, but the sheer history and being able to say you have a workshop in a old model T factory has some appeal and makes for a real cool talking point, personally on the face of it I wouldn't take the deal but damn I'd be tempted

Taylor Gingerich

Sounds like the building has some really nice history and that the landlord would be really helpful, but I gotta say that I don't know that it would be worth getting because it is such an old building. Now with saying that, the interior doesn't look all too bad, just a little work and the place could look good again, but with an old building comes its own problems. I don't know if I could decide on it. But it being an old Model T factory is really cool.

Forrest Clark

I think the commute would be a major pain in the ass

Gingium

Very true! But I'm also never going to find a perfect shop. Everything will have some sort of con.

Gingium

Yeah some white interior paint would do wonders

Gingium

It would be very cool all finished and re-vamped

Gingium

All very good points! It would indeed be similar to the old old shop

Gingium

There would be a wall put up across the building about where the stack of pallets are. No sharing necessary! Its definitely cool & unique but I could imagine some issues arising.

Gingium

Its certainly a tough decision. Very cool, but potentially a very bad mistake.

Gingium

You're not wrong! But the commute is 90% curvy, traffic free, backroads which is cool!

Dustin Cotton

It looks like a great shop!! But, it being an hour drive away, I would vote no. 😭

Dominic Moore

Looks a bit cursed to me at the moment. But I'm sure it would look badass in the end!

Cobra427

as nice as it would be to get a new shop as soon as possible, I just don't think the hour drive is worth it, the fact that it's curvy roads with no traffic? that sounds cool, but I'm not sure if the pros outweigh the cons

Armando Muria

I would say take it. It's has a lot of potential. The one hour drive is a test drive for your builds haha. Greetings from Spain!

Carlo Vicenzetto

Kinda bad that it's an hour away, could really mess you up with stress, I think you should keep looking

Luuk Listing

I don't know. I mean the current market makes it very hard to find a better shop on short notice. It is a stone building right? So isolating, or weatherproofing it is doable. Is the landlord going to fix the problems before you sign or after you sign? Because who says he will do a good job lol. I think I would go for it IF there was an option to sign it for a (relatively) short period of time, like 6 months or 1 year. You could maybe in the meanwhile find something better and move there after this lease ends. In my opinion the long commute is a big con. Those 2 hours of driving are going to suck after a while. I believe your working days are long enough as they are. Ps. Is that v70 R yours? 😀

Kaleb

I'd do it if nothing comes up by November, I think it's your best bet so far.

Gingium

Unfortunately I'd have to sign the lease nowish.

Maddie

Has a lot of potential. It does need updating and renovations. But it definitely has potential

Diederik Joziasse

if the floor is level than go for it but needs work so that is gonna ad costs

EvanTheNerd 1

I'm not sure about this one, just not sure.

Andrew Becker

Do it, it's far better than nothing and the landlord seems petty cool to work with. I assume it's only a one year lease, it'll be up before you know it. In the mean time you can get to know other ppl and other places for a better shop at a better location next year. Find a great shop that you know the tenants will be leaving and get in with the owner so you can get first dibs before it goes on the market kinda thing next year. Your first shop was an hour away and that sure didn't stop your friends from coming. In the mean time it'll give you a space to create the kinda content that you want to create.

Jeff Meyer

- Make sure the floor is thick enough for a lift - Sharing a shop with someone else as a youtuber might be rough, they might be loud or not respect when you need to record(imagine trying to talk in a vid and someone's grinding on something) - I get you need a shop, and pickings are slim so if you are willing to deal with the drive, sharing the shop, relying on the owner to upgrade things, etc, then send it. Most your supporters will stay here either way.

Gingium

The shops will be physically separated by a wall so noise and such shouldn't be too terrible. Still hesitant about the location.

Gingium

That's all a good point! My first shop was actually only 30 minutes away so this would be twice as far. Certainly rough

Andrew Becker

Okay, but what's the alternative? Will there be another shop? If so how long? How long did it take to find this one? It's such a gamble. Yeah commuting sucks but is not commuting worth not having a shop? 1hr commute is nothing compared to big metro area like Houston or SF. And who says you'd commute every day? Thoughts to think lol. 🤔

Gingium

All very true! Thank you for your input!

Xander Beasley

Give a little take a little. Nothing is forever and leasing for a few months to a year and still keeping an eye out for a better shop is never off the table. A few months to settle in and having the market cool down and mid time next year you'll know whether you love this shop or when the lease is up it's time to move. Pickings are slim and it sucks but with how much you want a shop and a place to fabricate it makes sense. People do wilder things they're less committed to then you are. No matter what I'll be watching, keep up the good work!

Brian Rice

I think you should still keep looking. This thing is going to need a lot of work and it still not be comfortable to work in. This coupled with the long drive to and from would be a pass for me.

Timothy Atkinson

How are the floors for installing a lift? Is there enough ceiling height to install the lift you want and actually put the vehicles you need to up on it? Got enough room to maneuver between the poles? I'd drop a tape measure and triple check that you're comfortable working/driving around the poles for sure. Other than that I'd go for it, lotsa space for a decent price, and has the electrical hook ups that are critical for good fab content. As others have said you don't have to stay there forever, you made do in your first shop for a year despite water intrusion etc. This could be a stepping stone and at the very least will give the market a chance to cool off.

Jose A. Garcia

I would say keep an eye out for another shop. While it would be cool to be building a shop there, but I am concerned about the structure of the building. The support beams do seem like they may be an issue and say you end up getting another large vehicle(Adventure Bus v.2 ?) it would be difficult in maneuver around. I would like to see what the owner has planned in terms of remodeling and whether there are any ways of modernizing the building and possibly being able to open up some space inside to make it easier to work in. It would be sick seeing an old model T be used as a modern day shop, but i am feel a bit skeptical as of right now. Keep at it and will be looking forward to any future updates!

Micah Lumsden

Is it tall enough to lift vans and trucks?

Micah Lumsden

Also, before you left Illinois, you were talking about keeping a bunch of things in stock at the new shop anyway so it could turn into a smaller issue if you consider that.

Gabe V

If worse comes to worse you can stay for the lease and continue to look for another shop to move into when the lease end at least it gives you time only problem would be moving the shop again.

Glenn9K

I would actually keep looking. The pillars will get very annoying (I have a few annoying pillars of my own...). Also, that commute does not sound fun at all. Being in the middle of nowhere is probably not a big issue though, but driving 2 hours each day just to get to and from work.. Nah.

Daxton Koester

Being divided? So there'd be a stranger renting the other half next to you? That's recipe for disaster. I wouldn't do it.

Jeff Meyer

That sounds good. How long is the lease? The commute is probably the worst thing about it imo, nothing like dreading a drive to work every day, especially in 'enthusiast' cars haha.

Michal Pospíšil

Go for it, its bether than other choices and its fricking model-t factory. You can still look fore something bether.

Matt Cayton

Looks sweet but I just can’t see myself driving to work on my cars that far away when if I needed something it’s no less than an hour of my time getting that part. Seems like the cons outweigh the pros in my opinion

S shiggy Y

when it comes down to would i do it personally , no i think them timbers will get in the way , i recon u should stay patient an the perfect shop will pop up .

Anthony Zubillaga

curvy backroads with little traffic can be an hour cut in half if youre in the right car ;)

Stephen Landon

The more I think about it, the more I think you should go for it... But only if the money makes sense. Also, I'd consider it an interim shop and be ready to jump (and plan on paying lease penalty) when the "perfect" shop opens up. I might even skip installing a lift (or get those portable half height lifts). Whatever you do, make it easily movable. Eventually the resources to make another move to your forever shop possible will be available.

Skid_valve

At this point take what you can get go for it plus it’s a cool building