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iemiliah

AYYY im on time

iemiliah

will root my for my c planet babies😭🥹have the best time at kcon!!

Corrr50

wow i just finished the k video like 2 seconds ago 🙌🏻😂

Kim Soobin

I cannot with the jerseys

wick 🕯️

the caption and the thumbnail ooof yeah... exactly :(

CRTJ

the caption had me screaming 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

piffy

well!

Melly

I can’t even watch the real episode so I’m glad to watch with you both so I don’t feel so alone in this misery

Willow

i heard this was a tough watch so i literally waited to watch it with you two because i can't handle the stress alone lol. Sad to hear a lot of c-trainees were eliminated so early (too early imo)

CRTJ

dang hong hai!!!! what a diva!!!!

CRTJ

vietnam better mobilize its people to vote for dang hong hai! yall better make sure this diva will make it to the debut group!

Lazycloud

I'm so glad Jiang Fan got a storyline . As a fellow Universe League fan, I was waiting for this reaction to see the Jiang Fan love haha. Honestly, I love a lot of contestants so I'm now just building a team based on what I think the debut team concept will be which will probably be Enhypen coded. Dark and sexy. My lineup for now is: 1) Lee Sang Won 2) An Xin 3) Lee Leo 4) Zhang Jia Hao 5) Yeom Ye Chan 6) Nian Bo Heng 7) Park Dong Gyu 8) Jiang Fan

rzeka

The way Adam reads Sun Hengyu's name is actually the correct way. Some korean transliteration choices truely baffle me, but again I do not speak korean (btw its the same with Hsu Ching Yu, the Taiwanese dancer boy from planet k, it's yu not yi)

Alissa

this was honestly very hard and sad for me to watch LOL. about the jaejoong telling someone to lose weight, I was actually shocked at how strong the reaction against that was on the k-side as well, so much so that Jaejoong actually addressed it

Alissa

also i think it's actually nutty how annoyed the masters/a few k-fans get at the c trainees not knowing as much Korean as if they didn't just find out they would be debuting in Korea like 3 days before the show...were they supposed to learn a whole other language in such a short amount of time...?

McKala Hanes

Me voting for as many C Planet trainees as possible bc of the anti Chinese behavior they're dealing with. AND they're talented but

sun

The way dang hong hai shushed lim jack hahahahaha. Saw someone say they wished dang hong hai would also meet sho from k planet and I died 😭 poor lim jack and he zhong xing (sexy guy).....i feel like the kpop group system wants cohesive groups where synchronisation and compliance are valued over individuality so people like jack and zhong xing tend to suffer.

lucy

I get so mad watching this, this is so unfair. Please everyone it would be great if you vote majority for c trainees as the voting counts 50% korea and 50% global. And the korean public is clearly voting for the k trainees, so the global audience is their only chance.🥲 Also kinda unrelated but have you seen krystian coming out on insta?

Brittany

Mnet is so very wrong or what they are doing to Planet C. There is no way they plan to allow more than 2 Planet C trainees in this debut lineup. I'm just hoping many of my faves can make it far for the visibility. I will be voting all Planet C trainees for now.

Candice Blair

As a Boy Story fan, it pissed me off. Hanyu’s weight has never hindered his performance, and Boy Story has high-intensity choreography. He lost his balance for a quick second, as anyone can do on the stage, regardless of weight.

Jennie M

I haven’t even started it yet but I have a feeling that this is not going to be a fun one based off the minor spoilers I saw

Sarah

Based on the latest trailer and some of the ranks they showed, they did combine K & C trainees scores and took the top 80 from there. Which were based on 70% judge score and 30% fancam views. But it still doesn't make sense how someone like Dang Hong Hai went down a level, while having high fancam views + being an All Star trainee after evaluation. Did they re-score him? Also, once the production team found out they needed to combine the shows, they 100% threw in this bs criteria knowing the K trainees would have higher views on Youtube, and that would either move them up a rank or keep them at stasis. Using preshow fancam views to determine who goes home was dumb and getting rid of 70% of the C trainees was pure malice, no question about it. So many of them deserved to stay. Random stray thoughts: -He Zhong Xing (the sexy guy) is straight up being bullied by production and they're not letting up. Seeing the life slowly drain out of him is heart-breaking. Also, he did well during his signal song test. -Lim Jack is such a sweet guy but was wholly unprepared for this show + was set up by the masters. An editor for Planet C came out and said that everyone cried a lot when he was eliminated :( -Jaejoong was on demon time this episode and so many of his comments were so unnecessary. -Eliminated C trainees said Xiaoting was always super kind and as the only master who spoke fluent Chinese, she noticed when they messed up the lyrics but never told on them lol

M Chen

I'm just happy that the eliminated c-trainees are exposing the amount of shit treatment they received while they were filming. I know survival shows are known for bad treatment, but what crossed the line for me was when they (contestants) said on lives that they were literally scavenging/rationing food & snacks because they were fed so poorly. Anyways, when you even have k-nets siding with the c-trainees, you know it's baaaddddd.

A

did he fucking tell them to lose weight lol

Jamell N

Heavy on that caption.

Brittany

Jaejoong was definitely on one this episode. I understand the beauty standards in kpop but like why would you make a comment like that in front of everyone. 😡 I've heard people saying he's actually underweight for his age and height. My heart just hurts for him.

CRTJ

they made him work and sweat🤣🤣🤣 I don’t know if he signed up for that 🤣🤣🤣

Jongho’s Purple Hair

Even if it's one debut group, surely it should be top 40 of K-Planet and top 40 of C-Planet trainees?? This is now like a 70/30 K-C planet ratio... debut group is for sure not gonna be equal

Candice Blair

Yeah, he's talking about losing weight in a letter he posted over the weekend.

CRTJ

not pei pa koa🤣🤣🤣🤣

Alissa

apparently in a lot of the fan polls the only c-trainee in the top 8 is anxin....obviously that could be not accurate but I wouldn't even be surprised at this point just because of how off the ratio is

CRTJ

we did it joe!!! 🤣🤣🤣 I think I’m a Jiang Fan fan

rzeka

I was so mad when I first watched this episode alone, now watching it again with yall all I feel is heartbreak. I have no words.

CRTJ

jaejoong I need you to leave the show or your career literally might end… these comments gurl

Alissa

I knew little to nothing about Boystory coming into this but that actually filled me with so much rage. None of them (or even any of the trainees at all) are even close to overweight, and even if they were as you said that should not be a minus point of a performance...Jaejoong was just talking to talk and had the nerve to say on instagram that it was an evil edit when those words literally came out of his mouth? made me lose a lot of respect for him tbh.

Lazycloud

I keep coming back to this reaction just to revel in the Jiang Fan love haha

Jongho’s Purple Hair

Omg😭 there are so many talents in C-planet that r getting overlooked

h

its just the same old bull**** all over again

fe~

Someone said on Twitter that by focusing so much on Zhong xing being bad mnet is actually trying to show everyone that it reflects the quality of the majority c group’s trainees hence so many people are eliminated. Like mnet is trying to manipulate us viewers. Jaejoong to me now is not trustworthy is mnet using him to push a certain narrative?? or he truly believes zhong xing is THAT bad? Cause I think he did well enough to at least maintain his 2 stars

Malika

Would not be surprised if anxin is the only Chinese member in this final lineup. I wonder how many Chinese trainees are gonna even make the finals

Lauren

This was just as rough to watch the 2nd time. At this point I'm only voting for C trainees!

Kal Haze

Eliminations are tough to watch but this one was extremely difficult I was very shocked and then I got really angry and now when I watch it, I cry. Because the c-trainees were really not expecting this at all, if mnet made it 40/40 it would be fair because idk what crap criteria is this that only the c- trainees were eliminated. The editing in this episode also, like they want us to dislike Mr. Sexy guy, he is really getting the bad edits for sure. They also barely showed the good performances (they montaged those), almost highlighted the ones which were not good. I do not know how the c-trainees will fit with k-trainees especially 1) with the language and 2) some of them were not under any korean agency so there will alot of difficulty and last 3) the korean audience are not fans of voting for inter-idols

herewego

I've never quite liked Jaejoong and I couldn't pinpoint why. His behaviour here really doesn't make him any more likable...oh well

ashley

to be fair it seems rational to me that most of the eliminated trainees are from the c group considering they averaged the scores from both k and c group and took the top 80. do remember it is 70% judges and 30% from views. most of the c trainees already have low views add the fact that there seems to be a difference on how c trainees and k trainees are evaluated its not actually not that shocking. is it fair? no the c trainees definitely did not deserve it considering it also isn't really what they signed up for

Sam

I have nothing against Anxin but it is interesting how he maintained his all star position. I feel like other trainees were given more flak for the same "mistakes" he did? But! We do only see the few minutes they show us so maybe there's a lot more that went into the deliberation. Maybe I'm being subconsciously biased as well. Among the options they narrowed down to, I do get why Anxin won and he did do a good job as the center!

A

wow that SUCKED to watch!! so glad to be doing it through y'all's commentary not alone... Also now that i'm done... i didn't see yall discuss krystian's IG post yet!! i was also peeking in the discord to see if yall had seen it... excited to hear your thoughts ❤️🏳️‍🌈❤️

monika

Such a stupid system I really don’t understand why they didn’t just evaluate the planets separately and make it 40+40

gingerale

Absolutely diabolical of mnet considering how this started with two supposedly "equal" shows.

Sam

Did they decide to merge the shows after the big chop or did they make big chops because of the merging? Because the trainees' ranks here + there being only 28 from Planet C but 52 from Planet K..... 🥶 It's funny how a lot of people say this season isn't any worse than the previous ones HAHAHHAFNFKMD The editing and the whole storylines for selected trainees isn't anything new and is typical from Mnet but I'd say there are a lot of questionable decisions made re this show 😭

Sam

It’s so validating seeing how so many people are pissed off at this episode because AAAAA 😵‍💫

Redaurorae _

Lim Jack is Chinese but he just sucks at speaking it 😂

piffy

truly like even the way he was towards the remaining trainees at the end gave me the ick cuz it seemed like it was just an obligation rather than genuine. im rlly wondering how its going to be when they merge if jaejoong is going to be as harsh to the korean trainees as he we to C planet, cuz rn its reading REALLY bad. wish they wld've brought hao or xiaoting at the end esp since the eliminated trainees said how sweet they both were :(((

rob andres

there's always a narrative by mnet :P

Sam

Exactly HAHAHAHA I'm expecting either a leadership arc soon or maybe they'll stick to the whole being a fast learner thing. I do hope we get to see more of his personality because even from the little we've seen, I feel like he'll probably grow on me. He's currently not in my rotation for the votes but I won't be surprised if he makes it in the next eps 😭

lia

Nothing beats Boys Planet at making me smile one second and get pissed off the next! Ughhh.

Brittany

The tears that well in my eyes everytime I see Jiang Fan. This is justice from UL!!! I feel like such a proud mom 🥹

Savids

Lynn Lynn 😭😭

A

The reason the shows were merged was because originally CJ ENM had a deal with Yuehua to manage the debuted C-group but Yuehua pulled out last minute over a disagreement. Wakeone and CJ ENM don't have the resources to manage 2 new groups or a Chinese group, so they merged the shows and decided to only debut one group under Wakeone.

Auburn

I still can't get over this show being like 'and your rank was helped chosen by Star Creators'.... without us knowing?? Like I didn't do anything?? Don't blame me!

Lily

The irony if he gets canceled again because of this

Auburn

for me, truly the only light in all this darkness is Jiang Fan and Nian Bo Heng being recognized for their talents. I've been voting for them and, since the beginning, Bo Heng caught my eye. I'm so relieved his edit is nice. This show makes me so anxious for the boys :(

Candice Blair

Straight lied on us to cover their mess.

Auburn

it's giving, we're making things up as we go along

CRTJ

he’s already getting cancelled… he posted an apology but its half assed and did not even accept that his comments are hurtful and harmful

Candice Blair

Well, they shouldn't have planned this way since, of course, the K group would always have the advantage. It's not fair that the C trainees were told one thing, and it was switched on them.

Kassie Delong

Y’all getting annoyed at the Sexy guy is so funny. I said this out loud “I like that Sexy Boy. I think he’s funny.” 😂

Sel

Zhongxing treatment pissed me off so much omg I feel like it’s perfectly normal for someone that’s used to practice alone to find uncomfortable/hard doing it with 20 other people + having at least some of those same people saying you aren’t working hard when you actually are, definitely wouldn’t make you more inclined to practice with them… it was only 3 days of practice too

Candice Blair

Anywho, Boy Story is more in limbo than disbanded. The two youngest are focusing on their studies, and one just got off a hiatus for dating allegations. These three were the only active members, thus why they were on the show. I believe Hanyu's confidence was shot, but when I hear about what C contestants went through, it irks me. When you watch his fancam for the signal song, he absolutely should've been able to stay.

Sel

They didn’t do 40-40 because they wanted to lessen the “risks” of having too many c trainees in the final line up. This is the only explanation that makes sense to me because they knew damn well, even without checking, that c planet fancams had less engagements and it would be a huge disadvantage for them having this as a criteria.

CRTJ

so far… may c planet picks are dang hong hai… zhou anxin… jiang fan… the k picks are currently junseo… yumeki… junghyun jun… and woojin… I’m still thinking if the wakeone situation should affect my decision of rooting for him but I like him a lot

CRTJ

I swear xiaoting is about to leave this show… like girl was not having it with all the bs that mnet keeps on doing

CRTJ

they made hao work and sweat🤣🤣🤣 I don’t know if he signed up for that 🤣🤣🤣

CRTJ

wait did the guy who did wanna one’s never survived???

imani

I understand the deal for a separate chinese group falling through, but one of my biggest gripes is that Mnet is not going to give chinese votes the extra weight that korean votes are given, even though they'll obviously have chinese comebacks like HELLO??? China's finally opening up their entertainment industry to korea again, so don't you want your first project group to be successful??

Phoenix Wright

Making fancam views count for an elimination is crazy especially because Youtube is blocked in China which places Chinese trainees at a huge disadvantage because their domestic audience isn't freely able to watch and stream

Tbows

Wow that’s so unfair I didn’t even know it was banned

Chuchu Online

yeah yall are the only way I'm watching this show. Justice for C Planet (Nouer go please pull your trainees back now we can have NouerAEVNNE)

Vanessa Gutierrez

Yes!! It bothers me so much how they pronounce the names. I don’t even speak Chinese and know it’s wrong.

helloadriene

The M in Mnet stands for MESS girl bc wtf

Jasmine

His apology was basically “Mnet made me do it”. At his grown age..

Lily

My thinking too! Like it seems like this much obvious disrespect for C contestants could start to affect relations betw the counties. Like what's to be gained from this?

❣️ Vladlena ❣️

5:43 — RJ: “I already knew Sexy was gonna piss me off.” And by the end of the episode, I think we all ended up sympathizing with him 🙈

❣️ Vladlena ❣️

As for Zhao Guang Xu (Lynn Lynn) — he was really good in Project 7. I don’t know what happened to him in B2P. Is the difference in difficulty between these two shows really that huge? I’m heartbroken that Lim Jack was eliminated. He’s too bright and full of life for Korean society — they just don’t like free-spirited people 😒. I’m convinced he could have improved if they’d given him more time and done something other than criticize his every move. And now for the good: I’m glad Jiang Fan finally got screen time and an actual storyline! He deserves it — every trainer noticed his talent and skills 🔥 Poor red‑headed kung fu boy being abandoned on the show by his famous cousin really hurt me 😭 But this kid has potential and the right attitude by Korean standards, so I’ll be rooting for him! And I was the most amazed by Chen Bo Wen — he’s just 17, but already so damn good at both dancing and singing! I’m seriously impressed 👏

Ziggy_Zade

The only good thing about this episode was the featuring of Jiang Fan. And Krystian running to instagram to call Mnet for their flop behavior and to come out as he did so!

Gueret Gee

wow that elimination was diabolical I feel so bad for these trainees so much talent just down the drain because they decided to change the concept of the show.

Daniel

Xiaoting being the best judge on Planet C fr! One of the eliminated trainees said that whenever they messed up the lyrics in the Signal Song Test + none of the judges spoke Chinese, Xiaoting would tell them that she liked the "changes" that the trainees made to the lyrics so that they could be scored less harshly :((((

aerifia

i absolutely HATE how they did the final rankings. the fan vote thing makes no sense and why is there such a huge discrepancy between surviving C group and surviving K group?? it's so ridiculous

Daniel

Gotta remember that Anxin is one of the best dancers in C Planet! Even Sun Hengyu said that he learned the choreo faster than the other All-Stars (around 1:24:43).

Sam

Oh I definitely agree that he’s a great dancer and I didn’t miss him being a fast learner (as per my other reply). My original comment was mainly about how other trainees would be crucified for not singing the song fully (at least that’s what mnet tries to show whenever this happens) and is nothing against Anxin himself

Sam

Saw this on twt as well!! 🥺 I am living for the eliminated trainees speaking about their experiences on B2P lol (especially when they’re dragging mnet 😌🤭)

aerifia

holy shit what an excellent point. they had no chance. i'm kinda super pissed about this lol

Clara V.P

the way Adam got progressively angrier in disbelief girl me too

Molly Yemi

I definitely don’t think they decided on the numbers because of the merge. The decision to merge came out publicly 2 months ago and this elimination happened around 1 month ago (or even less) cause it was “allegedly” based on our views of the signal song……. I think the decision to base classes off the combined scores of K planet and C planet was deffo a last min one though. They probs don’t want to even potentially risk another foreign P01 even though Korean votes were also going to favour Korean trainees anyway 🙄🙄🙄🙄

kaiser

Changing from 2 shows to 1 show really mess it up. They could've just added more songs to perform in the battle mission to lessen the need to eliminate more trainees early on.

Ally

They used Youtube likes.... to count the top 80 trainees total across both groups... when Youtube is blocked in China...???? That had to be intentional to cut majority C trainees. A mess.

Secretninja312 (Tina)

I need to know exactly how this elimination criteria was created and how it was decided who’s rank goes to zero because even with the whole 70/30 judges/viewers breakdown it doesn’t make sense how some of the more popular guys ended up in no star in the end. Like I’m pretty sure Binghua had the 2nd most viewed fancam and was 2nd in the first impression votes yet he was eliminated. And Cai Jinxin was #2 after episode 1 and #5 during this episode which means he had high votes prior to the show starting so how is he gone. Also it just feels like they did Planet K eliminations first and was like “whelp, there’s 28 spots left, that’s all we’re taking from C” like it seems like they were ranked separately and planet C just got whatever openings they had left after K. Actually the clear difference in just the benefits K got vs C is infuriating to see. Like they’re not even trying to hide the fact Planet C’s treatment is shit. K’s all star rooms were so much nicer and K’s rooms were overall bigger than C. K got to have video calls with their family while C only got phone calls. And K got Northface training gear while C got regular jerseys (though the jerseys look nicer to me). Also, where is C’s therapy dog? It almost feels like they blew their C budget in that fancy elimination doorway. Anyways, I really hope the treatment improves now that they’re merged with K

Candice Blair

This is the first time Boy Story is without their eldest hyung, like wtf. Just ugh.

Secretninja312 (Tina)

As cringe as I feel about Mr Sexy, it does hurt to see how broken he looks at the end of the episode compared to the beginning. I do think he needed to be knocked down a peg or two but not the way they’ve been going about it scolding him. I wish someone would idk, sit down with him and talk and help him understand that this is idol training, you’re going to have to learn to work with all kinds of people and blend in with others. It’s good to have individualism and be confident/comfortable with who you are, but when you’re in a group you’re not a one man show, there’s a time and place to stand out and time and place to blend with a group.

dizzy

not sure if this has been said already so please ignore if yall already know lol but when writing mandarin names (or mandarin in general) in korean, it’s hard to get an exact pronunciation as some sounds won’t exist in one or the other language (which we already know). kinda like how the english ‘f’ sound doesn’t exist in korean so they use ‘p’ instead. in mandarin the pronunciation for yu is a little complicated if ur not a native speaker, so the next closest thing is 위 (wee). i also just wanna add for funsies that the ‘e’ used in romanized mandarin (pinyin) is more of a ‘u’ sound (so heng yu is more like hung yu) and the ‘i’ when used after a zh, ch, z, c, r, or s, it’s similar to the ‘i’ pronunciation when u say shirt !!

Candice Blair

If you know the reactor Jeff Avenue, he also said it's normal that some people can't practice with a lot of people because it's overstimulation. I believe it's a difference between 20+ vs six people as well. Also, just made me vote for him.

Candice Blair

Probably knows more Korean than Chinese and has spoken English most of his life. Depends on what his family used in the household. A member of NEXZ is Korean, but he speaks Japanese better cause it's where he lived.

nat

it's kind of crazy that lee seokhoon in this episode feels like the most actual teaching in regards to vocals we've seen in the entire planet series 😭 throws me back to produce time when soyou was a vocal master because they showed her actively giving advice to people lol. xiaoting is the sweetest girl in the world, some of the trainees went on live once the episode aired and talked about her (and hao!) and how supportive she was/how well she treated them. i have a feeling the reason she did so much direct translating was both to phrase things in a more delicate and productive way and because on girls planet there was practically no translation being provided to the girls, they all basically had to puzzle it out themselves which led to a lot of misunderstandings and drama, particularly between the c-group girls and the other two groups 😔 she's such a doll i love her so much.

nat

so yeah, while there were some great moments in this episode, especially with all the camaraderie between the contestants and how supportive they were to one another, jaejoong's unfair comments towards the boys story boys and the ending made it genuinely the WORST episode of television i have ever seen in my life and mnet needs to die by my hands

Secretninja312 (Tina)

I believe Lim Jack is ethnically Chinese but born/raised in Australia. My guess is, he doesn’t speak Mandarin with his family because the few times he’s said anything in Mandarin, they’ve been pretty bad pronunciation wise. and on the cousin thing with Zhang Shun-yu, it does sound like they are actually cousins. The word he used was “Biao Ge” which typically means an older male cousin from your mother’s side. You would sometimes also refer your parent’s cousin’s kid as your cousin too, but I don’t think it’s common to address someone who isn’t family as a cousin (they’d call them brother/sister/uncle/ auntie) so I do think they’re related somehow in the extended family realm.

Candice Blair

I don't think it's because he doesn't want to work in a group necessarily, because he came on the show with a group, but it was just too many people at once practicing and it was overstimulating for him to focus.

Sam

This is what I got from that whole scene as well! It’s probably really just because he couldn’t focus and practice well with so many people since he mentioned that he’s always been doing so alone. I can’t blame him because looking at the one star room practice room was making feel slightlyy claustrophobic 🥲🥲🥲

moon

there's soooo much i could say about how awful watching this episode live was (k-planet was bad too, but that one was bad in a different way lol) and how blatant it is that mnet + wakeone are still mad about zhang hao getting p01, etc etc. this show genuinely feels like it's hexed at this point, and i'm purposely putting as many trainees from c-planet as possible in my voting list to spite mnet lmao the saving grace of this episode was seeing jiang fan FINALLY get appreciated. i don't know how the hell he got one-star from his audition!! they showed a preview of it in one of the teasers, but then never aired it in the episode -- i watched it later after they posted it, and he did fine! he easily could have been in two-star!! but at least he's getting appreciated now, i guess... and even the judges admit he sang the signal song better than some of k-planet WHILE recovering from sickness. very happy to see lynnlynn (zhao guangxu) too!! i've been waiting to see him!!! jaejoong's comments towards hanyu (the guy from boystory who got comments about his weight, which. he's not even heavy. he literally just has a round face. but whatever.) rightfully caused such a stir that he actually had to address it. while doing that, he implied that the judges would take storyline potential into account when giving out star ranks. so these ranks really mean absolutely nothing lmao anyway i'm heartbroken about he junjin going home :( he said in a stream afterwards that it wasn't aired, but he'd helped some other trainees with vocal lessons and those guys ended up going up to all-star. and he was the one talking to sen in english trying to help him with the lyrics. thrilled to see jiang fan finally getting appreciated, but losing junjin in the same sweep... my heart 😭😭😭

Secretninja312 (Tina)

Yeah that’s a good point. Some people do learn better in a close off environment. If that’s the case, I do wish he would communicate that to the rest of guys instead of all of them assume he’s not practicing. Though I can also see that as Msnakes editing 😔

Secretninja312 (Tina)

Btw, if you guys haven’t seen Krystian’s latest instagram posts you should check them out 👀

Clare

I’ll say it, that single tear from Jia Yang was cinema

tev

I believe they knew they were merging at this point, because they announced it publicly while they were filming the first episode. So these cuts were honestly just unnecessary, making them even more infuriating.

erin

I'm glad I'm not the only one who pauses sometimes to reflect and think of Jongwoo's old face

Boys Love Boys Love!

my pinyin lessons from elementary school just reactivated seeing those sounds 😅

Kara Marshall

...I almost don't even want to watch anymore because of how they are doing the C planet kids dirty. Why bother having an international group if you really only want Koreans? I'm physically ill.

Shmatreflon

I was so worried Jiang Fan wouldn't get this (or any) storyline because they gave him almost no reaction shots in ep 1, and 0 screen time in the preview for this week's ep. But I was so so so so happy to see this. He's getting seeeeeeeen!!!! <3

dizzy

no frrrr god i remember my little practice book for writing characters, the one where u do it over and over in the squares 😭😭 i took 3 years of mandarin in highschool but after i graduated i didn’t go any further with it, instead ive been learning korean casually so its really interesting to see the crossover watching all these k survival shows

onlyonlysun

CHEN BOWEN FOR PRESIDENT

Peter

C trainees have been so mistreated by Mnet, it's not even funny. The entire show was structurally built to set them up to fail once the deal with the chinese management fell through.

Leah B

Ughh I'm too burnt out to rant about the treatment of C trainees anymore ANYWAYS Jiang Fan is crazy. That boy's vocal chords went through a meat grinder for 2 days before this perf and they were given the wrong practice video and he comes back and does THAT??! an icon. Takes me a week to get my voice back when I lose it and I'm not even singing.

Kayleigh

I had heard the vibes were bad before watching this week but I feel genuinely ill like what was the point. I agree with RJ that there were many eliminated C trainees who were better than some of the K trainees who made it through. It is especially crazy to me that people who were in the top 8 in the first round of voting were just eliminated how does that make sense?

ali bault

This one got me depressed fr

Reilly

Well I hated all of that

loontan

“…” is right

Savids

Hoping they bring it up in the recap 👀

Vick

can't wait to rage with you in the recap

eden

the anger, mnet you will crumble

Chy

There are so many things I could add that are leading to me being highly disappointed with this show and boarderlining on me not really wanting to watch it anymore. But my main point... Zhao Guang Xu and Xie Bing Hua... On Project 7 they both ranked very high for vocal especially, they nearly made it to the end of the show. I just can't believe they are doing so poorly on this show, or being judged unfairly on this show due to the limited number of spots... Not to mention Taiga (Nizi Project 2) and Sun Jia hao (Starlight Boys)who did extremely well on their previous survival shows. I am just so disappointed that this show wasn't split info two groups.

Chy

I was literally screaming at the TV during the eliminations

Chy

The difference between k and c is insane to me. Xenophobia at its best...

Chy

I was f****** dead when they announced how many would pass from this group..... I'm in shock

Chy

This show is the biggest mess out of all... This almost beats the starlight boys BS

Chy

I feel so sad for all these people who thought they might actually have a shot on this show. If you couldn't tell I'm pissed

Shmatreflon

Your silence is deafening. Yeah this was a bloodbath. And now that you say that they kept the top 80 I definitely think that they had already decided to merge shows at this point. I just have to keep reminding myself that choosing to watch this show and participate is optional and supposed to be fun. I have no control over production and their choices, and I knew going into this that, not only do they have a terrible reputation for making bad decisions during production, but I knew that they ALREADY had made terrible choices on THIS production in particular. Just trying to remain positive and root for the boys that are still around. The optics are terrible, but I'm watching this show to have fun. It's an entertainment program. I can't let it cut me too deep, even when dreams are being crushed.

Shmatreflon

He's my c planet po1 for surrrrrrre

Jem

OH My GOD! Adam!!! Girl, I feel you. Watching this episode made me so upset.

fe~

I’m voting all C from now on

Laynie McGrail

that's so dirty... also, did they ever explicitly say this was the criteria? I only remember being told to vote...

Alissa

even with the extra content of both groups reacting to episode 1, kfans were pointing out how K group got a whole cinema like space vs a random room with chairs for C group...it's so blatant that it's almost laughable at this point

mwonk mwonk

cutting that many people was messed up... i understand why c trainees are gunna get pissed at the k trainees tho, they all saw their friends' spots get taken by a less talented person...

Louise 787

I dropped the show after I found out that all my faves were eliminated. I hate this show so much. It is so unfair. Evan on Produce 101 participants who were in F had a chance to perform on a stage and only after were voted. And here the participants were given a stupid signal song, which is hard not only for the rappers but also for vocalists to be sang. Bring me back my boy Lim Jack, he is a good rapper, i don`t give af if he can`t sing, he can just rap, i`ll be fine. The staff members also spelt the tea and said he was practicing so hard and when he was eliminated everyone cried. Plus after the voting he was 12th.... And i don`t know why were so many good trainees eliminated when they showed us the signal song performance and everything was so good? The dance, the facial expressions, the vocals. So much discrimination (eliminated boys spelt so much tea and i am shocked), lookism and fat shaming. Jaejoong disappointed me so much too. Planet C was so fun to watch at the 1st episode and now this is the show i see in my nightmares. There is no way I will stan the final group after all of this.

moonbean12

Literally don't understand what the criteria was for elimination.... the highest voted ranking contestant they eliminated from k-group was rank 13 Lee Hyeop......while on the C-group side they eliminated rank 5 (Cai Jin-xin), rank 10 (Xuan Hao), and rank 12 (Lim Jack). Make it make sense... right right star creators... right right daily voting on Mnet Plus matters. Sure.

stephanie44

idk i kinda want to, but i also have favs from kpop group, and want to vote for them

Angel

They said ‘Star Creators have made their choices’ and we Star Creators were like “❓tf are you talking abt?⁉️” I’m going to vote for Seo Won and 7 C-trainees, that’s it. (There were rumors saying they will only keep C trainees based on how many K trainees remaining, thats why when there were like 50 smth K trainees remaining, C- trainees number will be 80 - 5X… )

stephanie44

true, i feel bad for the sexy guy, he isnt that bad. looks like the show doesnt really like him, same with lim jack. he did clearly take it seriously

stephanie44

i like c trainess, but really? theyre are so many great k trainees. cant understand you there

stephanie44

true, i feel bad for the sexy guy (and i bet its gonna get worse, with the preview for the next ep)

stephanie44

i agree, with exception of the rooms, i think the c rooms are nicer

Lauren

I have plenty of K trainees I like too, but I know they'll be getting votes from Koreans anyway. If I want any chance of my favourite C trainees surviving, I need to be just voting for them

Alice

With all of those eliminations I was surprised that I only had to cross a couple people off my list, I guess I'm good at picking them... But I don't have a lot of hope that they'll last much longer at this rate, Planet K is pretty strong tbh

Yana (scarytheory)

I had time to process it and accept it, but uff, I was so pissed after the episode! I think that if K Planet had only Korean trainees and C Planet only global trainees, then I’d believe the elimination would be 50:50 (or closer to it). But with international trainees in the K group, merging it 50:50 would actually mean fewer Koreans in the show, so it somehow makes sense. Still, it’s SO UNFAIR to the C contestants :( Not even talking about the fact that they didn't intend to compete against K trainees, and most of them probably don't speak Korean. I'm scared for the next episode. :(

Shi Yau

Rigamarolis

Shi Yau

Xuan Hao is completely able to take CBL by storm is only he knew that as well

sharon

well!!!! that was as horrible to watch as i expected it. i'll be voting C from now on ☝️

fe~

i have a feeling it’s only gonna get even worst next episodes you can’t help but root for him they are crushing his spirit at this point I hate it so much TT

Vince Ginel Barba

The merge was announced after they shot the first episode, the first class placement. I feel bad for the C trainees, they joined expecting to compete with fellow C Trainees, and debut in China, probably why many trainees left voluntarily. Although, they did mention during auditions that they'll have activities with the K-debut group. But merging them and limiting it to still 8 people for the debut is another level

Ms. T

C PLANET DOESNT EVEN GET A DOG? Aren’t they in the same compound? So the dog has a barrier on how far it’s allowed to go from one side to the other? I’m so confused. Also. The trailer for the next episode is stressing me out. I’m hoping there is less tension than advertised. They all deserve better.

renok

That’s correct. He speaks Korean fairly well as he has been training in Korea!!

Pixie

Damn, that was hard to watch. I never normally vote during survival shows cus I'm more of a casual viewer, but I literally just downloaded the app now. You best believe I'll be voting for all C trainees after watching that targeted take own. I feel like Jaejoong is kinda the poster boy for the cycle of idol trauma. His group had it so insanely bad from like every level that so much of toxic idol culture is fully normalised for him. I think you can see it when he interviews younger idols or just talks about his idol days, it's like he never got the room to process how horrific a lot of the things that happened to him were, and so never moved on from a time where companies and fans didn't even pretend that they didn't view idols purely as products. I remember seeing him talk about how he got sexually assaulted by fans a couple of times, but back then it wasn't considered sexual assault because he was a man and they were a fan. Tvxq had some of the worst saesangs in kpop, like the amount of therapy that man must of needed (and hopefully recieved...) I feel like I'm watching him pass trauma down idol generations sometimes, but I genuinely don't think he's even conscious of how harmful his ideas of what a idol should be are. It's just the only way he knows how to be an idol.

Candice Blair

I get that person. I was only voting for Chinese contestants before this because my goal is for Boy Story only, and they are the only reason I watched it. K trainees have all the advantages. But after this epiode the clear favoritism was hard to watch.

boop

something about the star masters really only handing out 1 stars seems fishy... even if a K trainee isnt the best but they can see potential they give those trainees at least a two star but when it comes to the chinese trainees... why would they do that unless they just wanted to use those trainees but not really give them the opportunity to debut, cuz the lower the amount of C group trainees there are in higher levels, the lower the chance of any of them debuting... seems fishy and i understand the combining of K and C was not planned but if K and C have to combine and theres less C that just means C is basically not gonna debut because now everyone will vote K and the sheer amount of K will kick out C, everything is just so obviously not in favour of the chinese contestants and C group in general... ALSO i cant help but think what the chances are that during casting they purposely casted more C groups that they KNEW would look bad to make the korean trainees look better, we already know they cast for personality and whether or not they will make good tv, so it isnt farfetched

boop

yeah jaejoong is giving me mom who had trauma from their mom and is now claiming they want to break the cycle but is actually just becoming their own mother... which isnt entirely his fault, but...

Candice Blair

Exactly. You can't tell me that Hanyu or the others who got eliminated couldn't bounce back. They had to know Lim Jack's trainee experience, too, and tried to edited it like he wasn't a hard worker.

Jared

Woojin and at least 2 C boys better make it or I will not care about this group

Nina Sera

Me running to see if the recap is up yet bc the elimination numbers this week are WILD

Ayesha Patel

I wonder how comfortable of a watch this would have been if it was changsub instead of jaejoong

Lily

what an insightful take on Jaejoong

gerbie

I actually hate this show now and I already kinda hated it a little bit

Stephanie

i haven’t liked him since i heard the audio clip of him hitting an alleged sasaeng. a lot of people rationalize it saying he and his group had horrible sasaengs and i sympathize with their trauma, but hearing his tone of voice and the sounds of the slaps in that clip was absolutely horrifying. he said he did this countless times before (abusing women??? countless times??? excuse me???) it kills me how many fans dismiss this bc “sasaengs deserve it”. at the end of the day, it’s a powerful man hitting (most likely young) women and getting applauded for doing so.

rob andres

he is in ABO Desire but he's not with anyone just a support character

stephanie44

i still kinda like the show. tho it gets on my nerve sometimes

boop

exactly, all the C group trainees that could have bounced back or grow more got eliminated, while the ones that most likely will not make it past the next elimination got saved??? not to mention the voting was on yt which is BANNED in china and voting is now a combination of K and C, all this just means no one will be rooting for the C group trainees

Destiny

RJ you were diabolical for that Jongwoo line and Adam didn’t even catch it lmao.

Leah B

So bizarre to let us vote for contestants who were already back home wtf.

Leah B

After the auditions I went on youtube and watched all the unaired performances (how tf are we supposed to vote for people we don't even know exist MNET??) Anyways, saw Jiang Fan, said WHO IS THIS MAN?? he did great. I had no idea who he was and now he's getting my vote

Ariel

I think their rationale for not having 40+40 is that there won't be enough K-trainees. Cuz currently there are 10 non-korean trainees in K-Planet and 42 Korean trainees. After adding C-Planet; it's 42 Korean + 38 Non-Korean = 80. There are a few non-korean trainees in K-Planet that're popular and that could lead to lesser Korean trainees overall. Still unfair for a lot of C-Planet Trainees though. I was rooting for Sanglin (Nice Delinquent) and some others out of those eliminated 😣☹️

Ariel

Finally watched the whole thing. Was reluctant to watch alone cuz of all the things I read about Jaejoong's comments and stuff, but it wasn't as bad as social media made it seem; yes, there were certain painful moments like the elimination, but having known of who were eliminated since ep1 aired...I wasn't as affected. Also, there were statements by Jaejoong that made me roll my eyes but they weren't like cancel-worthy bad that deserve as much hate, and have been blown out of proportion. Undoubtedly unfair for C-Planet trainees though, wrt to certain differences as observed from K-planet and the eliminations...(there were some that I was like how are you here but others that I would've love to survive)

Nicole Lim

I understand that Mnet wants to reach the Chinese market with this new concept, but it’s so blatantly obvious that they don’t like them at all. They’re doing everything necessary to ensure there will be more Korean trainees than Chinese in the final line-up. So why include Chinese trainees and frame the whole show around "C" and "K" if they don’t even like "C"? It BOGGLES the mind. I know they are doing this new concept because of Zhang Hao’s impact last season, but they’re not even doing it fairly or properly, even though there’s actual proof that people want to see and support Chinese talents in K-pop!

Destiny

Despite the irritation of this episode your guys always make these reactions great. Also m, both Adam and RJ made a Jongwoo joke which is hilarious. RJ in the K episode and now Adam in the C episode

Shmatreflon

Yes! Yay! He was in the first two eps of universe league and is a dance MACHINE (he did some bboy moves in the show) and has stable vocals, from what I can tell! I think he got eliminated very quickly because of the thing these shows like to do where they have people start voting before things start airing so by the time we saw how great he was, he was already gone.

unicoh7

70% Master's evaluation and 30% Views + Likes. The voting on the Mnet Plus app hadn't started yet.

unicoh7

No sympathy for Saesaengs.

Rose

I just keep getting more and more annoyed how there are differences with the way they treat K and C. I really don't get why they needed to split it all up like that and can't just have them be on the same show from episode 1, like they did in season 1. The K side could all chat with video chat, to their family who are (mostly) in the same country as them. The C side had a short phone call, no video chat, to their family who are in a whole nother country! wth is up that?! and I feel their feedback is harsher to the C side though we need to remind ourselves, their training has been completely different than most of the K trainees, so of course they lack in things like learning choreo. also I want to hit Jaejoong. he's an ass. EDIT: I completely forgot to comment on the fact that they keep speaking Korean in front of all the C trainees and then get annoyed when the C trainees don't understand or respond quickly. was it really that hard to instead of Jaejoong for example, get a Chinese speaking chief master-whatever? Jackson Wang would have been so awesome.

Greta🍊

It wasn’t as bad??

Rose

28 surviving out of 80 is a joke

gi ♡

I'm not going to lie I'm not really interested in the show other than watching your reactions... I have to say I'm obsessed with Kooyoung acting like he's figuring out what a good dancer Jiangfan is when he fully choreographed the UL signal song and actively coached them through filming it. Using his manipulating power for good.

Ariel

I'm disregarding the differing amenities and advantages cause I know they exist. Besides that, I was under the impression that Jaejoong called Hanyu 'Fat and ugly' - didn't happen, and I didn't find his judgements degrading like people were saying...(maybe I'm desentisized from my own school experiences). Plus I already knew which contestants were eliminated even before Ep1 aired so I wasn't emotionally attached to them despite liking a few. Also, My imagination based on what I saw on insta and YouTube was worse than what was in ep2.

Hana_Bae 🩷🩵

This show is horrible. 28 out of 80 is insanity. I thought they got treated bad last season? This is way worse. I really hope it’s not racially motivated either but Yk how that goes. I’m really just watching this for the reaction and to see if my former idols will get to debut again!

Nicole Lim

My beloved Jiang Fan getting the screen time he deserves !!!

raerae

I feel the same way! I've never liked him and I couldn't tell why. I guess now I have a reason, every time he's on screen it's like 🙄

fe~

Came back to watch the boystory part after i finished watching ep3 and seeing adam getting emotional here oh girllll you don’t know what’s coming for youuuu!!!

Ashura

The two shows were supposed to create two different groups based in Korea and China, but right when they started to film, the partnership CJ had to manage the Chinese group fell off ; the decision to debut only one group and merge the two shows was made right after that, but they has already filmed the auditions, so they decided to keep the two shows separate for the first couple of episodes (auditions and signal song). Yes the merge was badly done, but CJ and their nebulous Chinese partner are largely to blame for it. If the showrunners had started to film knowing they would only make one group, they wouldn't have done two shows in the first place.

Shady_NewYorker

he might as well have said you need to loose weight you fat bitch....like dam these were kids. Most likely diet at 12-13 years old

Kaeldra3

When xiaoting gasped I knew it was gonna be bad