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Boys II Planet | Episode 09 (Patreon)

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2025-09-14 18:00:10
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2026-06

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clocking in at the jellycat diner

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pres

ooooo baby I’ve been waiting ✨

senni k

if you ever get into omega x please also check out the bl's they are in : My bias is showing?! and a shoulder to cry on.

Nova Amore

See here's the thing😭 I can understand both kangmin and hengyu's side. obviously more hengyu's side though. However, for kangmin, right at that moment wasn't the right time. He was stressed, and hengyu was stressed therefore emotions were everywhere. I wished mnet showed kangmin and hengyu at least talking it out. Cause it seemed like they were fine later on..?? In the behind the scenes photos, and etc. but who knows lol And then I just wished we can see just a little bit more from the lucky macho team. For example, donggyu helping yumeki and hanwen more with singing and rapping, or yumeki working on choreo, or xinlong getting main rapper, etc. but it's fine lol

bri

the whiplash i got watching this episode with kangmin and sangwon as my top picks was insane 🙂 (they still are, don’t get me wrong but YIKES was i scared to go on twitter while MAIN DISH practice was airing)

Phoenix Wright

Not a 100% sure of this but if it's true then Mnet is truly on next level riggery because apparently the sugar high performance in the episode is actually a rehearsal and not the real performance (This is according to twitter where someone leaked an hd haneum fancam from the live performance and there were differences from the fancam and the aired performance)

Aileen

couldn't agree more. negative narrative does not an evil edit make.

Leena Aamir

Im soo annoyed at the camera work for the lucky macho performance, I could barely see xinlong when it was his parts, he was amazing as always but still.

Hannah Bates

Lowkey kangmin was being a bad teammate he just kept saying me me me sir ur the whole leader and ur teammate is crying and stressed and he did not need to add on to that if he couldn’t help he could’ve just stayed silent he did some unnecessary stuff

dnajjks

Adam and Rj thanks for motivating me to do my homework! Every Sunday I tell myself I can’t watch this until I finish all my hw for the week

fe~

i gotta say that part where xinlong and junmin danced together is one of the hottest moment in the whole show the masculinity it radiates i had to open my window

yawnie

I was waiting for your reaction to Chains!! It was one of the best things I have ever seen on a survival show. Also on a side note, Leejung went from saying 'Sangwon is his type' to putting a chain on him (good for him) !

fe~

Please watch xinlong’s fancam pleaseeeee I’m begging youuuu

jodie

Hengyu can't catch a break on this programme. Doing so well in his audition and making the biggest rank jump in mnet survival history, making the nation cry. Getting sick during rising sun and apparently not being allowed to go to the hospital for treatment for his throat. Choosing run to you for vocals because he felt like he had to prove he was main vocal material but still being untreated and getting 0 screen time or positive feedback or reaction from the mentors, hence people forgetting about him and his rank going down. And now this monstrosity where he voluntarily joined main dish with his bestie zihao because he vibes with the song and having to take the main vocal again because ,even tho hes not been learning vocals for very long and hasn't got proper technique yet, who else can reach those insane notes. All whilst having this main vocal pressure and being a slow learner which made him doubting his main dancer ability in his previous group even tho he had a week to learn one of the most difficult choreos on the show. This pressure leading to him having a PANIC ATTACK on stage and the so called 'mentors' telling his to get a grip and not spread his depressive vibes. He deserves the biggest hug and no matter what happens I hope he dosen't have to return the bbq restaurant basement 12 hr shifts😭 This show needs to pay for mine and all the C trainees therapy. A funny and postive part to this tho is the Knetz on twt thirsting over him and calling him sexy when he got mad and cried☠️ Made me laugh through my heartbreak fr

Noro

Aileen

little na yunseo, teen mother of 5

Haneuli

And suddenly park junil looks like myung jaehyun with his new styling?! HYBE doppleganger strikes again

Lazycloud

I was not disappointed by he reaction to the Jia Hao one leg standing air hump haha

fe~

read a post on twt that says when it’s a k trainee having a breakdown the judges comfort him (junmin) but when it’s a c trainee (hengyu) they literally blaming him ?

Khalid E

divas I see what y’all mean about people watching the show this time around. twt is a cesspool of drama and negativity and people making up stories in their own minds to get mad at. junmin and donggyu suddenly have payola allegations for the screen time this episode like what? 😭 it’s exhausting

wen 🦭

as a hengyu and jiahao twopick, this episode was like getting stabbed, winning the lottery, then getting robbed

Leena Aamir

Exactly, it honestly ruined the rest of the ep for me because that’s all I could think about, it just broke my heart to see hengyu like that.

Zerose777

Idkw everyone is shocked by Sugar High beating Main Dish. Sugar High should've been 2nd in my opinion. Main Dish did nothing for me and Lucky Macho was a close 2nd but in Sugar High, the vocals were just better, the concept was better, and Masato and Liyu sounded great, they didn't make any mistakes and they were both on pitch the whole time. Also anyone saying "Kangmin is getting evil editing'' is so annoying. I don't think he's a horrible person or anything, but to blame it on evil editing is a disservice to Hengyu's feelings and also Kangmin's as well. He made a mistake, we can acknowledge that because he's human, but everyone throws around the word evil editing to protect their faves. Also I know it's not his fault, but I'm tired of this much Junmin screentime. We have yet to have Haneum screentime for more than 60 seconds yet Junmin gets at least 20 minutes for the past 3-4 episodes. They openly stated that Junmin was their favorite and the amount of screentime he's getting is kind of ridiculous. The bts of Lucky Macho wasn't even really about the team, it was about Junmin and Dongyu lol. Also Geonwoo deserved Top 3 in Chains, he did great but it's clear you guys still have a bias against him which is fine, we all like who we like, but to say he did the worst out of the team is just not true. You also made a face when it was his line in the beginning which was... to put it as positively as I can, interesting. And it's clear that he's going to debut because his 1 pick power is either 2nd or 3rd in Korea and it'll be kind of weird to see you guys cover their debut and watch all the video's back of your opinions about him, but I digress.

Brittany

JunMins end of school year review; a pleasure to have in class

Brittany

Twt is awful and truly brings out the worst in people. 1st season wasn't any better. It's best to just stay away if you want to keep your sanity.

Haneuli

Also Seowon, Harry, and Heechan joined the verivery live watch party this week with other contestants already lined up for the next episode! Dongheon mentioned that a lot of the kids came over to their dorm to hang out and play games, especially yunseo😭😭😭 he’s really fathering all those babies

Brittany

Lucky Macho was actually my least favorite performance surprisingly. Idk if it was the camera work or the full mixed version of the song. Something was just off to me. Sugar High is my fav song, but man other than Haneum the vocals just felt weak to me, even for Woojin. Idk the tones were just not pleasant to listen to. Chains fav performance. JiaHao is insane and I'm so glad he's getting some attention. Sangwon is really special and just transforms on stage. He was born for this and I'm so glad he's decided to give it another go. Main dish I think was my fav overall, they all ate down and the song was giving exactly what it was going for. Not a song I'd listen to regularly, but that performance was memorable to me. Very strong.

Nathan

The crazy thing about Sugar High is that the full cam and individual cams are better and different compared to what aired on the show. So. I feel very "whatever" at this point. Clearly, the PDs only want Sanghyeon from that team, and it's obvious, with how they showed him being in the danger zone along with Junmin. I just pretty much ONLY care about that team, so it sucks to see the deceptive editing. Also, the Main Dish stuff.... it was just so hard to watch because I really felt for Hengyu. I hope he, familyz (Woojin, Haneum, Sanghyeon, and Liyu), and other mistreated contestants can leave this show and just debut together, away from the twitter b2p fandom and away from the PDs of this show. I'm so tired, and it doesn't help that every episode FEELS BAD to watch if you don't like anyone that the showrunners like.

Sarah

I feel like the Kangmin edit in this episode really reminds me of the Matthew Say my Name edit, where I'm just watching from between my fingers going "oh my god please stop talking please stop talking"- while he's digging his own grave

Yawa Gavlo

My fav performance is tied between lucky macho and chain. For my Sangwon is pretty sexy and Jia Hao is elegant sexy, both great! I love how Sangwon switch it part with Jia Hao!!! So cute!!! My 2 cent is that the final line up will be made out of lucky macho and chains.

Zerose777

It's not K vs C because they've comforted many C trainees. The first one that comes to mind is Lynn Lynn in the 2nd episode. Seokhoon talked to him really nicely and turned his negative situation into a positive. It's more about Junmin is obviously a PD Pick. They openly stated that Junmin was their favorite and the amount of screentime he's getting is kind of ridiculous. The bts of Lucky Macho wasn't even really about the team, it was about Junmin and Dongyu lol.

Greta🍊

Have we watched the same thing? In both cases nothing bad has been said by neither Kangmin nor Matthew. (The only person that looked bad imo was Hanbin)

soren

adam and i had the same face during chains

Zerose777

Eh? Did YOU watch the show? Matthew was more in the "wrong" than Hanbin. Matthew's situation was way more understandable but to say that Kangmin said nothing bad is just as straight up lie. He's not a bad person but trying to excuse him is wrong, he was lowkey acting a little crazy this whole episode.

kooniya

honestly as someone who is only watching this show for verivery, i will say Kangmin was definitely in the wrong. I understand both sides but he kept pushing it too far, like I was happy he was getting screentime until i realized it was because of their argument. The other members of verivery also said something along the lines that he should've talked it out with Hengyu and Dongheon (the leader) said they could've gone to bathroom to talk if they were worried about cameras. Anyway, main dish was my favorite cause it really felt like they put their all into it and they did so well, but also cause my top 3 are in that group hehe

Sarah

Yeah, while in neither case imo they were entirely in the wrong, they were both giving the editors WAY too much to work with, particularly with Kangmin in the confessionals- I do agree with Adam and RJ that "is it really an evil edit if you said it". It is as you say "a bad lewk".

Sarah

The way the mentors + narrative treated Hengyu vs someone like Junmin, was unbearable to watch. Especially Onestar, I don't know how you watch a trainee have a very obvious panic attack and say to them "You're spreading your depression vibe to everyone, stop it" and think that helped them. Even him saying that it's the semi final so there's no sympathy to go around was crazy. So, if he cried only a week earlier you would have comforted him?? I just couldn't get over the clear double standards shown. Also, Kangmin didn't help matters at all. Seeing Hengyu get absolutely ripped to shreds by those mentors and not giving him a second to breath before adding to it was 100% the wrong move. He wasn't trying to help a teammate out, but offload his frustrations and anger at the target. In the end, it caused friction with his teammate. made the mood worse, and we were shown no resolution to the fight.

Sel

Hengyu was hanging out with zhongxing last week and he told him he was feeling lonely and felt like all his friends were leaving… I guess what happened with Kangmin had a weight to it too

Sel

Also I highly recommend watching jiahao fancam for clear skin and good dreams

Sarah

I'm sorry, the Junmin + Donggyu segments in this episode made me roll my eyes. It's obvious that production wants both to make it to the finals and at least one of them in the group but can they make a more interesting story line than having us watch a 5 min compilation of them being punctual roommates?! We could have seen more of them helping their teammates and prepping for the stage at the very least, but that would show too much of the other teammates and production doesn't want that.

Auburn

whenever someone gets a low score, they keep cutting to Woojin and his look of concern just to hurt my feelings

shedaris

The camera work for basically all performances was so terrible this time around. The full versions on yt aren't that better either. Such a shame

❣️ Vladlena ❣️

I felt sooo bad for Heng Yu in this episode. He clearly had a panic attack at rehearsal, but the judges were terrible as always — ‘put yourself together,’ ‘you shouldn’t let your depressed vibe affect other members.’ Like… fuck off! THESE WORDS DON’T HELP HIM PERFORM BETTER! They were so toxic, I hated it. And why Kang Min thought telling Heng Yu ‘You can’t do that’ after the judges’ scolding was a good idea — I also can’t comprehend. Besides, it put him in a bad light. He basically shoot himself in the foot. I understand they all felt pressure before the finale, but making another member feel shitty isn’t the way to perform well. And poor Zi Hao always stuck between other fighting members 🙈

❣️ Vladlena ❣️

Now about “Chain” team. When Kani said ‘Again?’ after finding out that Sang Won got the killing part — I felt that. Like, Sang Won is definitely the star of the season, but I don’t think he needs to be center or killing part ALL the time. They should’ve chosen Jia Hao, because he’s on the same level of talent! Of course Sang Won performed excellently as always, but his spot is safe — he will be number 1 in this group for sure. So it’s a pity that Jia Hao didn’t get the killing part! But I’m glad Sang Won kept worrying about Jia Hao and understood this performance isn’t just for him to shine, so they switched the part 👏👏👏 That was the right thing to do! And you hit the nail on the head: “Main Dish” and “Chain” had very different killer part stories! We can see that Sang Won is truly a good person even under high-pressure circumstances, while Kang Min let his mind get clouded by greed and almost broke another member’s mental state and confidence.

Secretninja312 (Tina)

I feel like Mnet producers were way too caught up in creating dramatic filled storylines this round that we didn’t actually get much behind the scenes practice and rehearsals. Especially Lucky Macho, they spent a good 5 minutes on Junmin/Donggyu bromance and it wasn’t even good content from them or from this round! Most of it was clips of the, waking up and waiting by the door. We barely saw the rest of their group. Like, how was Junil adapting to a new song? Yumeki learning to rap? How has Hanwen improved in his vocals? There was a preview where Yumeki said he changed most of the choreo, what did he change? And the whole Hangyu vs Kangmin, I get why they bth acted the way they did and both their feelings are valid. Hengyu is having a hard time, he’s human and unfortunately had a crashout during rehearsals. Kangmin is stressed and frustrated probably because he was forced to leave Chains and wanted to do well so he lost it. Could he have chosen a better time to talk to Hengyu? Yes. But Kangmin is also human and they were pressed for time so he just let it out. I do wish Onestar would’ve been a bit nicer with his words to Hengyu. He asked him why he felt down but when Hengyu opened up and told him, Onestar told him “too bad, get a grip. You’re being the mood of your team down” like, why ask if you didn’t want to hear the answer when you can clearly see Hengyu wasn’t doing well. But I don’t think there’s any lasting resentment between Kangmin and Hengyu. One thing they don’t like to show is how often Kangmin hangs out with C Planet guys, he’s friends with a lot of them. There’s an extra clip of Hengyu calling Kangmin in to his room to offer him snacks. Even if they end up in the same group, I think they’ll be fine. Like remember how everyone thought Woongki and Shuaibo hated each other after Feel Special? Look at them now.

Khalid E

I agree about kangmin but geonwoo top 3 in chains? sangwon, jiahao, and leejeong all did better than him. leejeong didn’t have many lines but if you watch him, his dancing and facials were giving. I might put him 4 though because anxin doesn’t fit this song imo and leo sounded great but that’s about it.

Redaurorae _

You guys NEED to watch Jiahao’s fancam…. He’s honestly insane.. he became my pick after this one ep

Alissa

yeah at this point the only way i can consume content related to this show is on y'all's patreon and youtube LOL the negativity has gotten so crazy it's actually stressing me out. unfortunate because I do like the trainees for the most part but I don't think I'll be keeping up with the debut group beyond a couple of people (if they make it) just because of how the entire experience has been soured for me. but you guys are a delight as always so that's a plus haha

Greta🍊

can we talk about just how unfair it is that Hengyu gets told to just suck it up and not “spread his depressed vibe” meanwhile a certain k planet trainee got sympathy points from the masters and even a hug??? Like wtf?

Jesse 😼

Anyone else notice Jiahao's cut sleeve

Greta🍊

When was Matthew in the wrong? Sorry but I rewatched the show so often I basically know it word by word. Hanbin literally called him selfish and told him it’s not a solo performance which was rich coming from the person who got the killing part AGAIN meanwhile Matthew just wanted the longer part like literally everyone on the show. But whatever. The past is in the past. Kangmin and Hengyu were both incredibly stressed in this situation. If you have a little empathy you will be able to understand both sides of the story. Only the masters were way out of line with how they treated Hengyu. Like Junmin got a hug and he gets told to suck it up? Wtf?

Lauren

I've been watching all of Jia Hao's fancams! They do not disappoint

loontan

haneum’s face is so tea i kept getting distracted this episode ngl

Josh smith

I didn’t even notice them side eyeing him when he mentioned the a/c💀

Jesse 😼

Chains is just Sangwon getting passed around iktr

cat

as a person with critical thinking skills seeing what goes on in twt and especially the b2p community tab (that i'm not even a part of it just shows up in my tl) i worry for the ppl that fall for edits and create their own narrative about ppl in the show and that believe unconfirmed rumors just bc they are written in korean/chinese the herd mentality over there is crazy ngl . personally most of my picks are on chains so i believe that would be my favorite performance overall and its honestly the only song i listen to lmaoo there are many ppl i wouldn't mind in the group looking at the top 24 i do believe most of the ones doing a brighter concept are not making it into the final group tho, most of them haven't really branched out to do other concepts so its difficult to imagine they are versatile enough in a short amount of time for them to pull of the concept the show is pushing for (personally .,,,girls pls do not come for me lmaoo )

charliess

I'm a little sad that anxin seems to have lost some confidence lately😓 He would have suited a cute concept I hope he gets to do one one day and get the killing part sometime too🥲

Alissa

Yunseo's literally a single mom who works two jobs who loves her kids and never stops

Brittany

I love the idea of VeriVery adopting all of the eliminated trainees!

Carmen Elias

I was waiting for the Zhang Jia Hao reaction 🫣 he's been my one Pick since makemate and I'm glad he's getting his views now ⛓️⛓️⛓️

Lindseyyyyy

XINLONG ATE THAT UP AND LEFT NO CRUMBS (I'm glad at least y'all gave him some attention)

Pond’sPhuphu

I love how disciplined Junmin is! Come on your guys vote for him! He needs to debut!

:3

There was a sugar high fancam that leaked a few days before the ep and I lovedddd the stage so much so I was baffled at how bad the audio and camerawork in the aired episode was compared to the fancam. There were also different takes of the performance cut together for the epsiode from what I've seen from audience reviews.

Gem571

Just want to add that living 24/7 with cameras for 4 months and being in a survival show for your career would be extremely intense. The guys are living in fight or flight mode all the time. No one is perfect and I’m sure they have all had moments of losing it. I certainly wouldn’t want cameras following me around for 4 months - they would get way worse footage than Kangmin and hengyus. And it would be me going off at the person I love the most - my husband 🤣. We just need to remember these are humans and they are in an extremely intense situation and are all desperate to survive and get a career out of it or they wouldn’t have volunteered to go on the show. None of us can say we act like angels 24/7 for 4 months under stress. I just feel sorry for all the guys on the show. Kangmin has been consistently mentioned by c trainees who have left as the kindest person from planet K to them. Anyway that’s my 2 cents.

Brittany

Li Zihao can't get in one group that doesn't have a major conflict 😭

Brittany

I'm honestly surprised more people aren't at each other throats in these shows. Like yes, I get that most trainees are hyper aware they're on camera and want to look their best, and also culturally they put a heavy emphasize on the tough love, suck it up, and work harder mentality, but seriously. Maybe I'm just not as good of a person lol. I'd be pretty peeved If I was Jihao and Kangmin, though I also get where he's coming from, I would have had a not so pretty word or two to say to him if I was Hengyu.

Nutmegdream

We should start a GoFundMe to pay for Hengyu’s therapy, because it certainly isn’t going to be covered by Mnet or the BBQ joint…

Nutmegdream

It’s not the trainees fault, but I was truly bored watching the Lucky Macho Junmin/Donggyu special…if they’re going to give trainees so much screen time, can’t they at least make it a little more interesting? They gave a little bit of a positive leader edit with Donggyu helping Hanwen improve with his singing, but that was crumbs by comparison of just watching the two hangout in the morning (which we already know they hangout a lot from BP Dorm BTS vids a few weeks ago. So that’s now 2 Junmin/Donggyu friend edits in the span of a week 🥱). If it’s not as exciting as Umbrella Man, whatever was happening in Main Dish (both last week AND this week), or anything that surrounds He Zhongxing, then I don’t want a singular focus on one trainee. I’d much prefer your take of exploring Yumeki rapping, Junil switching teams, Hanwen singing, hell, Xinlong deciding on different crop tops lol I completely agree that there’s so many more interesting topics Lucky Macho could’ve covered, but Mnet is hellbent on getting their favs to the finals. Edit: There is so much hidden Yumeki content it’s not even funny atp. He’s being used solely as click bait. They don’t care to show his growth or any conflict whatsoever. Did they keep the old choreo? Yield to Yumeki? We’ll never know… Yeah, the vid of Kangmin being a honorary C-Member in the previous BTS was so cute. I’m sure they worked it out. There’s so much that happens between now and when filming took place that we’ll never know about. The little team huddle in Kangmin’s room was really cute. Man Main Dish really took my heart for this episode. Now that’s a good story- drama, struggle, success. Actually, all of the team stories were pretty good, minus Lucky Machos. I think Kangmin definitely could’ve read the room and chosen to disclose how he felt in the bathroom or something, but I get that feelings were running high. I think it’s interesting that Hengyu was being comforted by Junseo, but Mnet cut away as quickly as they could because Junseo is “evil” 🙄

acca

Crazy how Kaiwen got the second highest score of the night and still continued being treated as an NPC with no screentime

Alissa

Apparently they used a worse take of Sugar High (word on the street)? Either way imo Woojin ate that up. The songs in general were a bit underwhelming to me but especially Sugar High

Brittany

2:02:37 sleepy woojin in the back spotted 🥹

Brittany

And you know what, Love is Zhang Jihao.

Brittany

How dare yall forget Daniel Kim 😭😭🤣🤣🤣

Secretninja312 (Tina)

I also think it’s wild Mnet chose now to do a full feature on a “they must debut together!” duo when we’re now down to 1 pick votes. And I don’t blame the trainees for like 95% of what shown because they’re human and they don’t get say on what and how Mnet chooses to clip their footage together. And of course Mnet had to turn Junseo in to a villain, they already evil edited their other season villains to the point of elimination so they had to find a new target 💀

Alissa

Zihao is such a starrrr...he really gives Kum Junhyeon in that he serves comedic relief while also being incredibly talented

charliess

I was looking forward to seeing you guys react to jiahao😆😆

Kim Soobin

The amount of times I've watched the jia hao fam cam is unhealthy and very dehydrating

Brittany

These damn finger guns. I swear to god Anxin how did we get it in the choreo too 😭

Brittany

Everyone say thank you Sangwon for giving up sub vocal 3. Everyone say thank you Jiahao for being Jiahao. When I saw this in the live I knew yall were going to lose it. Did not disappoint!

Alissa

Jiahao the it boy that you are....

Candice Blair

Rewatching it, I'm like, damn, he's not even the leader. lol

Alissa

They had my nephew running those practices like the navy

Alissa

Yeah this episode is a terrible look for Kangmin but going off the firsthand testimonies of especially the c trainees I'm inclined to believe that this was more a moment of stress and frustration rather than him being a bad person

Candice Blair

I'm nervous for my favs next week. None of them is really safe at all. I feel like Xinlong will dip, and Li Zihao cannot afford to dip. I'm really sick of seeing Xinglong getting allegations of payola from JYPE. If JYPE did any type of marketing or "payola" Boystory members wouldn't be on here, and Zihao would be even higher himself. Like someone was legit mad on Twitter that JYPE idols are supporting Boy Story members as if that matters. If every JYPE fandom really cared, both members would've been in the top 8 since the beginning of the show.

Candice Blair

Yeah, the C trainees really love him. Even Zihao said this is not the Kangmin I know in his confessional.

Bethany R

"mama, that was gay" (re: chains). yes, yes

galmbee

The way they made Sugar HIGH team lazy hyungs and Yunseo when Haneum wrote a message under his fancam saying he was the leader and tried hard and organised night rehearsal but we never got any of that

Naasrah Ali-White

Seeing the Chain groups segment after Main Dish was very interesting to see how two people manage themselves under stress. From what I've been seeing from C planet trainees, they all loved Kangmin. He left good impressions on them. Which is important given how the show has treated them. Therefore, I don't think we should use this situation to instantly paint him as a bad person. But I do think that the way a person manages themselves under high pressure can be very telling. I think we all as people have bad moments, and this was one for him. It's just unfortunate that it happened like this. Other than all that, I hope this will be a turning point for Jia Hao. Let's Debut!

Zerose777

Because as much as Matthew had a right to want to do that part, Seungeon is objectively a better singer, especially for the part yet Matthew was insisting, which again, understandable but still.

REN 🌈

As a Jia Hao AND Sangwon stan this was THE episode for me!!!!! I can’t wait for them to debut together ❤️❤️❤️ they’re really just two gentle introvert gay cats :)

REN 🌈

everyone mentioning kangmin but HENGYU…… i will avenge you from everyone who spoke ill of you

Zerose777

I would agree that Lee Jeong and Geonwoo are tied which is fair, but I was responding to them saying he was last which was just not true. If anything, Anxin was last. Anxin looks uncomfortable on screen. I'm noticing it more and more.

Zerose777

It's not K vs C because they've comforted many C trainees. The first one that comes to mind is Lynn Lynn in the 2nd episode. Seokhoon talked to him really nicely and turned his negative situation into a positive. It's more about Junmin is obviously a PD Pick. They openly stated that Junmin was their favorite and the amount of screentime he's getting is kind of ridiculous. The bts of Lucky Macho wasn't even really about the team, it was about Junmin and Dongyu lol.

Mimu

my 2 cents: Verivery, dkb and seowon reacted to this episode live (REALLY fun watch if anyone cares lol) but even verivery mentioned Kangmin must be really stressed / angry to be acting like this. They seemed upset at the situation as a whole (I get that they'd be understanding bc they're on his team, but they seemed to genuinely think it was the stress that made everyone act up). Sidenote: Harry June has been getting more screentime since he was on the line / eliminated lol

Secretninja312 (Tina)

Every time Choonbae appears on screen, I think it’s to prove you wrong and be like “Ha! You think I’m not here with the guys? I watch them run every morning” 🐶

SUKICAT

I mean given the fact that since this mission has been announced, and since people have found out that Sangwon got the killing part for Chains he DOES need the benefits. I'm sorry but I'm so sick and tired of everyone being like "Well he's first so he's safe" like NOBODY is safe until that last episode airs and until their names are called in the Final lineup. There are SO many instances of P01's being a lot lower in the finales than what they were throughout the show because everyone just thought they were safe. It just didn't make sense to me when people have the: "Well they're P01 so they're safe." That mentality just doesn't make sense to me, because I'm just like they're not going to stay P01 if everyone collectively decides to drop them because they think they're safe. Sangwon has been nothing but kind and nice throughout this entire show, he literally gave Hao part of his KP and said he wanted Hao to score higher than him, and yet he's been getting SO much hate recently, especially on the K-side, the amount of Viral Hate tweets I've seen of him lately is so concerning. I'm so concerned for the finale because the way I've seen EVERYONE say: "I'm not voting Sangwon because he's safe" it makes me scared I'm NGL, because if EVERYONE is saying: "I'm not going to vote for him" than who the hell is driving the bus??? Who's voting for him?? Like if we ALL drop him at the same time, and prioritize other people than who's voting for him??? No, one is safe until their name is called in the final lineup. Point, blank, period.

Maritza Islas

Oh no RJ just you wait, I fully plan on voting Seventeen for the next beloved. lol

Maritza Islas

Also we have to get Seventeen in lore... just so you can see the Going Seventeen episode that takes place at whatever weird ass place the B2P trainees are living at currently lol

bri

off work so i can give more in depth thoughts! overall, even as the number one kangmin beret, he was DEFINITELY out of pocket this episode 😭 i felt horrible for hengyu and i just wanted to give him a hug this episode. but i genuinely can’t really blame kangmin at all, i think from the moment baekho made that comment, he’s just been on this downward spiral that unfortunately led him to him making that comment towards hengyu and his overall behavior. and to be fair, i understand being frustrated that a teammate isn’t keeping up like you want them too, especially in a competition show. but he definitely just didn’t go about it the right way. and in fact went the WORST way. this doesn’t change how i view him AT ALL and i WILL still be voting for him. i think just based off of how other trainees view kangmin, i have faith this wouldn’t be a recurrent thing if he were to debut. i hope SOOOO bad he and hengyu were able to work it out even if it wasn’t shown 😞 anyways #justiceforhengyu i love you my shayla ADDITIONALLY: i think gyehyeon leaving in the 2nd elimination is a big stressor for his behavior this episode as well unfortunately. he was apparently pretty unconsolable after his elimination according to a live verivery had watching an episode even though we didn’t see it (which i’m actually glad we didn’t)

M

I NEED ZHANG JIAHAO TO DEBUT. HES INSANEEEEEEE.

Jenny Wilde

The whole Kangmin situation is weird because I remember hearing thst he was especially close with the C trainees, so it surprised me even more. But bro, even if I can see where you’re coming from, you have got to be respectful to your teammates.

ali bault

The way miss Hao thrusted got me pregnant Fr

dizzy

hope yall watched the chains individual fan cams jia hao shidded bootssss 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

Maritza Islas

From what Im seeing on social media... a lot of people are on HengYu's side and not Kangmin's. I see a lot of people pissed off at the coaches also because of how they treated HengYu when he was breaking down. Absolutely agree with Adam that it did not look like Main Dish team figured it out with that group talk in the dorm. Kangmin looked very uninvested in the talk. Honestly now having seen it, everything he said was kind of selfish. I understand they are so close to the end. But you have to work as a team in order to move forward.

sharon

that kangmin segment is really unfortunate, like i do think he was mostly thinking about himself and honestly that's understandable at this point but he should know better than to outright say it because like you said i think they're trying to bring him down and he walked right in :-((((( i feel really bad for hengyu too he was definitely expecting some encouraging words from the mentors like he's seen them do for everyone else and they said SIKE

Maritza Islas

Would LOVE to know why this audience insists on ranking Junseo so low every week.

sharon

haven't reached chains performance yet but i've watched jiahao's fancam at least 20 times already and i am really pleased to announce that he currently has the highest views out of everyone 😌😌😌😌 AS HE SHOULD

Melly

I was so eagerly waiting for your reaction to Jiahao and you both didn’t disappoint. I was already in love with Hao since MA1 but he really made me obsessed the last few weeks. I’ve been so confused why he is ranked so low at 19 and people aren’t noticing him. I’m so glad he’s gotten his time now. Hope Jiahao pulls a Ricky to debut

Exekyute (Kyu)

When they showed Junmin 16th and Sanghyeon 17th, I'm pretty sure the header was something like "4th Global Voting Interim Status", whereas when they showed Yumeki, Kaiwen, and Zihao as 17-19 earlier in the week they had a "3rd Elimination Candidates" header. The difference in the headers is weird and comes off as calculated to me.

loontan

i swear they need to pull a ricky with jiahao when it comes to the finale

onlyonlysun

listen i know it's a very stressful environment but kangmin during that whole package was giving Special Little Boy energy and it was annoying me so bad actually...

sharon

ZHANG JIAHAO LET'S DEBUT

sharon

i mean about sangwon, he got 12 million points in the last survival announcement, which is more than hanbin or zhang hao ever got in BP, so it's understandable that out of everyone ppl would think he's the least likely to drop from the top 8 😬 i do agree that him not getting the benefit would probaly not change the outcome, if anything ppl that want him in the group would vote harder

CRTJ

why do I feel like seowon trained woojin tf out… like woojin is doing a lot of seowon mannerisms 🤣😭 seowon… gurl you better shoot your shot girl!!! I see you👀

onlyonlysun

okay but why was chains choreo lowkey just sangwon getting passed around like a blunt

nadia

yunseo teen mom ❤️ jiahao ❤️ mon amour ❤️ my one pick ❤️❤️❤️ re: chains, normally if the performance is too literal in interpreting the lyrics i find it unoriginal... but i concede that a whole ass choreo of pretty boys tying each other up is ENTERTAINMENT ahem finally... if a contestant says one selfish thing and it ends up on screen, one could argue it's an evil edit. but if same contestant says five more selfish things? wellllll that becomes context... (i feel bad for both of them but hengyu had it worse. i'm glad he sounded amazing on stage.)

Lydia.docx

I hope you guys will check out the studio version of each song I think you’ll appreciate the vocals even more☺️

Pond’sPhuphu

People who’re saying Mnet evil edits Kangmin are just making excuses and gaslighting themselves. You can clearly see in his face that he means every single word he’s saying. He truly believes that his teammates are holding him back.

Pond’sPhuphu

“I think this performance is the most important to me” “I am the only one working hard” “I am the only one doing everything” …. Kangmin… what are we doing to our teammates like you’re all up in your head.

Inoue

Just a fact check - Hanbin wasnt killing part in that mission. It was Yujin.

Nicole Lim

I'm sorry but Kangmin's behavior makes him irredeemable in my eyes. Like wdym you want to be an idol and you act that way? I'm sorry but being in an idol group is more than just having skills and talent, everyone knows that. This is going to sound harsh but he should just become a solo artist or find another career path if that is truly his attitude towards others.

wick 🕯️

btw idk if you noticed but kaiwen with 1880 points got the second highest score of the whole night after kangmin! mnet why are you hiding him from us

wick 🕯️

there was also another partial interim ranking btw, it was released at the end of a teaser they dropped. it had yumeki 17th, kaiwen 18th, zihao 19th... things clearly changed though if junmin ended up 16th and sanghyeon (!!??) 17th lol the lower ranks seem like they're super unstable so next elim is gonna be crazy

Christine Diane

Lowkey I think what Baekho said to him about this being his "last chance" really got to him and messed with his mind. Coupled with getting kicked out of Chains and the Hengyu situation, he blew up. Even Verivery were surprised and they've known him for years. I hope he and Hengyu made up in the end.

Christine Diane

I bet they already made up and Mnet just won't show it for drama.

Christine Diane

Lowkey I think what Baekho said to him about this being his "last chance" really got to him and messed with his mind. Coupled with getting kicked out of Chains and the Hengyu situation, he blew up. Even Verivery were surprised and they've known him for years. I hope he and Hengyu made up in the end.

Shi Yau

I feel terrible for Heng Yu in this situation because truly i cannot imagine the mental struggle this show is putting all of them thru, i personally would not be able to hold back lik HY did i would be jumping

Kara Marshall

These studio audiences need to get it together because those scores were not it!!

Shi Yau

The concept of me one picking Junseo so that ALPHA1 can have a BL actor in the lineup and Donggyu not debuting here and therefore goes to star in a BL

MJR

Yeah honestly Kangmin's behavior in this ep was giving we need some anger management classes and deprogramming that toxic masculinity...

Jared

I started rooting for Kang Min after he got booted...until he went full diva lol

Jared

Heng Yu was obviously having a hard time and Onestar is like "N*t up, p*ssy" smh

Kal Haze

This episode pissed me off with camera work , just even during the performance it was not good

Jared

I thought bro was going to apologize to Heng Yu but NOPE lol

Jared

they did Junseo dirty

Jared

b/c the only Chinese members they want in the group are Anxin and maybe Xin Long

Jared

Sangwon is a professional

CRTJ

ADAM please get into the Donggyu train😭😭😭

Jared

and is running away with 1st place lol

Jared

is it on YT?

dnajjks

Hehehehe I knew I was right about the novas (specifically Rj falling into the Donggyu agenda) … but now after seeing you guys be all 🤭🥰 at Donggyu teaching Yumeki and Hanwen I’m wondering if he’ll be in both your lineups this week?? SO EXCITED FOR THE RECAP!

dnajjks

Yunseo is gonna debut in a few years and be the leader and it boy of whatever group of babies he’s in

Windy2

Yes, on Verivery's official channel!

Secretninja312 (Tina)

It gave me the same vibe as when the mentors asked He Zhongxing if he was ok and he flat out said "No, I'm exhausted" and they just didn't like his answer and basically went "Too bad, We're all tired" because apparently when you're Planet C, you are not allowed to have a hard time. Hengyu wasn't even asking for sympathy, he was literally answering Onestar's question truthfully. Like Onestar didn't have to coddle him and be like "Its ok, you're a fantastic singer, etc" he could've at least worded it better or given him some helpful vocal advice.

Secretninja312 (Tina)

I'm amazing he kept it together. Because I would've full on crashed out and collapse on the floor sobbing, or full on lashing out like "YOU THINK I'M NOT TRYING HARD?!? YOU THINK I'm PURPOSEFULLY MESSING UP?" God I almsot crashed out for him.

Secretninja312 (Tina)

because he's not important to MNET's dramatic storyline. He's getting the same treatment as Wang Zihao where they gave him no screentime and him and his fans carried him through the show since he's clearly talented and skilled. Does MNET have beef with Lay's company or something

Gurocandii

Does anyone else think Jun min kinda gives Mile sometimes? (As in Mile Phakphum), like sometimes he looks at the camera at a certain angle and I see some Mile in him, maybe it's the nose? Or am I insane

wen

Yup

Mirneraiva

Madame WHIB does 15 minute drag as if for the main stage. He makes it look expensive. Depending how early he gets up that is… He’s a leader already, so he knows the game. He’s responsible, takes direction well. He’s a social butterfly, charismatic- Charisma. Uniqueness. Nerve. and Talent. Everything that’s deserving of a spot on the debut line up. Welcome to the stage, Madame WHIB!

klementina

my pics are 1. Donggyu 2. Xinlong 3.Junmin 4.Leo 5.Sangwon 6.Jiahao 7. Hengyu for the last Kangmin or Kaiwen

CRTJ

Chingyu is Dino’s little brother😭 its an otter family 🥹

Jamell N

I think Junmin is so good to the point where i started listening to whib 😩😩 And Im soooooo glad Jiahao is popping off towards the end like yessss make the top 8 SWEAT hunni!!!!

Jamell N

They know we want that twunk obliterated

Daniel

I love haneum but totally see that others can outshine him on stage but even in his solo stuff he's kind of a park and bark queen. truly the diva of the season and it makes so much sense once u know that idolizes Mariah Carey

Daniel

Then on the other hand i love liyus sugar high fancam so much cuz his face is lit up 100% of the time. Can tell that he's looked up to girl group idols with the way he carries himself and ik very few idols with similar vibes, mainly zhang hao, JL, and onepact seongmin

CRTJ

the voters of lucky macho was like… the abs never bothered me anyway 🤣

Tina Oestreich

Especially when you hear some of the stories of actually debuted idols and trainees lol. Some of them are throwing hands in those practice rooms. Stray Kids have dozens of stories of them yelling at each other (iirc Han once threw a wallet at someone??), Moonbyul and Solar apparently used to get into full on hair pulling, nail scratching fights, Leeteuk and Heechul apparently did not speak for three whole months once after a massive fight, etc etc etc

Ashura

He likely did apologize, we just didn't get to see it because there's producers with an agenda (they prefer fresh faces over debuted idols).

CRTJ

so no one’s gonna talk about the bed squeaks in chains….

CRTJ

after watching that kangmin hengyu drama…. all I can say is… Cardi B - Am I The Drama? out this September 19!

CRTJ

Leo is such a yapper!!!

imani

For some reason, with this mission, I was so aware of the repeat cuts and who received them during the performance! I think it's because, halfway through me watching Main Dish during the episode, there were none of the usual repeat cuts, and that was WEIRD considering there are two Top 8 people in the song. These were the people that got repeat cuts: Donggyu, Junmin, Sangheon (the only repeat cut in the entire performance), Sangwon, Jiahao, and Leo. Idk I think with this mission since pretty much half of the performances had zero of the normal repeats, I became hyper-focused on it and what it could potentially mean for who Mnet wants in the final lineup (or pushed into the finale at least to create another group for them).

imani

BUT THREE OF MY FAVS ARE GETTING THAT PUSH SO I GOTTA CHEER AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT LMAOOOOOO

imani

also i'm obsessed with the dairy queen storyline throughout the reaction LMAOOOOO

Hannah Bates

I understand that and I love kangmin but he didn’t get kicked out of chains he wanted to shine more so he got up and left there’s no excuse for him being snappy towards hengyu and kicking him while he was already down he could’ve just not said anything so idk why he chose to do that

Princessyoku

zhang jia hao is this season's rui

fe~

You got a point here 🤔

Crav

I am the last person to take Mnet at its word, but I don't think there's really an excuse to be made for Kangmin this time. They showed multiple comments over multiple practice sessions over multiple days, and interviews as well. This was clearly his problem for the entire practice period instead of a one-off vent. Sometimes you can tell that an argument took place in one solitary practice and was probably resolved. That definitely wasn't the case here. He decided pretty much immediately that Hengyu was holding him back and he believed that 'til the end, no matter what emotion his teammate showed or what effort he made. I just can't imagine a debuted idol of nearly 7 years, who has even been on an Mnet survival show before, making this kind of obvious PR mistake. The only answer is that those were his true feelings and he didn't even have a shred of doubt that he would come off as the correct person in the edit. Poor Hengyu. All of those comments were so microaggressive and backhanded, and even when breaking down he didn't cause that big of a fuss. He is an idol already, Kangmin's peer, someone who was clearly deemed good enough to make a debut. Someone who has been consistently in the top ranks! And as far as we can see, Kangmin didn't have a single encouraging word for him the whole time. What if they end up on the final team together? How is he supposed to feel camaraderie with someone who was so quick to tear him down and leave him behind? That quick like broke my heart - "does he even think of me as a teammate?"

Crav

And regarding all the testimonials about this being really out of character for Kangmin - that doesn't really say much to me. I'm sure he's under incredible stress, especially with the departure of his last Verivery member last elimination and being kicked from Chains. But all of them are under incredible stress, and how you deal with stress is crucial to how the team functions as an idol. If he gets into the group, he'll be busier and have more eyes on him than he likely ever did as a Verivery member (absolutely no shade). He's an experienced idol, if he makes the group then all the trainees will be looking to him for guidance and support. I fthis is how he behaves under big stress, by lashing out and focusing on himself, then I would worry about the interpersonal relationships and health of the group long-term.

CRTJ

I know kangmin did it to himself and I know it is not looking good for him… image wise… but I also cannot sit and pretend that he did not tore stage up… it almost works in his advantage how angry and frustrated he was and he was able to release it in the performance… I know we should still not condemn any bad attitude… but man he really was so hungry for this performance and it shows… I don’t like how he go about preparing for this performance… pretty sure some of the trainees must have felt being beside him by now… but at this point you got to use EVERYTHING to make sure you put out a good performance… and I think that is what the mentors are doing to hengyu during the final rehearsals… cuz at that point you really don’t have much time and you just need to snap and just power through. I remember beyonce said in an interview that she have to use everything to give a great performance… she even said please piss me off before a performance… and I think it was for ring the alarm during the vmas and she really looks mad af and it made the performance probably a 100 times better. So I’m not surprised that he got the highest score cuz the audience probably captured how angry and hungry he was with that performance

CRTJ

at the end of the we are looking for talents that can survive the hurdles of this insane industry that is kpop… It might sound that I’m defending kangmin but you really have to be tough to be in this industry… I think that is what he’s been trying to communicate with hengyu. it might just come off as hateful since his rank was on the line as well… comparing to the sangwon killing part situation… its really hard since we know obviously by now that sangwon is a guaranteed P01 and kangmin is in and out the 8th place most of the time… so this is where I’m seeing most of his energy are coming from… also… he handled his departure from Chains really well… he got so frustrated about it but he did not turned it into anger. Even if he’s so disappointed about the decision… he stepped out and accepted it…

CRTJ

also yes… I’m as hopeless as rj and adam that we will get svt in the lore… idk what’s in the air but can yall just let svt win 😭 anyways I’m so surprised they chose minghao out of all the svt members but he did so great… I can see mingyu and joshua as planet masters as well… I think they will do well

CRTJ

Donggyu is finally getting the story line he deserves ❤️ idk yall… that man is a one pick material for me

dnajjks

The Kangmin / Hengyu thing was so hard to watch, you should've seen Harry June reacting to it on the Verivery live, he was cuddling up against Heechan closing his eyes like he was watching a scary movie, and he was grabbing Heechan's arm to hold

I_KPOP_Fan (Ry_Noona)

I understand Kangmin. He is desperate to debut. The coaches are telling him it’s his last chance. He can’t get solid top rankings. He can’t seem to get in with the top 8 and perform where he wants to perform so he has a chip on his shoulder and he is working his butt off. They are in the semi-final and it is the last performance before the live finale. Sun Heng Yu bursting into tears on stage because it is hard…like mama you think debuting will make it EASIER? You can’t just have a break down when things get difficult and you don’t do well, you have to work even harder and keep going. You can tell who MNET wants in the final group. They are purposely making Kangmin look as bad as possible and making Junmin more accessible and personable.

I_KPOP_Fan (Ry_Noona)

Also, the live voters are INSANE. wtf was that Xinlong or that Junseo score?

wen

Even though Kangmin did not do the right thing in that situation, overall he’s an amazing performer and I would not be mad if he debuted in this group

Candice Blair

You don't think idols who have already performed don't get anxiety attacks like Sun Heng Yu exist now? They do. Since it is the sem-finals, it makes even more sense why he mentally came apart. He's trying hard, and we see him practicing, but it's getting closer to crunch time, and he feels like nothing is working. Obviously, he was able to pull it together at the end, so kudos to him.

a weenie whistle

if you gooned to jiahao, you owe him at least one vote next week!!!!!

MC

Ching yu and his smile would've killed it in Sugar High

CRTJ

please consider donggyu yall😭😭 this group needs a solid main vocal. I’m not even being shady but I don’t know how the vocals will sounds like with the current top8. save this group and put donggyu as main vocal

weirde82

My top 8 are: Sang won, Leo, ZHANG JIA HAO, Donggyu, He Xinlong , An Xin, Jun Seo, Lee Jeong.