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a real thorny pill to swallow

cw: death, violence, attempted sexual assault, blood

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Xavier

grab your tissues, guys! 😭

Jody

As a happy ending girly this movie KILLED ME 🤣 I feel you Adam, love the cast but good lord

Ariel

I watched this less than a week ago for the first time. Am I ready to watch it again? No. Will I watch it with you guys? Yes.

Kimani Etoria

Well we all can trauma bond over this movie

Ariel

The ost in the end though (you missed it), I’ve been obsessed. It’s sad but his voice is just beautiful 🥺.

wen

as controversial as the movie remains, i do love the nuanced portrayal of the characters and their grief. not only their grief surrounding sek's death, but the grief in their own difficult circumstances and failed hope for the durian farm to serve as some sort of salvation. there is conversation to be had whether the ending is successful commentary, but i appreciated the attempt at examining intersectionality / identity and its resulting forms of oppression. mo and thongkam, both victims of sek's greed, realize too late that they are better together than apart. but it's to be expected since they were pitted against each other from the start. they both want to survive even if it means the decay of their moral character, but in their acts of desperation, they end up tearing each other to pieces. also the ost and acting were both just insane

Aurora Borealis

oh god this movie made me spiral so bad the trauma the grief the pain it was so painful and beautiful …good luck chiquititos who are watching it for the first time it will destroy you ❤️‍🩹

hayyy_png

omg i havent watched this reaction yet but ive been waiting for this since i watched the film im so happy it won the poll 🙏🙏🙏

Karen

this is definitely a commentary on capitalism, on homophobia, on gender politics, on evil men, etc. the saddest thing about all of this imo is if all the poor people involved just lived and worked together there would have been room they could have had comfortable lives together :( none of this needed to happen :( jingna's wish could have been a reality :(

Oh No

Well.. I thought this was going to be a very different movie, based on the way people described it

hayyy_png

i understand that it's a hard watch and there's a sense of hopelessness but i think its such a well crafted movie and was released at such an important time in thailand (during the final push for marriage equality). the way it shows how poverty amplifies the effects of the patriarchy and homophobia, and showcasing the lack of available welfare and labour rights, all while weaving thai culture in the mix. it's so expertly executed with amazing performances. its a film with so much to chew on.

Lin H

the attempted hetero r*pe scene completely took me out of this movie. the whole premise was that Thongkham's character is gay and that all his troubles are the result of homophobia and lack of rights for same-sex couples. even his mother told him that he could get married in Taiwan, referencing the fact that gay marriage was already legal there and that he's supposedly exclusively into men. it would have made sense for him to kill Mo out of all the anger and frustration towards her stealing his man and the farm. but r*pe? gay men don't r*pe women and it made me physically sick that this movie essentially implies that societal homophobia can lead to gay men sexually assaulting women who they are inherently incapable of being attracted to. this insinuation is horrifically homophobic and shows that a lot of people still think actual gay people don't exist. if he was capable of having sex with a woman he could have just married her or any other woman in the first place. the moment it was obvious that he's a bisexual misogynist who'd get vile satisfaction out of r*ping his female love rival and trying to forcefully impregnate her, this character was instantly dead to me. he could have just tied her up and stolen the durians with his boyfriend as planned, this plot point made absolutely no sense in regards to everything previously presented about Thongkham's character. after that scene I had no empathy for these characters other than Jingna who was the only decent person there and the only one pointlessly and brutally murdered of course. such a disappointment because it had the potential to be a well-acted poignant movie about the harsh inequality and desperation a lot of gay people suffer as a result of homophobia in the society and familial relationships. oh I just realized this was written and directed by Boss Kuno and now I'm even more disappointed :/ genuinely thought he could do no wrong..

Cryptid

Welp felt like I got ran over 50 times. Fab

rzeka

In hindsight this might have not been the greatest choice for a movie night. It's definitely a hard watch, but I still think it's a phenomenal film. I can understand people not liking it though

Lisa M T

I guess I can say Ive watched it now. Totally shocked by the horrible greedy characters.

George L

I debated watching this again with you and I did indeed end up watching with the same level of anxiety as Adam did. There's something I so desperately wanted to say but I have to keep my mouth shut for a bit longer...

Eleonora

I just finished Shine, I don’t know if I’m ready for even more tears😭

Eleonora

Only 15 minutes in but, yes Adam you should watch How to make millions before grandma dies🤸‍♂️ It’s a great movie, also very sad, but bilkin is amazing in it!!

phree

with every keng harit appearance we get closer to a khemjira reaction and for that i thank the lord

inherent whimsy of bisexuality

oh i loved this one. possibly even better on a rewatch! i enjoyed my time with these two very desperate characters very very much. lahn mah you're nothing

Deanora

red envelope would have a been a better livestream watch

xMarty93x

had to watch this in 2x speed and tbh I hated this bc it made me feel so sad. I grew up watching queer stories just like this where it all ended in tragedy and hopelessness and tbh ive been staying far away from this kind of "trope" since ive gotten into bls and stuff and yeah. I hated it.

xMarty93x

gotta watch a happy gay bl real quick to pallet cleanse

Ayuk

the ending is so stupid and honestly almost lazy. like there are other ways you could get the point across without it just being trauma porn

sharon

THIS IS MAKING ME TOO ANXIOUS i don't think i can watch it omg

sharon

oh wow i did not have a good time watching this lol jeff was great ! but im voting for the silly option next time

❣️ Vladlena ❣️

I've been wanting to watch «The Paradise of Thorns» for a long time, but I kept putting it off because I knew it would be heavy (even though I had no clue about the plot). That's why I voted for it, and I thought it was a sign that I should finally get around to it. The first 40 minutes and the last 10 were the heaviest. The middle, with the rivalry competition over the house and the orchard, allowed for a bit of a breather. The mother really pissed me off in the first part, and I totally shared Adam’s frustration. Honestly, if I were the main character, I'd strangle her with a pillow at night. That would be the end of the movie. I'm a huge fan of Boss Kuno though, so no matter that this his project was a really tough pill to swallow, I loved it. It truly is, in some way, a Thai queer analogue of the well-known «Parasite». No wonder Thongkam and Mo are on the poster — this film is essentially about their rivalry and the ugly bond formed over one man’s greed. The revelation that the deceased was, in fact, the true villain left perhaps the strongest impression on me. The film begins as a touching story of genuine love and its unfair loss, but it ends up as a chilling horror exposing human vices. And maybe it's because I just love books and films with a lot of psychological depth. Plus, originally I'm a fan of tragedies, though I've rarely watched them in recent years because of the harsh reality of war in my own life. That's why I hesitated for so long before watching this film. But I don't regret it at all. Thank you for giving me a reason to finally check this off my list! I'll definitely watch it again someday.

❣️ Vladlena ❣️

And now some of my notes that I was writing down while watching: 1:00:08 “Chekhov’s pesticides” and 1:29:54 “The red string of durian fate” cracked me up. And your faces at 1:01:44–1:02:10, when Jeff’s character started seducing Mo’s brother 😅😅😅 When Jeff’s character tied Mo to the tree and said something about a child — my face was just like yours at 2:05:25. I was GAGGED! That was a true plot twist. The killing of Mo’s brother once again flabbergasted me 😨

❣️ Vladlena ❣️

And last but not least: 2:09:42 — “I miss Billkin and PP” — Maybe it’s a time finally watch the second season of «ITSAY»? It’s been a year and I’m still waiting for you to finish this masterpiece 😭😭😭

ฅ ily ฅ 💮

Based on the trailer I did not think this was what it would be, I wanted to see y'all react to Keng and Jeff this movie is insane, it's so much darker than I thought it would be I'm wow this was a ride

Lu

Not me watching this before going to bed, thinking it would be something nice and fun with you guys. I guess I won't be able to sleep any time soon, I feel traumatized.

Princessyoku

chekhov's pesticide, chekov's machete. checkov's durian