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Andor: S2, Episode 12 (Jedha, Kyber, Erso) - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2026-06-15 16:00:20
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N.T. Stars

Super-interesting finale. It makes itself a penultimate episode and sets Rogue One up as the finale. Never seen anything quite like it.

Joseph Olson

Bail Organa saying “May the Force be with you” was indeed the only time that was said in this series, and our only encounter with the Force was the Force Healer in Episode 7. That’s one of the things that makes this series so special to me. No Jedi or Sith, no light sabers, just everyday ordinary people doing what they could to fight against an oppressive authoritarian government. None of us can picture ourselves as Jedi, but we can all imagine ourselves being a Cassian, Vel, Wilmon or many of the other characters in this show. Hopefully not many of us can imagine ourselves being a Dedra, but sadly that’s not true. I haven’t heard this myself, but I’ve read comments from other people who said that the creators of this show said that Dedra was imprisoned for being a rebel spy. If that’s so, then I’m sure that the Empire didn’t really care if that was true or not. She was imprisoned because she found out about the Death Star, and it was information that she had gathered about it, which she didn’t have clearance for, that was leaked to the Rebellion. It makes me happy to know that she’s going to get fried occasionally for not making Death Star parts fast enough (because we all know they’re building a second one). The ending was perfect. It flows seamlessly into Rogue One, and it’s great to know that some of the characters we’ve come to love survived, like Wilmon, Vel and Kleya (I love how there was just a hint of a smile on her face after she got some rest and saw the activity on Yavin). Finding out that Bix left because she was pregnant made her leaving Cassian a little more palatable for me. A military base that would come under immediate attack as soon as the Empire discovered its existence is no place to raise a baby, and there’s no way Cassian would have stayed with the Rebellion if he knew he was going to be a father. I was very happy to see that she and baby Andor are safe (and Bee, can’t forget Bee!). She seemed happy, which after all she’s been through couldn’t have been a better ending for her. Thank you for reacting to this amazing series. The reason I watch reactions is so I can relive my first experience of seeing something that deeply affected me. This show is art, it’s a political statement, and it changes everything about Star Wars for me. No longer is Star Wars a kid friendly space fantasy. This show makes it relevant to the real world. Once more I’ll apologize for the length of this comment. I do tend to go on and on when I write, and only when I write. This show does have a lot to say though. Thanks again for reacting to it, and I look forward to joining you for The Expanse.

Markus W.

The end with Bix always makes me cry! But it is also what it is all about: Love! It reminds me of the Revenge of the Sith novelization (maybe Jordan read that back in the day) and its last pages. Throughout the book, between chapters are these small interludes about how the darkness is always there, patient and waiting for the light to go out, mirroring the plot but the book ends with this, which I always l loved and has stayed with me: “The dark is generous and it is patient and it always wins – but in the heart of its strength lies its weakness: one lone candle is enough to hold it back. Love is more than a candle. Love can ignite the stars.”

Joe J

Great reaction to the show guys, enjoyed it. Cassie at PIB starts Andor this week...so it doesn't end for me, lol.

James W.

I have rewatched Andor an unhealthy number of times, like 6 or so on my own and probably 8 reactions to it. The big story beats, and monologues still hit every time. If I get another piece of Star Wars content in my life as good as Andor, I will be surprised and grateful. Tony Gilroy really did something here. The conclusion, with the music swelling and even slow-mo which often feels so contrived, is well used. Then, seeing B2 in good repair, with a friend, and Bix holding their child. Then the crushing realization that Cas will never see Bix, again, never know of their child, never see any of his friends again. I'm not sure those hits land as hard if you haven't seen R1 first but they were super effective for me. Many other Star Wars shows pander a bit too much and seem to lack confidence in telling their own story. Even Rogue One feels disjointed on rewatch because you can kind of see where there was some weird need to pander rather than to execute their own narrative goals. R1 is at its best when it is doing its own thing rather than trying to manufacture nostalgia. I would be very interested in seeing Chandra & Jordan's reaction to R1 in the wake of seeing Andor. It hit very different, some things became way more poignant and others became distractingly out of place/lacking. Gilroy and his whole creative team gave us a great addition to the universe that didn't waste my time, attention or insult my intelligence. Going back to other Star Wars shows, even after season 1 of Andor, I could see the difference in execution on every level and most left me wanting. There are some really high quality peaks in the Favreau/Filoni Star Wars stuff that meets a similar quality level but Andor just feels better, at least for my sensibilities. I watch all of it but most it I never feel the need to revisit. I bought Andor on bluray so I never have to worry about losing it because I drop Disney Plus.

Dude Longcouch

That was pretty much the perfect usage of "May the Force be with you" for this show. To me it feels like they were saying, hey, we know this wasn't really a typical Star Wars show, here's a bone for the hardcore Star Wars people.

Michael Jones

After seeing this a couple of times, watching the ending made me think of a take off of The Princess Bride: “Cassian does not die at this time.” “What?!” “You were looking a little worked up. Cassian doesn’t die here.” “Just tell me: who gets Dedra?!” “Who gets her?” “Who kills her? Is it Cassian? Wil? Syril?! Someone has to take her out!” “Nobody. Nobody takes her out. She lives.” “What?! Jesus, Grampa! Why did you read me this?!”

Michael Jones

A couple of notes, though. 1.) When you get a chance, watch through the end credits on this episode. There isn't a post credits scene, but there's a reason to let it play. Guaranteed to make you smile. 2.) Mon's husband was in that car at the end with the wife of Davos Sculden. His daughter's mother-in-law. Likes to gamble, Perrin. 3.) I think Tony Gilroy said Dedra is imprisoned on Narkina 2, the woman's prison. 4.) He half-heartedly say he'd like to see a series where Vel and Kleya go hunting Imperial War Criminals after Return of the Jedi, and they have to consult with Dedra as if she's Hannibal Lecter. Gotta admit, I'd be down for that. 5.) Watching Rogue One after this makes Vader's appearance a little jarring. It's like "Oh, yeah... there's space wizards in this reality."

Dan Harris

Denise Gough, who plays Dedra, says she was so pleased with where Dedra ended up. She said it was absolutely deserved, and she thinks Dedra is despicable.

Jon Johns

Remember: "I've decided for the both of us..." - Bix. The both of us!? 🤱😭

Jon Johns

Remember! Major Partigast was the measter who made the Sandor Klegain zombie for Cercei in Game of Thrones 😀

Jon Johns

Another great series could be the many Bothans who got the intelligience for the 2nd death star!

Jon Johns

Tony Gilroy stated that there are no "deleted scenes". They were very economical in filming. But, there were a few scenes written, but never filmed! One was Mon Mothma and her husband, where he reveals to her that he knew for a long time about her involvement in the rebellion! He knew, and never betrayed her. Anyway, that's official. He wasn't as big a sh1theel as portrayed.

Jon Johns

Tony Gilroy won a Peabody award this week. His acceptance speech was not filmed, but the transcript is available, and it's great! Read it if you get the chance!

Over50Gamer

As I said I would last week, I watched this finale with you guys tonight. I didn't watch this show when it was all hyped up by everyone, partly because I was sick of Disney's hold on Star Wars and partly because I don't like getting into things that the majority likes. Because of that, I tend to be late to the party on a lot of things. That being said, I enjoyed watching this whole show with you two Nuts! It really deserves the title of one of the best TV shows ever.

Over50Gamer

Oh, and also also alsooooooo.... maybe make Babylon 5 a show reaction possibility. Though the design and effects may be a bit dated, it's a great character-driven show and it's also, like Andor, a show that has a lot of socially-relevant things to say.

Jon Johns

If anyone cares... There is a tik tok channel that finds screen accurate props from (mostly) star wars media (movies & tv/streaming) including The Mandalorian & Andor! Most items are available on Amazon! https://www.tiktok.com/@4thelore?_r=1&_t=ZT-97Hxb7gaaXW (Nabisco, I think, has released the little blue cookies Grogu eats! But I think in the TV series they are French macarons! The cookies in stores are nilla wafers...)

Jon Johns

Regarding Luthens 'importance' to the rebellion... As I see it, he was an organizer, recruiter, facilitater, spy wrangler, intelligience officer, and to an extent, an alliance builder. So many outsiders only saw of Luthen what he chose to show them. 🤷‍♂️ Those whom he hurt, betrayed, overworked, neglected, lied to, etc... each had good reason to hate and/or mistrust him. But Cassian, and the rare few others, knew much about him (the good, and the bad!) and with hindsight, and distance, and perspective, and especially, after seeing how other rebel groups and organizations operate, they can see his contribution in total. 😭 If you watch a movie about spies (tinker, tailer, soldier, spy!) you'll see how even within a spy organization there are groups, separate, but together. Lots of suspicion, and resentment; drives and motivations differ even though they are on the same side...

PNWKyle

K2 wading through the Imperials reminded me that I read there had been a plan to introduce K2 with an entire episode set on a derelict ship where he was running wild and the rebels were trying to survive him, a combination of Alien and a horror movie. They decided it was too expensive to make that episode, but it would have been a cool way to introduce him!

Jon Johns

Just by coincidence, I recently happened to watch a few spy movies & tv shows, and watch a few interviews with real retired agents & operatives from around the world. They all reminded me that not all agents are 'james bond' types, some are researchers, analysts, and, recruiters. The recruiters, often called handlers, find insiders, already in place, often vulnerable, or dissatisfied, and through blackmail, bribery, or coercion, recruit them to spy for them. You all should watch more spy movies! Because Luthen, and those around him, do all of this. "Andor" is a political spy thriller! Ask you Patreon members to suggest spy movies, and put up a poll! Some will be slow-burn character studies, some will be mysterious intrigue, some will be action packed. Just like Andor episodes!