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S8E43: Champs (Patreon)

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Bret discusses slaughtered lambs, caved empires and maritime misfires as he replies to questions from Platinum listeners on the air.

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Patrick Reinbott

I hope, Bret will be having Lili Anolik on as a guest with her new book about Joan Didion and Eve Babitz!

Twan Van Geel

Thanks Adam! Best New Words Award for the Dictionary 2025 goes to: 'a Gaybieux' (*1:11:30)

Max

Just realized the end theme sounds like Big Mountain covering "Love Stinks."

John Q. Thompson

Dahmer was a possible cinephile too, I feel like that gets overlooked. He was very into "Exorcist III" (a great film actually) and "Return of the Jedi" because they contained scenes where characters wore yellow-tinted contact lenses to appear more evil. He even purchased said contact lenses to emulate those characters. I mean this is basically the same thing as internet film bros. buying those "Drive" scorpion jackets a number of years ago.

Billy Schafer

If anyone is interested, Scott Thorson did an interview with Opie & Anthony back in 2013 when Behind the Candelabra came out. He talked about his relationship with Liberace and the Wonderland Slayings. Thorson told O&A the reason that gangster Eddie Nash walked in the murder case was because L.A. mayor Tom Bradley was on Nash's payroll. It's a really juicy interview available on YouTube. Just Google "scott thorson and opie and anthony" and it should pop up under videos.

Trezerand

Adam with the nostalgic Quiz Show reference

JEREMY ROBERTS

32:00 in ....and LOVIN' every word! 😉😘

Bryan

When you gonna have Justine Bateman on the show?

N.M. Janice.

Aimee Mann continues to make good records.

richard owain roberts

am going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.

Harold B

I think Fincher does put his personal touch in it displaying powerless men who find opportunities to take revenge via an alter ego be they hallucinations an serial killer m.o. or a social network. I do agree his films are cold to the point of being emotionless

FlyingWaffle

A friend with very tired taste buds was visiting the other day. I cooked and gave her the choice between a plate with an old stale hamburger and a plate with a fresh steamy pile of shit. My friend picked the fresh steamy pile of shit. I realized that adding a bit of caviar or truffle mayo to the old stale hamburger wouldn’t have made a difference… I didn’t want to spoil my friend’s enthusiasm, so I didn’t remind her that the fresh steamy pile of shit will only seem special and fresh on the very first bite and that it will start tasting worse and worse after that.

Thumperdinck
>>155234691

Wow! That is so racist. How dare you compare voting for Kamala to choosing a shitburger. The comments on this podcast are getting so out of hand.

slimshadyfan666

My liberal father beat me when he heard me listening to this episode.

David Bell

Bret will revisit Social Network and change his tune

Iain

The Wonderland Massacre and The Secret Of Hollywood sounds great. Does anyone know where I can stream it here in Australia?

Billy Schafer

David Fincher’s movies tend to have a distant tone, but I think Zodiac comes closest to a personal film. On the commentary he talks about growing up in the Bay Area during the Zodiac murders and how the media coverage of it at time left a mark on his childhood. Zodiac still has Fincher’s signature chilliness, but it also evokes a mystique that feels deeper than a filmmaker’s exercise in detached style and technique.

Bryan

Armisen is the guest on the latest ep of the L.A. in a Minute podcast. He's very good and I kept wondering the whole time if he was being extra nice b/c he learned his lesson the hard way LOL

Sander August Schadenberg

I had the same experience with Gravity's Rainbow last summer. 20-30 pages of Slothrop and a can of coffee every morning – just beautiful.

Brian Rooney

Just listening tonight. Lol. Bret and Adam are fuckin morons.

Brian Rooney
>>155361373

yes. it's only been a week and the "common sense" comment has aged like fine wine. rfk jr in charge of your health? Lollll. Obvious choice. Matt Gaetz. Lolllll. i looovvvve how bret says he doesnt pay attention and then rattles off specific campaign $$ numbers. trump bs liars.

Quincy Battieste

No.... The Touch was written and sung by Stan Bush!

Johnny Blade
>>155389122

I'm glad SOMEBODY noticed!!! BLASPHEMY!!!! 😅 Middle-aged white dudes who love the animated TRANSFORMERS movie from '86 WAY more than they should UNITE!

FlyingWaffle
>>155361373

Haha, Bret and Adam would have no clue who Gaetz is anyway… and the hilarious claim that the left “made up” the entire fascist thing, when it was people Trump had on his own team who called him that… oh, and HIS VERY OWN NEW FUCKING VP once called him “American Hitler”… it’s too easy to claim one doesn’t care about politics while pushing bullshit MAGA propaganda and conveniently ignoring the most basic fucking facts.

Brian Rooney
>>155361373

Though cold, Biden's body is barely buried and Trump has already demonstrably proven his critics correct and his supporters (see above: fuckin' producer adam) wrong. But let's do the mental and verbal gymnastics, commit a litany of rhetorical fallacies (come on bret go fuck your bennington education), and then say "whatever - im fine youre fine were all fine". Lazy Gen X response, emperor's new clothes, ivory tower, out-of-touch, Club Random bulshiiitt. I tuned back in cuz i went on a hinge date with a dead writer's daughter and wanted to brush up bret but my god it hasnt been worth the last six episodes at all. (she turned out to be a red scare moron type anyhow)

Roscoe

The political Bret is such an idiot. Save it for your “dinners”.

Matteo Persivale

That's a lot of gloating for someone who insists on pointing out, all the time, that they're not partisan. A *lot* of gloating.

Bee
>>155361373

It’s weird that you think most people who voted/support trump are alarmed by the RFK or Matt Gaetz appointments. That’s exactly the kind of change and disruption they voted for (the exhaustion from the years of liberal condescension as seen in your comment also helped him win).

Brian Rooney
>>155361373

No. Wrong. Trump is not playing 4D chess. The only argument I will oblige is that electing Trump accelerates the inevitable demise of the human race. This liberal condescension crap is absurd. I care more about you than Trump by millions and millions and millions of miles, Bee. You got fooled. But it's hard to admit.

Brian Rooney
>>155361373

Actually! You're fuckin' trippin if you think I find it "weird" or am surprised that Trump picked a loyal lap dog like Gaetz.

Gatsby

I think Bret’s biggest problem is that he’s lived in a bubble (nicer LA/NYC) his whole life so politics to him consists of annoying liberal tweets. There’s wonderful cities and small towns all around America and I’ve visited and lived in them. But there’s also places where people would have no qualms beating up Bret for being gay (among other prejudices). And when you talk to them it becomes quickly clear why they voted for Trump.

Knokkel knokkel

We are very lucky that the toxic left is gone for good! After Trump we need his son as president 🇺🇸🥂

Happyhead
>>155632782

You're forgetting the YEARS he spent in southern Vermont at an exclusive liberal arts school. He even shopped at Price Chopper!

Ryan Peck

Not too late to drop a Wonderland murders reference or two in The Shards HBO adaptation!

Gatsby
>>155632782

And his birthdays at The Jonathan Club! My parents went there for a wedding recently and it’s no rinky dink country club on the side of the freeway or even a nicer one you join after you get the executive promotion. But I think he’d benefit personally and creatively if he moved to somewhere like Minneapolis or the nicer parts of Ohio for a year or two and I say this as someone who went from California to the Midwest for a while. It’s good to have different perspectives and while there is Trump land, there’s also lots of people who are liberal/left and pragmatic about it. And I think it would be mentally healthy for him to be around people who don’t give a shit that he’s a writer or who’s connected to who.

Happyhead
>>155632782

This is why Rules Of Attraction has the most "soul" of any of his works. He's out of his comfort zone, out of LA and NYC, exposed to things like discount supermarkets and townies and even hippies (the section about the hippie junkie listening to Iron Butterfly...you can tell he put in some light research there or at least thumbed through a hippie's record collection). Another novel based in a place not LA or NYC or mainland Europe would do the man some good, for sure.

Billy Schafer

Red-pilled Bret never fails to rile people up here!

Brian Rooney
>>155703806

Yeah. It's a fuckin' blast, Billy. I love being edgy and a nihilist. It's so cool.

souleraser

Bret DOES reference the Wonderland murders in The Shards, it's in the very beginning

Thomas ABILDGAARD

Lot of silly liberal cope in these comments. Maybe try to learn why you lost so you can win next time instead of burying your head in the sand. Or just keep doing your thing I guess.

Alexander Quattlander

I hear what Bret is sayin bout Wes Anderson having more personal films. But David Fincher WAAAAAY over.

Billy Schafer
>>155743838

They never learn. That's the problem. They still think they're the ones "fighting the man."

Ryan Peck
>>155739428

I read The Shards between December of last year & February of this year & I don’t remember that specific reference, but I’ll look again. I do remember the Billionaire Boys Club (BBC) reference, though

Brian Rooney
>>155468874

what is common sense about nominating a ton of morons who wont be approved by congress? do you think grinding our gears with trump shit for four years is common sense.

Brian Rooney

Dudes. It takes two seconds to respond to your asinine comments. Your comments read like people who literally who have not done their hw and are listening to joe rogan. grow the fuck up. adam sounds like a kevin smith character. both bret and adam are single and alone. you really really sound like 2016 morons

Stephen
>>155632782

Vermont is liberal AF everyone drives a Subaru. I saw a white couple with a black baby there within an hour of entering the state.

Christian Eden

Industry is a great tip! Just watched the first few episodes

J Hay

I worked on Aimee Mann’s first solo music video. “Say Anything” was the song, and Jon Brion was the producer. I liked the song so much that I bought the CD. For a long time, Aimee and Jon have performed (separately) at the Largo venue… which is close to Bret, based on where he says his podcast is recorded.

Patrick Devitt

Dear Bret, I have been a part-time film critic / journalist for over a decade. I agree with everything that you’ve said about the loss of a film critic that you can follow their taste by for recommendations, such as a Pauline Karl or J. Hoberman back in the day. I generally think our taste in film aligns much more than most people, and because you are always looking for new recommendations, I wanted to suggest a few directors / titles, you might not have seen: The films of Philippe Grandrieux (especially his 2015 effort, Despite the Night) Raúl Ruiz (especially his 2010 magnum opus, Mysteries of Lisbon) Pere Portabella, a Catalan director, producer, and politician, is vastly underseen: his 1990 masterpiece Warsaw Bridge will surely resonate with you. I would not be surprised if Paul Thomas Anderson cribbed from the beginning of this for Magnolia, not that the two films are alike. There is a Greek director Theo Angelopoulos that you would absolutely love, especially Eternity and a Day, Ulysses Gaze with a sublime Harvey Keitel, Landscape in the Mist, and The Dust of Time. He unfortunately died by getting hit by a car on the production of a film he was working on late in life. I’ve never heard you mention the works of Philippe Garrel, his semi-recent romance trilogy that uses a Freudian, Lacanian, & Jungian perspective to capture relationships is breathtaking; my favorite from him are Emergency Kisses & Wild Innocence. He is the father of the actor Louis Garrel, who I think could do very well in a BEE-type of role (a name to keep in mind for The Shards, perhaps ?) There was mention of Henry Jaglom on the podcast recently; have you seen Last Summer in the Hamptons ? Curious to hear your thoughts on that. I can go on and on, but another filmmaker I’d love for you to check out is Jean-Claude Brisseau, I think his use of explicit sexuality and mysticism is delightful and ever-so fascinating, his 2008 picture À l'aventure is a spellbinding cinematic masterpiece, and his earlier work like Celine 1992 is reminiscent of a more naturalistic French piece that I think you would love too. If you need any help find these films, I’d be happy to send them to you. My instagram is @pcdevitt or email me at pcdevitt@icloud.com

Adam Lehrer

MAGA !!! America saved !!!

Adam Lehrer
>>156388099

Grandrieux is brilliant but hard to find English translations of his films. I bought a box set of his on eBay once and was stoked and then found every single film had no English dubbing

Patrick Devitt
>>156388099

More than happy to put some files up on Google Drive of all his work for you, Adam ! Happy thanksgiving !

Florence
>>155219799

I was correct in my assessment that she really doesn't have much to say...to me personally

Sodaheiress

Don’t feel bad for Obama, he’s a terrible human being and he loves all of it

Sodaheiress

I appreciate Bret ‘not talking about polio on the show’ 😃