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S8E44: Strain of Thinking with Colonel Kurtz (Patreon)

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New Media Journalist Colonel Kurtz and Bret discuss modifying the human body, the American government's pursuit of P. Diddy and turning to horror to make sense of Hell. Part 1 of 2.

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Bookth

Weird to hear her caping so hard for Diddy — a man with few redeeming features, involved in multiple murders/acts of violence/honey trap operations against his own people. Spoken of openly by Kanye West, years ago, as a fed/someone to be avoided at all costs. Much of the hip hop community itself shares this suspicion - from commentator class like Joe Budden, to the basement dwellers on Reddit - they’re pretty much united in their hate of Diddy. They’ve either got first or second knowledge, or literally seen him do it with their own eyes on cam. I’m sorry but there’s so much stuff about him keeping women literally prisoner — signing young girls as artists then holding them hostage. Part of the case is him blowing up a car bomb on kid cudi. It goes on and on. Yes of course it needs to be proven in court, but in his case the evidence is compelling and it’s a strange cause to take up so ardently in light of the facts…

M. Nero Nava

I’m not sure one can be a cultural critic if most of her “content” is about the Mendez bros, and Marilyn Manson. Weird interests over on Earth 2. What year is this?! Also, I had the misfortune of looking at her repellant social media stuff (garish graphics, bad photos, shit production). Seriously, it’s some alternative reality stuff. Im perplexed by the stuff she cares about. I wish BEE would part ways from this low rent anti style sect that he somehow had gotten mixed up with. I almost thought Trump winning would free the show from these types of excursions, but here I am, bored to tears. Again, again, who cares about any of this?!?!? It’s dem/liberal derangement syndrome. Again, WHO CARES?? Compound that with a totally amateurish presentation—and it’s a wrap. Okay, I’ll cross my fingers for next week’s show to be better instead of this stunted pov, tired *pop culture references from some other era. It’s embarrassing.

John Q. Thompson

I loathe people who hide behind an alias on social media.

Ryan Peck

Wokeness started seeping into mainstream culture around 2014-2015, we reached Peak Woke in 2020-2021, & the tide really began to turn against wokeness around 2022 & the 2024 election has further confirmed that. Even the Harris campaign’s sudden (& questionably sincere) adoption of more centrist positions was a sign of this realization on the part of the Democratic Party establishment, but alas, it was too little, too late. I didn’t think Harris was qualified & I didn’t vote for her, but I also ended up feeling somewhat sorry for her since she was thrust into such a cruddy situation for which Biden deserves much of the blame (i.e. his refusal to recognize reality & drop out of the race sooner so as to allow for an open primary in his party). Other casualties of the 2024 election; the influence of celebrity endorsements, the influence of money in politics, & the influence of establishment “legacy” media.

Ryan Peck

Thanks Bret for your shout out to Grosse Pointe Blank, on another note! One of my favorite movies even though I can’t stand John Cusack’s politics ha ha

Andy Nowicki

Guest: "Well, not to offend your Hollywood friends..." BEE: "No, you can offend my Hollywood friends! Fuck 'em!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Andy Nowicki
>>155804271

If you faced the threat of having your livelihood wrested away for expressing your opinions online, you'd probably seriously consider writing under an alias too

Oleg

i love when bret says that he is apolitical and the next guest is some right wing grifter with a nickname “generalfeldmarschall rommel” or something similar.

Poetical Gore
>>155867738

BEE is apolitical. He just had on that leftist grifter with the authentic bs crap for 90 mins. Were you butthurt over that or was it your side?

Oleg
>>155867738

relax poetical gore. the only one with a butthurt here is you.

Poetical Gore
>>155804271

well, leftists started trying to get people cancelled over pretty innocuous stuff so cry to those little persecutors

M. Nero Nava

The benefit to a guest like this: when the cro mag, mouth breather, stunted folks start praising the guest due to ideology over aesthetics—you can just go thru and block them. It makes the comment section cleaner and funner.

GC

KURTZ: Hey, Bret, do you wanna talk about the National debt? BRET:

richard owain roberts

am going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.

Florence
>>155764536

There's been talk about Diddy's behaviour from literally 20 years ago. He's a monster who has finally been stopped. I haven't listened to the episode though so I'm not sure what she said...but again, read old interviews w Kim Porter, it was always there.

Nick Not Nolte

Bret ignoring MAGA cultist protests and worship like it’s a full time job 😂😂😂

R. M.

Cue the pearl clutching brat manlets melting down in the comments because BEE doesn’t hold their approved political views.

Mark DeCaro

Great guest. Wish I was as articulate as Bret or she.

Nick Not Nolte

also adam waaaayyy too mouthy in this episode. get back to your corner, bro.

Neil G.
>>155867738

no it is you you literally reveal the reason why Trump gets elected, and rightfully so...maybe you should get off the planet and let real liberalism, or even common sense, take over...the fact that you think you can insult anyone...let alone exist...😂😂👎👎

FlyingWaffle

Haha, Adam is really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. As a youtuber with a few thousand views per video, this guest is really great at spitting out her carefully rehearsed 300 talking points at 2.5 speed, all with just 12 breaths. Impressive but quickly unbearable. I'm really just in here for Bret's soothing voice, telling me that, no matter what, it's all gonna be okay! Winning an election with populist promises is the easy part - the Orange Con Man and his new Suicide Squad aren't even in charge yet but every day is already an exhausting shit show which sole purpose is to put his toddler level ego at the center of every fucking conversation... Lots of people clearly forgot how things were under him but give it a while and it will all come back, just 10 times worse, because this time the morons are totally unshackled and will have the opportunity to actually do lasting damage. So it won't be long before Bret will once again stop talking about politics altogether and claim that he doesn't follow what's happening because it's not his "thing" or he's "above it". Even him won't be able to deal with the relentless tsunami of crap that's coming our way, day after day, for at least 4 more years. And Bret should indeed have a good laugh while he can. "GAYS HAVE WHAT THEY WANTED AND WHAT THEY FOUGHT FOR! " He and his confused childless Hollywood queer friends seem convinced that their new MAGA/Project 2025/Christian Nationalist Bible thumper "allies" are going to somehow stop at rolling back women's control over their own body, taking back Trans rights, and banning porn... How cute, heh. I'm gonna sit back and watch, in relaxed amazement ...

N.M. Janice.

Couldn't make it to the end of this one. The YouTube/Instagram personality type guests are by far my least favorite, especially the ones who are seemingly right wing grifters. I have been listening to the podcast since the very beginning at Podcast One. I have always been a fairly leftist, Bernie Sanders type Democrat, but I have never been into the 'woke' identity politics stuff. I have always pretty much agreed with Bret on a lot of his cultural critiques. I do think that the Democrats haven't done enough to distance themselves from these narratives, and their inability to speak to working class people is a big problem and part of the reason that Trump got elected. That being said, fuck Donald Trump. He's a wannabe autocrat and a nefarious buffoon. He has already shown that he doesn't respect the rule of law or democracy. He is a threat to our country. Just because the left is annoying and wrong on a lot of culture issues, why does that make you sympathetic or an apologist for Donald Trump? The democrats have a lot of problems, and they need to tear it down and rebuild, but Trump is certianly not the answer. We should be able to hold two ideas in our head at the same time. Anyone who will talk all day about the failures of the left yet won't be as critical or more about the dangers of Trump and the rhetoric of his MAGA losers is not a serious person. They seem dishonest and incapable of nuanced conversation.

Stephen
>>155950084

You sound pretty exhausting yourself buddy. Also, 2020-2024 sucked pretty hard. Accept the loss and move on or ya know double up on your antidepressants.

Stephen
>>155810481

They forced him out a week after he said he was fit for office and made him look like an idiot. I don't blame him at all.

Stephen
>>155804271

Back in the day the Internet was fun and anonymous. You wouldn't have been able to handle it.

BuffyLuffy

Great episode. Damn even the commenters on here are so sensitive why are you even listening to this podcast. Everything she said made sense and seemed fair and didn't seem radical at all. Even with Diddy she's right that the media loves to sensationalize every little piece of information, guilty or not that's shitty journalism.

Erick

Halfway through and love the pod. People complaining enjoy the QQ I guess. Don't be fragile

Erick
>>155957215

There's no danger. His top picks are all former Democrats that see how fucked up and corporatized the Democratic party is. He loves his country and he's risked a lot to become president again.

Ryan Peck
>>155810481

If he was doing so well, why was he pressured by his own party to step down?

Alexander Quattlander

Love this rare political ep. Chick sounds hot too. But Bret better review Anora.

Harry G

Yes BRET liberalism has always been this bad. This is what it has always led to. This was always the end goal..

Jeremy

Terrible guest. Anyone who takes Tim Pool seriously is likely brain dead

James__

She sounds very considered and prepared to look at both sides - I really liked her. Ps - the good guys won.

Quincy Battieste

I liked this episode. I might have to check her YouTube channel. Either one if I'm ever in trouble I want her to argue for me good or bad. Lol! Also is it odd that her and Brett were saying sticky nutty and debauchery and certain key words in regards to Sean Combs? Lol!

Bryan

Re: the opening monologue, I live in Pasadena, have a ton of liberal/progressive friends, and I too have been surprised at the muted response compared to 2016. Like BEE, I also expected far more hysteria. But I think he's right (and I think Col. Kurtz is right) that most Dems/libs know on some level that it's all business as usual, that Trump wasn't bad the first time (in fact, he got zero done), so there's nothing to worry about. Anyone still spun up about MUH FASCISM at this point is a brainwashed NPC.

Ken
>>155957215

Not sure your sister would allow you to make that choice, Stephen. Your baby or not.

Quincy Battieste

... plus the fact I think Bret has a color complex.

Bryan

Nothing extreme about this Kurtz lady. Nearly everything she's saying (I'm only halfway thru) is stuff believed by normal Americans. The fact that some view her as an "extremist" shows just how far to the left the culture has moved.

Ryan Peck
>>155950084

I still have my doubts & reservations with regard to Trump (I didn’t vote for him or Harris this election), but I don’t buy into all the Project 2025/abortion ban fear-mongering nor all the accusations of him being racist, fascist, a Russian agent, etc. The GOP barely controls the House of Representatives & even though they have a majority in the Senate, they don’t have a filibuster-proof majority. Even if they wanted to embark upon the most right-wing agenda ever, they would never be able to implement all of it. They would still be forced to compromise with Democrats to get most legislation through. “Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, it becomes cost-prohibitive.” -William F. Buckley

Ryan Peck
>>155957215

I’m relatively center/center-right & I find the far left & far right both annoying in their own ways.

Ryan Peck

Bret should have on Matt Walsh from The Daily Wire & Ana Kasparian from The Young Turks as his next guests.

Oleg
>>155957215

lol we got a potential rapist named stephen here.

Oleg
>>155867738

neil g you have so many ellipses and so little to say.

FlyingWaffle

Some amusing facts we should all keep in mind while we are kept distracted insulting one another over "outrageous" issues pushed by whoever or whatever is running the show: The top 1% of the US population owns 40% of the wealth. The bottom 80% of the US population owns 7% of the wealth.

turtleboy

A good example of a right leaning podcast personality who gives equal shit to both sides is Tim Dillon. Any time Bret gets into culture war/political stuff he inevitably has venom for just the one side.

Gatsby
>>155957215

Agreed. I’m annoyed but am not going to unsubscribe if he’s just venting for a week or two. But if the next few episodes are “not politics but here’s a bunch of Daily Wire-esque episodes,” I’m outta here for a while. If he’s going for obscure guests, why not bring on a lesser known writer, filmmaker, etc. like with Chandler Morrison? A lot of non-mainstream artists are struggling for exposure and would kill to get a show like this. The irony is that Bret talks about “narrative” but seems to have constructed his own thanks to his own echo chamber. His books are being banned right now across the country and I’ll give you a hint, it’s the party with the red hats doing it. But that doesn’t fit with his n a r r a t i v e

Erick

Can't wait for the second part this was a delicious and highly nourishing podcast what a great guest

Ryan Peck
>>156020492

I agree with Bret’s takes on the left’s excesses, but I can understand why some may feel he tends to focus on the one side. I get annoyed when Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, Seth Myers, John Oliver, & the like only focus on the right’s excesses while ignoring those of the left. Bill Maher is a good example of a liberal (not woke leftist) who calls out the excesses on both the left & right.

turtleboy
>>156020492

Kimmel and Colbert are total non entities to me. Oliver at least does detailed issue driven pieces even if they have a slant. Bret is disappointing because he postures himself as a centrist who's outside of it all yet his political commentary is mostly crotchety conservative uncle talking points.

M. Nero Nava
>>155957215

I said over in my comment: I actually thought Trump winning would at the very least give us back BEE from the weirdo adjunct professors of youtube, and podcasters cloaked in the flag of undateable men. I thought we’d be okay. I was wrong I guess.

Patrick
>>155961967

Yeah, I liked her too. I don’t agree with everything she has to say, but it was a good interview. And I can like people I don’t always agree with as well. I enjoyed the episode.

R. M.
>>155957215

I respect that you didn't enjoy this guest and that you have different political views, but this guest is no different than anyone else with a you tube or a podcast and an opinion. "Right wing grifter?" What is her grift? Please elaborate on this accusation which is a textbook lib slander label. What? You don't like her opinion, so the fact that she is sharing it is a grift? Regardless of your opinion of Trump, democracy picked Trump. People of diverse colors, genders and backgrounds used their right to vote and picked him overwhelmingly. It wasn't even close. Kamala had the complete legacy media in her corner, a menagerie of celebs, and $1.5 Billion dollars which she blew through in 3 months and ended her campaign $20 million dollars in debt. Kamala lost due to A.) Claiming she wouldn't do anything different than the current administration B.) Failing to articulate her policies and how she would execute them C.) Failing to connect with voters because she couldn't even sit for a real conversation that wasn't heavily edited. "Threat to our country" We had no wars, a better economy, low inflation, low gas $, more secure border, etc. Interestingly none of these alleged threats to our democracy or country came to fruition in Trumps first term. Our current dementia addled lame duck president is sending billions to Ukraine to fight an unwinnable war while Americans rot on the streets and just authorized using US missiles in Ukraine to strike Russia who views it as a direct act of war and grounds to respond with nuclear weapons which now puts us in a potential nuclear stand off with Russia. THAT is a threat to our country. "Anyone who will talk all day about the failures of the left yet won't be as critical or more about the dangers of Trump and the rhetoric of his MAGA losers is not a serious person." You don't seem to get it. Do you think every person that voted for Trump is some "MAGA loser?" Are all the Latinos, the Amish, 64% of Native Americans, the women that voted for him, the thousands if not millions of dem voters that had enough and voted Trump this time, are they all MAGA losers? I suggest taking a hard look at the voter demographic data. "Trump's not the answer" I respect your point of view but it was a binary choice of Harris or Trump, and the country, many of which who aren't "MAGA losers," obviously felt Trump was the better choice for the country, even given his flaws. The numbers don't lie: there are far more people that feel the way Bret does about Trump than there are that though Kamala Harris would make a good president, so maybe reflect on that.

Justin

Any time the podcast veers into politics it's mind-numbingly boring.

Ryan Peck
>>156020492

Well, in fairness, he did say he’s always seen himself as the “old man on the porch”, even when he was a kid lol

BrienPiechos

Even when the guest is ostensibly a right winger they have no idea what they are talking about politically. There is no "pendulum." Every D administration takes 4 steps forward toward their goals and the following R administration takes maybe one step back.

BrienPiechos
>>156020492

Just because they are non-entities to you doesn't mean they are not major voices with massive platforms. The left deserves more shit because they're the ones who control everything and force their ideology into every institution and your home. The right get their way on one thing: abortion. Even gun rights are virtually nullified by courts always discovering creative ways to strip 2A. You can own a gun, but you better not use it.

BrienPiechos
>>156015990

They're the ones who work for the slave wages at the businesses owned by the 1% and their presence dilutes the collective power of working Americans so we can't demand fairer compensation.

Lionel
>>155979841

Tim Pool, the guy getting paid by the russians ? The fact that podcasts seem to be the primary source of news for a big chunk of US population should be concerning.

Ryan Peck
>>155979841

Not a Tim Pool fan myself, but establishment “legacy” media cannot be trusted anymore so don’t blame the audience for flocking over to podcasts

Lionel

Trumps own people, Vance and RFK, compared Trump to Hitler, it was not exclusive to the left. Also I’m Irish and I think Americans have gone insane. I don’t think they can handle the internet.

Jeremy
>>155979841

I’m by no means defending legacy media, but if a person can’t figure out that Tim Pool is a dumb grifter within 15 minutes they’re hopeless.

Ryan Peck
>>155979841

Plus, he doesn’t dress well & lacks aesthetic appeal. Why does he wear a beanie all the time?

Bryan
>>156020492

He attacks the left more than the right b/c he lives in one of the most liberal places in America. Not just one of the most liberal places in America, in the entire world. He's surrounded by progressivism, its far more of a factor in his day to day life than conservatism, so it's going to garner more attention. Yes, if he was living in Oklahoma or Alabama, he'd probably go after the right more.

rbkhe

rehashing cancel culture in 2024 is so boring

rbkhe

This guest raises a key point which is that those who are attracted to the "trad" lifestyle online these days are often coastal elites who were not raised in those environments

Charlie C

Surprised this convo is garnering this much hate... I much prefer convos on pop culture as well but this doesn't seem that controversial? There have been way worse guests than this.

turtleboy
>>156020492

Didn't you declare that you liked Nazism somewhere down the thread? Fuck off.

wade beal

Good episode this week! Bret and Adam - would enjoy hearing a conversation with Anthony Jeselnik. He cited Bret as a big influence during his appearance on the Dan LeBatard Show a day or two ago.

Lionel
>>155979841

Joe Rogan, the number one podcast, thought the state of the union was a Biden hoax….Joe Rogan can’t decipher between fact and conspiracy/internet gossip….and he broadcasts nonsense to millions of impressionable people

Neil G.
>>155984798

unless you are being sarcastic, get off this planet...you don't deserve to be here

Neil G.
>>155957215

oh wow, not only are you a low functioning subhuman thing but you call people who are anti-woke undateable incels when that is literally what you are...but that is the least of your problems...you don't stop...the fact that you are allowed on this planet is a crime against humanity 😂😂👎👎

Sascha Ciezata
>>155957215

Really? Can you provide examples of where Brets books are being banned across the country? And how “the party with the red hats” is doing the banning? Show us your receipts Gatsby.

Sascha Ciezata
>>155885021

Good idea bro. Just block everyone who challenges your worldview. Re-inforce that bubble! Sounds like a winning strategy for life and growth in general.

Sascha Ciezata

I never comment here but the pod has been 🔥🔥 these last few weeks. Optimism reigns. Woke is dead. America is back baby!

slimshadyfan666

The comments are better than the podcast. Hilarious, insane. Keep going everyone.

M. Nero Nava
>>155885021

You think blocking clowns who regurgitate group think conspiracies, with fragile sensibilities is a “challenge” to my worldview? Nah, it’s noise, it’s toxic waste, it’s tard talk. I’m trying to keep the conversation elevated and fun. Here, as a courtesy, I won’t block you. All better ?

FlyingWaffle

DONALD TRUMP, October 2024: "I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people. Radical left lunatics. I think it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen." That's right, Donald, the enemy from within, back when you were 23 and America was still GREAT ™: https://i.imgur.com/3Czlqhr.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/oFdI3Gp.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/MFCllY8.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/FAs6ctF.jpeg

FlyingWaffle

The guest loves facts, so here are some facts about DONALD TRUMP, the defender of free speech and enemy of cancel culture: - Calling the press “the enemy of the people” - Threatening to revoke the federally issued licenses of broadcasters who criticized him. - Advocating to change laws in order to make it easier to sue journalists and news organizations: “I’m going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We’re going to open up those libel laws.” - Proposing changes to the First Amendment outlawing flag burning: “I wanna get a law passed… You burn an American flag, you go to jail for one year… They say, ‘Sir, that’s unconstitutional.’ We’ll make it constitutional.” - Suggesting public protest ought to be illegal after the Kavanaugh fiasco: “I think it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters. You don’t even know what side the protesters are on… In the old days, we used to throw them out. Today, I guess they just keep screaming.” - Proposing illegal restrictions on the right to demonstrate near the White House and the National Mall - Revoking the White House press credentials of CNN reporter Jim Acosta, a Trump critic - Threatening legal action against publishing companies to stop the publication of books critical of him - Mocking journalists by name at rallies, with implied threats of violence against them - Wanting to shut down parts of the internet where people say mean things about him: “We’re losing a lot of people because of the Internet, and we have to do something. We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what’s happening… Maybe in certain areas closing that Internet up in some way… Somebody will say, ‘oh, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.’ These are foolish people.” What a terrific guy!

Sascha Ciezata
>>155885021

Spread that Joy, Nero! If there’s one thing Libs are known for its keeping things “elevated and fun”! Definitely.

Paul Richardson
>>156015990

I understand that. I’m in the UK and that was the historically left wing case for Brexit, which has been framed as ‘far right’ by neo-liberals. My point is that if the country is so awful why would people stream there in their millions? IMO what makes America great is the opportunity to get stinking rich - which inevitably creates wealth inequality. If you don’t like it don’t go / leave.

GC

Bret is fantastic on cinema, literature and music, it’s why I’ve been listening since the Podcast One days. But he’s on very, very shaky ground when it comes to politics, he admits this himself, he’s just not that interested! So devoting whole podcasts to the subject can be a tough listen. Suggesting Trump won because of pronouns is the most vapid, risible take possible, and it’s sad when Bret was so chill and empathetic with Laura Jane Grace all those years ago. And ‘illogical’ is a weasel word too. Bret is engaged with the ‘aesthetics’ of politics but that’s a very shallow approach that only gets you so far. And it’s hilarious how utterly uninterested he was when the guest tried to talk policy like RICO and the national debt. Bret is just a big ol’ contrarian queen who titillates himself by deriding the side people expect him to be on. That’s fine, but there’s nothing more complex to it than that. Still love the show, though!

Ben

Recently resubscribing to the podcast. Does anyone know the episode where Bret talks about Bob Fosse's Star 80? Maybe one doesn't exist, but I see a banner photo here from the movie and assume that it was discussed at some point. Cheers.

Ben

Bret - My god, please let the politics go. You are boring us to death. Can you please attempt a Captain Fiction interview?

Dee

boring 90s normie conserv

Oleg
>>156173231

it is in the first part of recent tarantino and avory episode. starts at 24:00 approximately.

Dee

libertarian but a fem and knows there is a lack of black characters (😂)… and well, as gay man, b this broad is daffy

Dee

worst guess ever - worse than Ruths criss guy

Thomas Rankin
>>156113377

He actually was on the podcast back in the PodcastOne days. It’s how I got into him. You can hear the episode on YouTube.

Thomas Rankin

I was looking forward to this and it did not disappoint. His monologue after Trump’s ‘16 election really put things into new perspective for me and I was hoping for comments this time too. While I think Trump is more dangerous than gets let on by Bret, his critiques of the left are often dead on and illustrate so well why average Americans have lost faith in them. Good conversation, looking forward to part two.

Will Ewell

Bret, would be super curious to hear your thoughts on that new Didion / Babitz bio—or even just your thoughts re: thinking of them in contrast to one another.

FlyingWaffle
>>156195371

Nothing will restore the "faith" of average Americans and the greatness of the country as fast as the promotion for the highest office of law of a 40-year-old guy who miserably failed multiple times to get a 17-year-old pregnant because he was too high! :_D

Chris Baccus

Good conversation. But complete misread of the liberal reaction, post election. Most everyone I talk to is just alright let's see how this goes. Tons of promises. So, it's F around and find out time.

Neil G.

the fact that she called those "intellectual exercises" in college is LITERALLY what has led to the destruction of western society over the last 50 years...and yet she still says "it started in the last 10 years" 😂😂...wonderful guest, but her worlds literally demonstrated the problem of the last 50 years...the fact that they essentially teach 1+1=3 in ACADEMIA and call it "abstract intellectual ideas"...the level of subhuman retardation...and they still make us go to those institutions...even the people who call the woke-tarded shit out are guilty of complying/misunderstanding...😂😂😂🙄🙄🙄 Anyway, lookin' forward to Part 2

Devin McKay

Wow. Media literacy really is dead. This is the wildest podcast I've listened to lately.

Miguel Magalhães

sorry just went off at 29’, started to get literally sick like in a pre-vomit condition. sad to hear this from BEE after been disappointed by Coupland before, being two of my favorite writers. well, time to move on. we will always have the novels.

OSOS

Super tired of the politics - he’s fallen off on all cultural commentary, you can’t get your news on the culture by not engaging with it AND only learning about the outside world through $500 dinners with grifters. Sad state to live in Edit: where does Bret find these people? This person makes low budget content on Marilyn Manson and the Menendez Brothers and somehow this is a guest worth paying money to hear? Invite some random of the street next time if this is our level of criteria

OSOS
>>155957215

What a fucking loser you are (Stephen). If you’re quoting Nick Fuentes you are a literal low iq dickwad. And also fuck all those who liked that. You’re actual scum bags

OSOS
>>155957215

His top picks - Matt Gaetz, a Fox News Host, a WWE CEO - are all brilliant ex-dems? Give me a break. Imagine going full retard just to own the libs

OSOS

Imagine going full retard just to own the libs. Bret’s pathetic lack of cultural awareness is showing as he ages

ill will

This kicks ass. You guys are actual snowflakes.

Chris F

Not sure how she made it on as a guest, but this was not good. And she's dead wrong on some info as well. Will skip part 2 for sure.

candy darling

not this MAN asking if the metoo movement did more harm than good 💀sir stfd and stay in your mf lane

Happyhead

The Diddy support is truly insane. When the smoke clears Diddy will be seen as even worse than R. Kelly/Epstein/Weinstein. There are multiple grand juries convened right now that will be handing down further charges involving rape of multiple minors, drugging and raping multiple further women and men and minors, and even possibly a couple of murder charges. This Diddy support won’t age well at all. To his credit, BEE never edits or erases his pods so this will live in future infamy

Ben

Colonel Kurtz is very intelligent and this was a very illuminating discussion, I loved it. It'd also be great to hear from Armie Hammer and James Franco, especially Franco.

Happyhead

“Mr. Combs was running an escort ring for himself only” wrong he was running girls against their will to celebrity sex parties through use of drugging, violence etc

Tom

Is Bret really going to point to 2016 as the last example of when a political "side" overreacted because of losing an election? Are we all just pretending The MAGA people didn't collectively lose their mind / storm the capital / invent conspiracies about Biden eating babies / refuse to accept that the Democrats even won for four years? I don't care what "side" you're on but come on dude, it seems like you're being dishonest here.

Tom
>>156526893

Does the BEE podcast, of which I am a subscriber, count as DNC approved media? The truth is I don’t watch the news, and I actually consume more right leaning media than left leaning. It just frustrates me when people will point to the other side without first acknowledging that THEIR side is equally (if not more-so) guilty of the same thing. It’s hypocritical. But here I am giving a reasoned answer to a name-calling troll. I won’t respond again

OSOS
>>156379888

I don’t speak whatever low form of English that is

OSOS
>>156380453

Aww, another low T aging man feeling like they need to move to the right to feel manly again?

Ryan Peck
>>156009131

I think those who disagree with my suggestion object more to Walsh for ideological reasons (he is more solidly right-wing, after all), but some might even object to Kasparian as well. Although she still leans left politically, she’s now more independent-minded & has been more vocal in criticizing the left’s excesses. I also think those who disagree with Bret on politics probably want him to stop talking politics. Those are probably the reasons why.

Ryan Peck
>>156009131

I don’t always agree with Walsh & Kasparian on all of their respective positions, but I think they’re interesting enough to be guests on here (on separate episodes, of course). Walsh’s documentaries What Is a Woman? & Am I Racist? have gained significant traction & have elevated him as the right- wing answer to Michael Moore. Kasparian, as a more left-leaning commentator, should be invited on as balance, but I respect her for her open mind & willingness to engage in good faith discussions, even with those she disagrees. I really could see Bret having engaging conversations with both on topics pertaining to the current Culture Wars.

Normaling

But….what do you think about The Eagles?

Lionel
>>156082824

That’s interesting that you feel that way about something you just made up.

Justin
>>156040324

Hopefully your cavalcade of middle school level replies provides some sort of comfort to you, as you are obviously a deeply unhappy person.

Erick
>>156526893

More damage and life was lost during all the "mostly peaceful" but firey protests than a handful of dummies "storming" the capital through doors opened for them. Capital police walked people around the capital.

Ryan Peck
>>156526893

The Summer 2020 riots & the January 6th, 2021 riots were both bad, two things can be true at once.

Someone Else

This woman completely misunderstood Hegel’s dialectic. It’s not a pendulum because there is thesis, antithesis, then a higher synthesis, which is why Hegel believed history was the gradual unfolding of higher forms of government culminating in liberal Democracy. And this where Marx got the idea for dialectical materialism—the idea that history is the unfolding of successive forms of organization of the means of production that will inevitably result in communism. But dialectical thinking is definitely not the idea that history is a circle.

Someone Else
>>156195371

And the left’s demand that the media pander to their worldview is why people have lost faith in the media. If the left didn’t demand the media act like activists, there would have been more coverage of Biden’s cognitive decline resulting perhaps in an open primary where Democrats could have possibly nominated a candidate who would have beaten Trump.

Someone Else
>>156157370

I agree with your criticisms of Trump, but I also think that Bret’s critiques of the media are valid and something Democrats need to face. Trump’s rise coincides with a steep decline in newspaper readership caused partly by the rise of social media, but also caused by the trend that started around 2000 of journalists thinking of their job as activism. Distrust in media started before Trump, and Democrats need to go back and take a closer look at the mistakes they made (thinking journalism was activism) that allowed Trump’s attacks on the media to land. The fact is that Democrats would benefit from a more non-partisan media, which is why it is laughable to see “progressives” canceling their Washington Post subscription because Jeff Bezos realizes this fact.

LPR

If this isn’t a political podcast, STOP TALKING ABOUT POLITICS. You mention that people are exhausted from it, so stop exhausting us further. PLEASE.

Michael Madonna

This listener agrees with the host on these subjects and is glad he's got the courage to do this episode, keep telling it like it is Brett !

J Hay
>>156526893

I hate the DNC. I haven’t been a Democrat for decades, and I’d never be a Republican (not of the past century-and-a half or so). The MAGA/Fox/Shapiro/Poole/Rubin/Jones/Walsh/Peterson/Rogan/Maher/Dore/Brand, etc. angles are insipid and/or insane… or, more likely, more profitable. By the way, I used to like Maher, Dore and Brand at times — and Rogan having Sanders on his show was good. That’s all gone now.

J Hay
>>156414720

THAT inane trope, in late 2024? There are lots of sensitive “snowflakes” on the MAGA side.

J Hay

Considering the upcoming disaster most of this country and much of the rest of the world will be subjected to — thanks to ignorant and gullible voters, and the greed and influence of Murdoch, Musk, Bezos, etc. — this will be the last guest of this show for me. Bye.

Matt

Ruth Nega was the best thing about Presumed Innocent. There’s nothing weird about her casting. What is weird is that your guest thinks a mixed race family is weird.

Stephen
>>156924618

You see mixed families more on TV than you do in real life. Every single commercial is like that now.

Stephen
>>156526893

If anything the govt overreacted. Threw a guy in jail for 20 years over a torn down fence. Shot and killed Ashli Babbit. A 120 pound woman.

Stephen
>>156466321

Y'all are all about female empowerment until they deviate from your talking points. Kamala lost. She's a loser. 20 million in debt. Next stop rehab.

Stephen
>>156380453

Have you seen all the videos of the libs crying? The ownage is real.

OSOS
>>156380453

Oh wow some ppl have some emotional reactions to an election. Have you seen the absolutely batshit stuff republicans believe and say these days??

Stephen
>>156368330

Of course the guy wearing the stupid fedora gets ill because he hears things he doesn't like.

Derek Gereg

I don’t agree with the politics of this episode. However I do like to hear from people who think differently from me.

Matteo Persivale

Once again, that's a whole lot of gloating for someone who insists -- insists, really -- he is nonpartisan. It's also interesting that pussy hats -- not the best idea ever, of course -- still bother BEE so much after 8 years: after all, the point of the protesters was that Trump would overturn Roe and.. they weren't wrong, were they? Also sad that the attacks on MeToo -- another favorite target of BEE -- wilfully ignore the reality that at least MeToo helped shed some light on truly appalling, illegal behaviors. To criticize MeToo so aggressively while ignoring all the actual rapists it helped send to prison seems kind of revelatory, not in good way. BEE seems ready for a bigger stage than this podcast, maybe Fox or OANN. He's truly a brilliant man and still mediocrities like Gutfeld, the LibsofTikTok lady and Catturd are getting rich off of the same anti-woke shtick.

Matteo Persivale
>>156165996

You cannot be a contrarian when the side you hate lost all three branches of government and the side whose win made you so happy will enjoy basically unlimited power.

OSOS
>>156379888

Rhetorical question. This woman gets 5k views on YouTube for Manson obsessed vids. More likely he found her since she’s on Tim Poole and Shane Cashmans podcasts - too embarrassed to admit he still listens to Poole seriously

Samer Akl
>>157098552

There’s a certain fatigue with hearing complaints about PC culture that equals the staleness of that culture. Just get over it all.

Louis

I was very surprised to see Colonel Kurtz on the podcast. Interesting guest!