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S6E7: Frigid Cracks in the Statue with Stephanie Danler (Patreon)

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Writer Stephanie Danler and Bret Easton Ellis discuss Raymond Carver's exalted Cathedral and the pure joy of Gary Indiana's Resentment. Part 2 of 2.

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paul dakota

This definitely didn't need a part 2. Funny how I've never heard a serious writer speak with quite that much vocal fry. Weird eh?

PETER GREER

…the hilarity to me about American P. is the up & down evaluating of the guys that Pat B. does ….. it’s so true no matter how much you spend on clothes you’re always insecure about what you’re wearing

Thomas Edwards

Trigger warning. Joan Didion is a deft and interesting writer, but not a great one. She does not transcend. Her writing is possessed of a certain self conscious formulaic pretension. Totally get the appeal to a young writer studying forms and style. But she is way below the league of Hemingway (who she tries to imitate), Fitzgerald, Faulkner or even Chandler! Let alone Tolstoy, Balzac, Flaubert, Mann etc. Of course, overseas, we don't quite get the whole connected 'cool' (anorexic, sedated and sexless) Jewish chick aspect that seems to play into her overall vibe in America. Perhaps not as powerful when you just read it as it lays.

Christopher Jones

I don't think Mirage and Tango are bad records at all. There are some wonderful pop songs on them, even if they don't have the special aura and mood of Rumours or Tusk. Recently, I've been listening to the underrated Bare Trees and Future Games. Such a relaxing vibe to that era of their music.

Taylor Lewis
>>87574587

Mirage is a fantastic cocaine hangover but Mirage - Alternate Takes is stunning, and what I imagine was a hard look in the mirror for them.

Neil Anderson

I thought Martin Amis nailed Joan Didion's flaws in his essay on her included in his book, "The Moronic Inferno." "Mannered."

Devon H. Dolan

First time chiming in here, from someone who's been listening since the beginning. Stephanie's opening was my life. A party. I grew up as a pro-am surfer in Laguna Beach feeling like an outcast for kicking back on the sand reading the same books mentioned. Beautiful, formative, times... that compelled me write here now, and start then. Funnily enough, it was exactly a decade ago I was sleeping in my car in Malibu to work on The Canyons. My surfboard rode shotgun. Oh the lustful stories from that set. Here's a thread linking to the bizarro cover letter I sent Schrader to get the gig: https://twitter.com/devonhdolan/status/1547047250748391424 Thank you Bret & Adam for your continued work here, and for always pushing the bounds. I've never felt more at-home listening these convos. The Eagles are Coors on Lake Havasu.

Patrick Lowery

“The Vampire Lestat is a masterpiece.” Tru dat.

Charles Bennet

Ken Nunn's Tapping the Source is finish-at-dawn book. He should have sued the producers of Point Break. The samoan orgy scene haunts me to this day.

Michael Zaccur

I could hear them both talk about books for hours … what a great guest … I loved Sweetbitter as well

Todd

Adam I was a little in doubt about splitting some interviews over a couple of weeks but it’s great, gives it a nice pace. I don’t think anyone wants 2 & 1/2 hours in one sitting

mr greyez
>>87578875

Whenever a work (fiction, film, art etc) is characterized to a greater extent by its style than the subject matter, there's an inherent tendency towards mannerism. And as in the case of Didion, the 'mannered' artists probably can't quite help themselves (nor does Amis; he's trapped in his own verbose idiom).

mr greyez

Obligatory repudiation of 'unfunny' DFW – his footnoted asides are often hilarious in their neurotic punctiliousness (& he was puzzled by people who regard IJ as a funny book). Also, his 1988 essay on the US literary scene still fits this week's Carver/workshopped writers discussion like a glove. Dig dis: "Where television does and must aim always to please, the Catatonic writer hefts something of a finger at subject and reader alike: one has only to read a Bret Ellis sex scene (pick a page, any page) to realize that here pleasure is neither a subject nor an aim." https://neugierig.org/content/dfw/ffacy.pdf?src=longreads Thanks everyone for the lovely podcast.

Iain

I could listen to this shit for hours. Great episode.

Alex Waller
>>87607066

Yup, also can’t forget in Infinite Jest when Madam Psychosis reads Bret’s books on her radio show and DFW describes it as something along the lines of particularly excruciating. I can certainly believe DFW is not Bret’s cup of tea as a writer but the constant digs are obviously due professional rivalry and IJ’s formidability more than anything else

bpvalentine

Hey, Adam or Bret, I don't know if you two are at all involved with the audiobook for The Shards. Bret had many images to share with us during his DIY version of The Shards audiobook that wouldn't normally make it on the Audiobook version. It hit me to ask why not? I listen to books on an old iPod Nano. Regardless of what people use (aside from CDs, if that's even a thought at this point), wouldn't it be possible to stick images or whatever special feature on screen during relevant places where the book cover would be normally? I realized then and there what a missed opportunity it is for audiobooks to not use stagnate screens. I realize you guys probably have no say at all, but in case you're ever asked for ideas, please feel free to use this one if it appeals.

edwin

Less guests like this and more monologues pls :)

Darren Ankenman

Future guest request - the two guys Bret would go see movies with constantly as a teenager. The movie club boys. And maybe let Dominic Gross sit in

Grant

Great guest

D Michael Hardy

Great guest and talk about books and writing! Also, Bret's schedule of writing till 7, then taking a shower, having a cocktail, and watching tv/movies for three hours sounds perfect.

Graig Gilkeson

Nice interview. Stephanie Danler is well-read, articulate, and funny. These author interviews are the best.

Magnus Blomdahl

Great episide! Would be even greater w some kinda list of books/films being discussed in each episode.

James__

Shout out to Stephanie. She knows her damn stuff. Great ep. Thanks guys, really enjoyed it.

Steven Menelly

This and pt 1 from last week were great episodes. The peek into the secret world (whether NYC restaurants, empire fiction, writing) is what makes the BEEP so cool. Ya can’t Google this stuff

Alex Bielovich

Another cracker! Getting onto that Bennington podcast next.

P Smoke

Just ordered ‘Tapping the Source’. Thank you for the always brilliant book recommendations 🙏🏻

Pp358

Fun conversation, really enjoyed this one.

Patrick Lowery

Loved the cooking question. My fav of the session. Thanks to whoever asked that. 😎

Jorge Espinha

I'm glad I listen to the second part, Stephanie won me over. I must apologize for my first impression. Great analysis on Didion, made me think about it.

Jorge Espinha

I'm going to listen to this episode a second time. I need to clean my mind from the Rose Mad-Gowan episode.