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S6E8: King of Pain (Patreon)

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2022-07-18 21:04:12
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Bret Easton Ellis discusses the ruination of the King of Rock n' Roll and dining with Gore Vidal as he fields questions from Platinum listeners on the air. 

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jana

Austin Butler was very good, Baz is overblown

M. Nero Nava

A little surprised Bret didn’t know sophisti-pop masters Cock Robin. They’re someone Patrick Bateman would enjoy. I’m not a fan of them, but they seem up his alley

PETER GREER

Great episode thank you for reading my question …

ck kane

Two writers that would be great to have on the podcast are Chelsea Hodson and Thomas Moore (author of “Forever”, most recently)!! 🤔

Thomas Matich

Looking forward to the Kid Rock episode.

Thomas Matich
>>87874173

Austin was the movie. Not sure what people expect from Baz. I did think his flashy style was a good fit for telling the story, especially the Vegas parts. I was entertained. Is it a good film? Eh.

Thomas Edwards

Laughed out loud to the cold lasagne and imperious eyes.

bpvalentine

Wow! I've having trouble keeping up with all these episodes!

honker_2021

One million percent agree! The last episode was fascinating. And, I look forward to hearing more writers on the POD. When I was a kid I used to watch writers interviewed on talk shows like MERV and Cason. I miss that.

Harold B
>>87874173

FACT! Austin Butler was born for this role. Baz is way too self-indulgent as a director, which really bothered me in the beginning during the heavy Tom Hanks VOs. But, became less and less of an issue as they let Austin Butler do more in the movie besides just sing, dance, and look cool. I also think the movie was too long. But, again, Butler was so good he kept me invested until the end.

Harold B

I agree with Bret's take that it's needlessly depressing. What that era represented was clean, high energy, and uplifting. When the movie wasn't complaining about Elvis's cultural appropriation, the oppressive government censorship, his manager's evil exploitation, Elvis cheating on his wife, Elvis repeating his mother's substance abuse. As for the exploitation bit, while he was definitely an evil man, I think Elvis's manager turned him into an icon--something more than just a singer/dancer, something ethereal, which is why we're still taking about him in 2022. If it weren't for his manager, Elvis would have just been a pop star turned lesser James Dean And, I'm glad the movie showed this to people who may not have known that.

Harold B

Asking him about the Eagles after he cried would have been the most epic trolling, you've lost your edge BEE! 80s/90s/00s nihilist bret would have gone for it!

Alex Bielovich

Guess I'm one of those people who likes the indulgence and the lavish style. Loved Elvis. As someone who works in design and animation it was riveting.

BrienPiechos

"Take some pills baby," cracked me up. And yes, get Kid Rock. Give his albums sine 2007 ands especially the ones Rick Rubin produced a spin and you'll see why people actually like him now who you would not expect. Songs like "Born Free" and "First Kiss" are great. He's great at capturing nostalgic Americana sorely needed right now. It's uncomplicated country rock and roll meant to be enjoyed, not beat you over the head with an agenda.

Bridget H Burns

Loved the Q/A about food/cooking habits. A writer I’ve always wanted to suggest but now it seems like it’s a topic open to discussion: David Leo Rice. He has an interesting point of view and I can imagine an overlap with Bret’s sensibilities. He could be considered a genre writer. A Room in Dodge City may be of interest.

Mary Walker

Looking forward to this. Revisiting some 90s cinema. How about Campbell Scott as a guest?

Scotty Arms

Patrick Bateman would most DEFINITELY have listened to Cock Robin! 🤣

E

Poor Simon Rex...forgotten already

Brian Rooney

1. Freedom 2. Purity 3. Corrections 4. Crossroads All great. But those are my preferences … Walter and Richard in Freedom are my favorite characters … The plot of Purity is, as Franzen often says, delicious. The murder in the middle of that novel is page-turning stuff … I recommend Bret does a deep dive on each of his own novels. An episode dedicated entirely to Rules, Informers, White, etc. ☮️

Chris Wolf

David Leo Rice. Hands down one of the best writers of his generation. Smart, funny, incredibly engaging speaker, as well. He’s a huge fan of BEE and shares with BEE very similar tastes in writers. He had his own podcast (Wake Island) which, sadly, just posted its final episode. Many of BEE’s guests have appeared on Wake Island. Can guarantee a 3 hour conversation between these two would be an all time BEE podcast highlight. Very easy to reach David. His website is http://raviddice.com/

Michael Walsh

No, no. With rare exceptions, visiting the modern American novel is about as appealing as going to the modern American movie theater.

Fausto Johann Johann Lopez Rosado
>>87992001

I meant i felt ripped off, financial exploitation, expected an episode and got a bunch of bullshit. Adam is an anti intellectual and should not get near a microphone ever.

Alex Waller

C'mon, guys! You can't remember the last time an actor was on the show? Simon Rex, Dana Delaney, Mena Suvari, Greg Ellis, Dasha Nekrasova, and Novak which you mentioned and that's just off the top of my head

Stephen

Have Gavin McInness on, he was mentioning a funny story on Cumia about how he texts with Bret and sends 6 texts for every 1 text Bret sends.

mia

brad renfro ❤️❤️

mia

just ordered crossroads…reading glamorama now!

MikeE

Oh GOD another dreary Q&A. Bret tries his best, but the questions are almost always cringingly bad. And I presume the best of the bunch are selected? Jeeezus.

Brian Rooney
>>88036990

Lol. I’ll admit the cruise toward the end is amazing. And the sister’s kitchen/ cook experience with the broken chair … Franzen!!!

Neil Anderson

i think mcinerney's a terrible writer. i read "brightness falls," and i couldn't believe how hamfisted and obvious it was.

Nicholas Vinocur

I also walked out of Jurassic World ! Gang gang

Thomas Matich
>>88026425

Simon Rex was one of the best episodes in a while. Liked him better than the recent writers tbh.

Steven Volynets

Devastated to learn of Ryan Leone’s passing. That’s what listening to these podcasts can do sometimes -- forge an unlikely bond with a stranger. But his death also made me think of my friend Dan “The Apologetic Bandit” Genis, also a former heroin addict who spent 10 years in NY supermaxes. “While incarcerated for a decade, I read exactly 1,046 books,” Dan writes in Booklist about his progression from pulp to Proust. “I kept a list, and as a result I can now track my evolution.” His book, Sentence, is one of the funniest I ever read and Dan himself a riot. Beyond prison time stories, I heard him recount battles with his Random House editors who ultimately removed entire passages from chapters like “White Power Shower Hour.” A shameless plug for a friend, I know, but Bret should totally get Dan on the podcast.

Nick Not Nolte

fun questions! also, rip ryan leone. loved his episode from this year

NLJZ
>>87993080

Asking people about The Eagles is arguably the least edgy question in the history of podcasts.

Pp358

To whoever asked about why Bret didn’t ask about the Eagles: thank you! I now know Bret was just being classy and compassionate.

Harold B
>>87993080

It's not the question itself that'd be edgy. It's asking someone such a question after he just got finished crying about the Uvalde shooting. It's disrespectful, it's highly inappropriate, it lacks empathy--and that's what gives it edge.

NLJZ
>>87993080

It made no sense in the context of the conversation. Anyway, what you're describing sounds less edgy and more like being an asshole and a bad podcast host.

Jorge Espinha

I totally agree, writers are the best guests. Great podcasts.

Keith campbell

I am sad that Bret doesn’t cook anymore as part of his current hermit lifestyle

Matt

Enjoyed this ep. But as an Australian it’s sounds to me like Bret says Buzz Luhrmann. 😆 It’s Baz like Chaz.

Morgan Hobbs

Earlier this week I rented a place on the Amalfi coast for a few days. After giving me the tour, the Airbnb host pointed up at a gleaming white villa perched at the very top of the high cliffs. He said that Gore Vidal used to live there. I was awestruck. Incredible , I thought. he lived like a God. A writer. A fiction writer. After hearing the story about the Mengers party, now all I can think is what a pain it must have been to drag his drunk ass back up that mountain after every boozy brunch on the beach. Around those windy mountain roads. The driving there is insane.