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S7E16: Theater of the Uncomfortable with Guinevere Turner (Patreon)

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Screenwriter/Actress Guinevere Turner and Bret Easton Ellis discuss the treacherous task of casting Patrick Bateman, the quandary of narrating a movie unreliably and basking in the unabashed dedication of Christian Bale as they continue their conversation from last week. Part 2 of 2.

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Oleg

really good 👍.

Keith campbell

Lots of great inside tales about making movies! Some unfortunate opinions on Tom O’Neill, Joe Rogan and OUATIH at the end but nobody’s perfect.

Patrick

👏👏👏

Jorge Espinha

Good episode. I might have to rewatch American Psycho, I might be wrong because I think it missed the point totally. The movie gave too much focus to the gore and missed what in my opinion was the main subject of the book, the sleepwalking existence of those people. The indifferent and the numbness of the characters. I think it's a medíocre movie. I can be wrong, I have to rewatch the movie. She was involved with the L word? That one I don't have to rewatch, it was pure unadulterated shit. What can you think about kids coming from well adjusted middle class families that go to a home at night and murder a group of people, that had done no wrong to them or society in general, one of them 8 month pregnant woman? It's not evil? So, she doesn't like Joe Rogan? I don't subscribe most of what Rogan's promotes but he's a voice of dissent these days. The reason she has no more success isn't the patriarchy it's because she's medíocre. However, she sit down and talked to Bret, which is commendable, I suspect BEE is being blacklisted. Bret have you been to Portugal? I guess I missed you again!

richard owain roberts

am going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.

Joseph Murphy
>>110197797

Additionally, those “bros” using the Bateman meme understand that character far better than this lady.

Steve

Good episode. But I find it depressing that every guest seems surprised by his question about the Eagles. Do NONE of them listen to the show?

Paul Richardson

Anyone else listen to Boys of Summer right after the podcast ended?

John

Loved this episode. Not uncomfortable in the least.

Jon A.

Great interview. Every anecdote about the making of AP is always gold. DiCaprio is great but it was better for everyone that he ended up walking from that role. Unfathomable that anyone else besides Bale could’ve embodied Patrick B.

Oleg
>>110236358

you are overestimating people’s desire to pay for content.

Oleg
>>110197797

why do you need to listen to rogan then anyway? he is not very bright and doesn’t need to be defended every time somebody mentioned pretty popular distaste for rogan’s mediocrity and his appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Jorge Espinha
>>110197797

The quality of the guests. The absence of Jonathan Frazen for instance. I think is having difficulties having guests. I could be wrong

Oleg
>>110197797

he is so blacklisted that hbo has his new book in production.

Jorge Espinha
>>110197797

Rogan is naturally curious and has a real interest in what the guests have to say. He does have some interesting guests from time to time. Most of it doesn’t interest me. I’m not into MMA, ultra fitness, special troops or (the worst of them all) comedians talking about comedy. But he does have scientists and public intelectuals that are interesting

Sam
>>110236358

The faux shock at the question is a bit awkward when only a few minutes earlier she made a reference to a discussion Bret has had on a recent episode (in this case about younger generations not being in the guild). Not the first time this has played out either. I feel the Eagles thing has run it’s course now.

NLJZ
>>110197797

The quality of the guests went down once the podcast became subscriber only. When it reached a wider audience there were plenty of big / quality guests because it made sense as part of book, movie, album promotional tour. Another issue is that they seem to only have in-person guests which limits them to people who either live in or are visiting Los Angeles. If a big name writer (like Franzen) is on a book tour and stop through LA (rather likely) BEE podcast is competing with podcasts, magazines, events that can draw way more public attention. So, really, unless a potential guest is a friend of, fan of, or feel some sort of kinship with BEE, or are simply hard up for publicity, why would they come on this podcast?

Jorge Espinha
>>110197797

It was a theory of mine. But as it was explained to me in the comments it’s unlikely. So I will drop it, I was talking about something I do not know. I was wrong. Maybe Bret should revise is demand of in person interviews

NLJZ
>>110197797

I should add that I DO think there are some excellent, realistic, potential guests that are probably not on BEE's radar. A couple of writers that released books in the last few years that spring to mind: Sam Tallent and Jon Lindsey.

Brian Rooney
>>110197797

“Rogan generally eats ice cream and pizza for every meal. But sometimes he has a celery stick and a grape tomato.”

Patrick
>>110295913

Thanks for posting that. CB didn’t seem too icy towards 🐝 I don’t think but maybe the vibe was different in the room. 🤷‍♀️

Normaling

Great episode. I wonder if DiCaprio was inspired by Bale’s “performance of a performance” when doing THAT scene Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?

Poetical Gore

OMG she wants her lesbians in movies to be Mary Sues...yawn....yes, everyone can be a villain but you....

Trevor Tillman

Good interview, Bret. Although it’s hard not to find Guinevere’s smugness a little insufferable.

Seneca Garcia

Been cheating on BEE podcast with Red Scare - I’m for once about two episodes behind ; (

Thomas Matich

Like most that dismiss his podcast, she has probably never listened to a single episode of Rogan.

Sash

guinevere is pretty hot in american psycho

Thomas Edwards
>>110531998

Make it a love triangle with the Perfume Nationalist. Very good. Introduced to it by BEE podcast.

Seneca Garcia
>>110531998

I will say Guinevere Turner is classic BEE at its very finest -- I love her in American Psycho, though I always thought she was playing some Alison Poole adaptation cameo from Jay McInerny’s Story of My Life this entire time and I don’t know why. Anyways she’s awesome. What a great podcast.

Tracy Stapleton-Lutkins

The episodes when Brett is talking to another writer are the best. He sounds so happy and interested when people talk about books they love. I wish this happened more often. Really good episode.

Matteo Persivale

Her comments on Tar tell you everything you need to know

Erick
>>110575939

Cute her brother is a little bitch and has to virtue signal by saying he takes(Joe Rogan Podcast) with a Yuge grain of salt but they probably listen to the corporate media like baby birds being force fed poison lol

Erick
>>110575939

Reminds me to say, I would pay $50 per audio book for Bret to narrate American Psycho and his other books . Vanderbeek is unlistenable for the books he's narrated

Erick
>>110507803

People living in a bubble enjoying the smell of their own farts lol