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S7E35: Hotel Oregon with Max Lawton (Patreon)

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2023-10-17 02:35:42
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Writer/Translator Max Lawton and Bret Easton Ellis discuss foreign fiction as a sanctuary for experimentation, sparking fierce debate in the Turkish tabloids and drowning stage fright in noise as they continue their conversation from last week. Part 2 of 2.

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Thomas Edwards

The Turkish novel hijinks fascinating. Related: 'Once Upon a Time in Anatolia' is a really good movie.

Seneca Garcia

This kid’s take on Nolan is brilliant - also probably the best Eagles answer

richard owain roberts

am going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.

Tanya Zeif

Bret please bring Joshua cohen on the pod!!!

Justin

Really enjoyed this guest and chat.

Paul Richardson

Speaking as someone who has listened to the BEE podcast since the very beginning, Bret casually saying he never goes to the cinema saddens me.

Patrick

Great ep and guest for both segments. 👏

Lara
>>120099544

i’ve been meaning to comment the same thing for ages!! ik the pod does’t really “do requests”, but Cohen is one of like three contemporary writers with an ability to articulate themselves intelligently - also the only relevant pulitzer winner in years lol

Alex Waller
>>120122750

Been listening since 2016 and still can’t figure out Bret’s relationship with movies. He’s extremely critical and seems to enjoy maybe 5% of what he views. Was weird to hear him start fretting about Flower Moon when literally all he does is complain that they don’t make movies like that anymore

Alex Waller

We need some guests who actually like movies . Every time it’s the same pretentious person from some upper crust school who only wants to talk foreign films or some bloated Aster movie. Since these guys don’t actually like or watch movies they have no clue if any of their criticisms are actually true

Neil G.
>>120122750

He's a middle aged man...it's just a feeling that he has. He doesn't actually formally KNOW anything about movies cause no one really does...it's a pop cultural instinctual observation...

Dave
>>120058607

I was thinking the same ie Nolan’s Marvellesque dialogue. James Cameron is similar in this way.

Alex Waller
>>120188827

Nah, Oppenheimer was a very good movie and I don’t really see what its dialogue has in common with marvel. Bret and Lawton’s dislike of Oppenheimer is because they are snobby and Oppenheimer was both a legit film and successful with the public. Since the public embraced a serious movie these guys feel that they have to trash it and act like they see things about it that nobody else can. But they don’t, everyone can see that the movie is not perfect. None of the ‘flaws’ mean that it’s not a good movie

N.M. Janice.
>>120188827

Nah, I didn’t like Oppenheimer either. I think the criticisms that Bret levels at the film are valid. I don’t like most Nolan, honestly. Both Bret and the guest talked about their love for OUATIHW, and Bret gave a positive review to Barbie, so I don’t think it’s snobbery.

jena g

don’t let them talk anyone out of seeing the devil probably/ bresson. it’s a good one.

David Morgan-Brown

I had a bit of a listen to White Nothing. Not bad, good mix of distortion, yelling, and synth -- reminds me of Prurient during his synthier days

Normaling

Never thought I’d hear any BEE guest bring up Tomb Mold. This guy is one of the best of this season. Greatest Eagles response yet.

Peel Slowly
>>120122750

One of the main symptoms of depression is a loss of interest in things we used to love. We have experienced a film renaissance this year and the fact that Bret continues to bemoan the state of film says more about him and his state of mind than anything else.

Aurélien Ch

Amazing podcast, I wish we'd have more on translation and those mysterious untranslated books!