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S7E36: Survival Tactics with Kat Timpf (Patreon)

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Comedian/Author Kat Timpf and Bret Easton Ellis discuss the perils of paying attention, humor as a reliable healer and whipping a whole lot of science fiction fans into a fierce online frenzy.

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Jerome Busca

Loved the episode. Kat was an amazing guest. We should have more of her.

Oleg

ultimate boomer rant. why every one of these truth tellers is such a pathetic bore and always so upset that they cannot say racist slurs in public? talk about narcissism.

Christy A

So pumped when he asked the eagles question

Alec K. Redfearn
>>120514803

I believe Oleg was referring to the discussion as a 'boomer rant' rather than claiming that the participants were boomers. Not sure how I feel about the 'boomer' part but definitely agree with 'bore' part. I tuned out after about 20 minutes. Whiny so-called "libertarians" are always a snoozefest. Though, I do agree that nothing should be off-limits in comedy.

N.M. Janice.
>>120514803

That's fair. I guess I'm just tired of the "boomer" as an insult thing. It's just as cringey as any other broad generational putdown. It's a lazy stereotype that doesn't' really mean anything. I agree that the right has serious issues with censorship and trying to stifle expression. They always have, and they should continue to be taken to task about it. I think the difference is that the left used to always be about free speech and defending expression as a society virtue. While all leftists deplore the right for what they are doing, they are oddly silent or even applaud their own issues with free speech.

Oleg
>>120514803

N.M. you do not need to be a boomer to rant and whine like one. It is not a complicated concept, right? What you took from it? The left ruining free speech with their vaccines, words are not violence (tell that to the parents of murdered Palestinian child from Chicago), you have a right to insult others to feel better?

Seneca Garcia

Werner Herzog never seen Star Wars also btw

Alex Waller
>>120514803

I mean to be fair Bret could be classified as a boomer, he's born right on that cusp

Peel Slowly

Turned off 5 minutes into monologue. Big loser energy.

richard owain roberts

am going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.

Eric M. Rhein

She’s fantastic. Thanks for this interview.

Knokkel knokkel

We all need to stand with Palestine 🇵🇸 and push the Zionist regime into the sea! Fucking child killers.

Jon A.

If Bret doesn’t like KotFM he does need to give up on movies

Ashley

Really loved this conversation, wish it had gone on longer

Erick

I love Kat 😍!!

Harold B
>>120514803

Trivializing someone else’s point of view because it hurts your feelings? Talk about narcissism.

Justin

I feel like one of those annoying people discussed in this episode, but sorry for your loss, Bret.

Harold B
>>120591243

Nah you’re turned it off five minutes in because you’re soft and can’t handle hearing opinions that harm your fragile sense of self.

Erick
>>120622683

Cute. Yes educate yourselves people. That slogan from the river to the sea is genocidal hamas's charter literally says to kill all Jews in existence yet the Jews are the genocidal ones they have all the technology and power to wipe out west bank and the Gaza strip but they don't. Hamas has plenty of money for rockets but nothing to build up the infrastructure of the Gaza strip. They call the Jews colonizers they've been there for the same amount of time as the Arabs they're not colonizers they just are from there. Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. They will claim moral equivalence like oh we killed 1,500 Jews but but all this and that it's bullshit Israel would happily loved go to peace. And the hilarious thing is Arab Nations Israel Jordan long list have never taken in any Palestinian refugees .

Peel Slowly
>>120591243

Paradoxically, I think Bret’s the real snowflake who can’t cope or make sense of the changing world around him. Sounds like that might apply to you too.

FlyingWaffle

Oh, she's the chick who was on Bill Maher and told about her horrible colon medical issue (having to wear a shit bag for weeks, she's fine now). I recognized her when she mentioned the bit about finding StarWars lame, haha.

Alec K. Redfearn

As a free speech absolutist (and a dirtbag liberal) myself, I thought Bret and the Fox lady made some interesting points. The stuff about Chris Rock, people being railroaded without any context etc were compelling, articulate and well laid out arguments. But the overall problem for me is that the arguments are impossible to take seriously due to the obvious right wing bias. The cancel culture and free speech criticisms were only reserved for the left; no mention of wack-job politicians on the right who have been banning books, banning drag shows and ousting political opponents for exercising their free speech. Are you a free speech absolutist or not? Why no criticism for the other side of the aisle? It seems like an odd omission.

Alec K. Redfearn
>>120640204

Also, sorry to hear Bret's sister. I've lost a lot of people I've loved in the past few years (many to suicide) and it always leaves a void that can't be filled.

Erick

Please more of her !

Neil G.
>>120640204

Because that is not affecting the general society and culture as much. The problem is that they are free speech absolutists and they are okay with bad ideas as well...it has allowed the pseudo intellectual postmodernist far left to have any kind of voice even though they have no basis in logic or reality, let alone rationality...the right wing stuff is a response to that...the political dynamic over the last FIFTY years which no one seems to acknowledge...and the other thing is: the left is SUPPOSED to be smart, since, ultimately, the truth has a liberal bias. And the fact that it has fallen SO flat in the last 50 years, yet most people bash the right because it is the easier thing to do (and it's only SLIGHTLY harder to bash the far left/recognize it's horribleness 😂😂) just showcases how idiotic society/culture has gotten in the last 50 years...which Bret has gleefully satirized in his novels

Happyhead

Bring back the transgressive fiction translator kid, please.

Tim Seibel

Hey Bret, there are many great non partisan newspapers out there: FT, Economist, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung etc. Of course is the media biased when you only read the NYT , LA Times or watch Fox News. But that’s you’re choice, so please stop the whining.

Rowan Oliver

Love this chat with Lisa barlow

George Quartz

Off topic here as I am playing catch-up with the podcast, but I just watched the delightfully competent No Hard Feelings, starring Jennifer Lawrence. Matthew Broderick costars, and it struck me while watching that he would be perfect casting to play the character Bret Easton Ellis if Lunar Park should ever be filmed. By the way, I’m a big Lemonheads fan and happy to see Mr. Dando weighing in here.

FlyingWaffle
>>120640204

Traditionally with free speech (i.e. when I was a kid), any fringe wacko stuff used to be really limited in its spread, by definition, but what's new is how social media tends to amplify all the dumb extreme shit, because tend to click on dumb extreme shit (either because they get triggered by it or find it entertaining) ... it's not the fault of free speech, it's the fault of social media and their algorithms.

Chris Baccus

Enjoyed the conversation. As a former Hillsdale College grad and someone who also served as an Opinion Editor on the college paper back in 1993, I found it extra interesting. Funny thing is when I was there the school was also religious right-wing. I had a column called From the Left; even though, I was a moderate. Never got kicked off the paper though I did quit when the Dean of Women (yes, that exists) started to censor content.

Jim Weaver

Kat was refreshing in her honesty and humor. And based on the critical comments included here, a welcome addition to the BEE library. Great guest!

George Quartz
>>120664367

Great news and excellent potential BEE guest(Glamorama namecheck being a perfect segue).

OSOS

Good lord… what is this comedy that can’t be made anymore? Chapelle has sold out shows, South Park is loved by both “sides” — if you’re a comedian moaning that you can’t tell the jokes you want it’s probably just that you’re not funny. As much as Brett claims he is unbiased clearly he is only consuming content on the right, he falls for every trap in the culture wars that he claims he avoids.

BrienPiechos

The very future of the country did hinge on that election. Biden has let in more foreigners than total American births already. Did you really think the immigration debate was just Morality vs. Racism? The USA is finished.

BrienPiechos
>>120709354

That guy was elected for one purpose and one purpose only. Evangelicals are to Israel what 300lb 18 year old boys are to Onlyfans. That’s surface level stuff. So your depth here is pretty shallow. And it’s not the GOP making it legal to ask who you fuck on a job or college application, Guy Who Isn’t Paying Attention.

Dodge Zelko

If Star Wars fans were a race I would've devolved into Bull Connor by now.

PETER GREER

….she was fun for sure.

David Willis
>>120591243

Or you. What a ridiculously hypocritical thing to say. Take a look in the mirror.

David Willis

Awesome episode and a fantastic guest. One of the best for a while.

sasha
>>120714152

Fwiw chapelle is selling out shows to people eager to support his “tell it like it is” schtick IE acting like your career was jeopardized when it never really was, and South Park is pretty ardently bashed by any older fans whose politics didn’t mellow out with age alongside Parker and Stone basically just being lefty centrists now. It seems like Bret is mostly seeking out right-leaning content just because of how sheerly (and vapidly) lefty LA is, but that’s also…. just LA, and he seems unable to accept the fact that the place where he grew up and then resettled later as an adult is what it now is culturally. I’m sure if he were dropped in a conservative area he’d shift gears real quick because the only thing that exists to him is whatever people he could see at dinner once a week are mouthing off

BrienPiechos
>>120591243

Why would Bret desire to change with the world around him? By every metric things are worse. Why embrace that? Why make excuses for bad art, music that doesn't have enough tempo changes, harmonies and rhythm to even qualify as music just to stay involved in the conversation? He's low energy because that's the amount of energy being put out around him. I walk into a gym and some mumbling trash like Lil Peep pr ASAP Rocky is on and my energy levels sink. And that extends to pop, television, movies, fiction, in fact the only thing I ever get excited about anymore is those guys on Oak Island whose dedication is inspiring.

BrienPiechos
>>120640204

Removing pornographic materials from publicly funded schools and libraries is not "banning a book." Nor is it censorship. They are still printed and available on the open market. Parents taking control over what sexual content their YOUNG KIDS are subjected to should be the fundamental right everyone agrees upon. It's only sick, twisted freak pedos who insist on having access to other people's children and discussing sexuality with them. No one is fooled by your attempts to shift the dialog to "free speech" when the issue here is child molesters using public institutions to pursue their disgusting aims.

BrienPiechos
>>120714152

That's a pretty shallow analysis. Bret has been quite clear about his criticism stemming from how little the most vocal people know about the subjects they ardently support. They watch a single news outlet and trumpet the talking points back at him, or as a group eagerly await any dissenting voice so they can respond with a chorus of Rachel Maddow quotes. And when faced with data and "science" that contradicts their position, such as vaccine injury data rolling out and being completely buried by these news sources, they pivot to "What about Putin!" It's not necessarily what they believe, it's HOW they believe, and the fact that none of their positions are arrived at as the result of consideration and comparison. Just parroted, programmed, like Bateman was by commercials, advertisements, and product placement.

BrienPiechos
>>120719165

Nothing you post ever makes any sense. Are you one of those people who mix pills and booze?

Liska

Boring interview...not a fan of Fox News Fan Bret.

David Eugene

Great episode! The best quote: “If you pick a lens through which to view the world, you don’t have to think anymore.”

George Quartz
>>120664367

There you have it - ‘Take it Easy’. Paging Adam! Perhaps a platinum member can elevate this.

Nick Not Nolte

Bret Easton “I Hate to Talk About It But Here I Am Talking About It” Ellis 🤣

Alexander Quattlander

She's pretty good damn. But suffers a bit from the vocal frye syndrome.

OSOS
>>120714152

Good response, agree with your insight especially the last part. However I still think there is a lot of edgy comedy out there, I again just think that edgy “conservative” comics just aren’t funny, they tell the ssme joke over and over again. Yet many edgy “liberal” comics still exist. Shane Gillis’s recent Netflix special is hilarious and edgy, and well received despite making fun of women, liberals, conservatives, etc. I just think too many of these conversations exist only in this realm of culture wars, which only exists in spaces like twitter, etc. The majority of ppl will laugh at an edgy joke

GC

Going from the smartest person ever to be on the podcast to this gal was quite the mood swing! I broadly agree that comedy should be free but the rest of the convo was pretty shallow, hence why she's only getting one episode. My fave comedian remains Louis CK who can be v. 'offensive' but also enlightening and poignant and goofy. Other people like Gervais are just needlessly cruel cos they can't come up with anything else. And sorry to hear about Bret's loss.

David

Twitter is irrelevant; Things people say about us on Twitter

Matteo Persivale

BEE should go full MAGA: with the antivaxxer, anti BLM, anti metoo stuff he’s basically already there already. He simply needs to say that Trump won in 2020 and mass shootings are staged by CNN with crisis actors and George Floyd died of an overdose — he’ll be booked relentlessly on Fox and OANN and Breitbart — a younger Hannity, a more articulate Carlson. He’ll get a show on X, reposted by Musk. I mean it. MAGA sure needs a famous writer, as of today they only have Dinesh D’Souza.

Ben

Good episode!

Neil G.
>>120875553

Yeah, maybe you should sit in a certain chair with a certain electric shock for existing, let alone speaking...you are a parody of the kind of far left shit that justifies the far right, and actually thinks that you are more enlightened when you literally frame what he is saying as far right propaganda because you don't understand basic logic and rationality...and, interestingly enough, you justify everything the far right says and does because they do it for power; you do your PSEUDO intellectual thing cause you think you're right, and that is psychopathic hypocritical retardation of the highest order, which even makes Hitler (forget Trump) look good (and necessary)...Bret's only problem is he gives you the right to speak...you don't have it...and for speaking, even for existing, the place you belong is in a certain chair with a certain electric shock

Neil G.
>>120875553

and the fact that you subscribed to his podcast 😂😂😂😂...forget it, you already exposed your hypocrisy and I, very easily, called it out, and like I say to every retarded subhuman parasite like yourself: it's the least of your problems, the basic little hypocrisy here, unlike the bigger, more retarded one you revealed in your comment

john m
>>120709354

Awesome take!! Right up there with all your terrible questions!!

Artemis Fedorchuk

I think Bret could really benefit from playing some Animal Crossing or Stardew Valley. Or going for a walk in a park, maybe petting a dog… perhaps purchasing a toy from his childhood on eBay to remember what it was to have light in his heart. Jesus fuck.

Harold B
>>120849225

The fact that you’re defending a sex offender over a comedian who makes jokes you find too mean tells us all we need to know about you.

Harold B
>>120789187

Trying to figure out if your characterization comes from laziness or stupidity.

Artemis Fedorchuk
>>120640204

Statistically speaking, child predators are more likely to be heterosexual conservative men than they are any other demographic, just saying. I mean, I went to Catholic school as a kid, and was blatantly told that gay sex was a sin, and that if you think you’re gay you might not be since same sex crushes among children are common, and that we should start pro life clubs at our school (we were twelve). This shit is not an isolated issue. I can assure you that most children who experience trauma in their childhoods in relation to sexual abuse do not credit their trauma to reading Call Me By Your Name while in middle school.

Artemis Fedorchuk
>>120514803

People love to go on about how words are not violence and then ignore that the last words heard by victims of hate crimes are typically slurs

J Hay
>>121258004

I’m in LA (born here, as well), and somewhere within 2 miles of Bret’s location, apparently. I want to get out of here, preferably to another country. Where are you, by the way?

Artemis Fedorchuk
>>121258004

I mean, I’m Canadian, and I was born and raised in Toronto. Shit’s not perfect, but at the very least Toronto is a walkable city.

reed
>>121258004

He was laughing and having a good time this entire episode what are you talking about?

Stephen
>>120849225

Louis CK isn't a sex offender, he asked permission before commencing to jerk off.

Stephen
>>120875553

Are you suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome? We'll get ready buddy.

Ray Bowers

Joan Rivers told us Obama was gay. And then they killed her.