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Every Nickelodeon Kid's Choice Awards "Best Animated Movie" - Reviewed and Ranked! [PART 2] (Patreon)

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2022-07-01 17:57:35
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2022-12-09 19:17:19
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This is the second half of a 3.5 hour-long audio rant about 90+ movies that I watched for an upcoming video project.

Listen to the first hour and a half of audio reviews and see the full explanation for this project here! https://www.patreon.com/posts/68354533 

TIMESTAMPS (ORGANIZED BY YEAR):

2016 - 0:002017 - 9:482018 - 21:292019 - 27:532020 - 46:532021 - 1:08:012022 - 1:25:40Extras - 1:54:37

Check out the full list of movies and their ratings here (unless you want to guess which movie the kids and I liked best while listening, it can be more fun to be surprised! Some of the kids' picks are... baffling, to say the least.)

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Skull Thunder

I have to say, I agree with almost all of your commentary. I find your insights interesting and valuable due to your experience both just in the industry but also in terms of media literacy, and your ability to pick and choose your fights. (I.e., leaving some stuff aside since it's a dumb kid's movie but criticizing essential plot issues-you give things the benefit of the doubt up to a point). Here's the problem: I find myself constantly distracted by how much I start dying with laughter each time you rant about animated poop jokes. I agree with you 100%; it's never funny, and gross at best. (AT BEST, mind you). It's just...I can't listen to you get pissed over a rabbit shitting fully on screen in Secret Life of Pets without literally busting up laughing. So at the very least, know these are quite valuable insights into creativity (especially all your mentions of healthy relationships), yet they're also fucking hysterical to some bozo like me who's humor is completely broken.

Faith Kistler

I was surprised to hear the sudden passionate rant on generational trauma in children's media and wound up in tears at how accurate and poignant your thoughts were. I just came to hear how dumb the children were and ended up feeling more seen and justified in my thoughts about family than ever in my life. Thank you

Miranda Tagliamonte

I think Nickelodeon’s official claim is that Kamp Koral is set in an alternate universe, but like, does that make the whole third movie non-canon? I say that like SpongeBob has ever had canon. I watched a few newer episodes, and one of them established that Mr. Krabs had been dating Mrs. Puff for SIXTEEN YEARS (since Krusty Love), which implies that the show is running in real time and every character is nonsensically long-lived. And then like three episodes later, Mrs. Puff starts flirting with a Steve Buscemi fish. They do not care about the canon (and they probably never did).

Blue Glasses

The reason Encanto got radio play is because the pop charts earlier this year were so fucking barren that the music industry was that desperate to get something popular on the stations, if you were curious. (The music industry, aka the only thing that could possibly rival Disney in terms of pure evil)

BedknobsandBethanies

I'm pretty sure they gave the Grinch a sad, christmas related backstory that explains why he hates christmas unnecessarily in the fever dream that is the live action Grinch movie with Jim Carrey and future frontwoman of The Pretty Reckless Taylor Momsen. (Also, your mic volume is fluctuating throughout this whole part.) I also legitimately think that biblical remake of the first movie by that Canadian Evangelical church where Simba dies for our sins is better than that stupid awful live action Lion King monstrosity.

Icecreamvi

i feel like your encanto reasoning for the candle is a bit culturally insensitive, coming as someone whos hispanic family had to go through a situation like that, my thoughts are too jumbled right now to fully articulate exactly why but the candle and the family's gift isnt given for "no reason" its given specifically because of the hardship the community faced from the oppressive government takeover of their previous town

JelloApocalypse

I apologize for that. I know a bit of history relating to the South American wars of independence but I definitely don't know any specifics regarding Columbian mythology stemming from that time period. When I say "The Madrigals were given the candle for no reason" I'm just confused why it was given to the Madrigals *specifically*. Why not any of the other refugee families that fled with Abuela and her husband? Surely the other fleeing refugees also suffered losses during their flight, but only Abuela was given a candle and all the other refugees had to rely on her. Was it an act of magical intervention recognizing her husband's sacrifice? Is Casita an extension of her husband's spirit, protecting the family long after his death? What qualifies this woman and this family specifically to be granted magical powers, and why should I be rooting for them? For me, I felt it was a little unclear. I think Encanto as a whole has a lot of good ideas and wants to explore a lot of interesting topics and themes, but it just doesn't have enough time to go into any of them, especially with the huge cast it tries to introduce. I wish that instead of a movie they'd made it into a 6-12 episode mini-series for Disney+ focusing on the same themes and mythology with a lot more time to flesh out the characters. Moana's exploration about Polynesian culture is a subject I know even less about, but I feel like they did a much better job going "Here is Maui. Here is his role in this culture. Here is the things he has done and the things he can do. Here are the rules of this setting." I'm sure that the candle in Encanto has cultural precedence that I don't know about, but if that's the case then it's the *movie's* job to introduce me to the basic rules of this culture's mythology, and with Encanto I just don't think the filmmakers did a very good job of that.

Kruh-Daze

Nice to hear I wasn’t the only one who hated the koala in Sing. I hated the mouse too but at least he was supposed to be seen as a jerk.

Emereldmaster333

As someone who has completely cut off their psychopathic comically evil racist bigoted abusive dad and his entire fucked up family yea you're fucking right. Fuck generational trauma if they're assholes leave em, I haven't spoken to any of them since I was 18 and I am never gonna!!

H.B

Man, you can tell how emotionally exhausted Jello gets by the time he gets through The Encanto segment. Great job, dude!

Fan Trades

I can't be completely certain, but I think the reason that there are so many movies about men who hate their families is because they are written by men who hate their families. Why are there so many men who hate their families? I'm glad that there have been so many more movies recently that depict generational trauma, since it can help younger viewers who didn't have the context (like myself) identify toxic relationships in their own lives. However, the fact that they all end with the moral that 'FAMILY IS ALL THAT MATTERS' can be actively harmful. It normalizes this behavior and encourages people in these situations to continue putting up with poor treatment from family members purely on the notion that they are 'FAMILY'. But these movies never offer realistic solutions for these people because, at the end of the day, they are marketed as 'FAMILY' movies, and are intended to be watched by families. Making a FAMILY movie where the message isn't pro-family is a gamble for the large corporations that produce them. So they don't, and continue to give these films sham endings regardless of the consequences it has on the impact it has on the final product and the viewers that consume it, because that's what prints them money.

Xaghi, Princess of Power

I did not mind the length of these, honestly I could listen to you talk about media for hours

Juliaaaaaaaa

Ok so like, I COMPLETELY agree with the fact that family is not everything, and that notion being present in a lot of western media is very harmful, and I absolutely believe in cutting off toxic people, not even just relatives, and it would be cool to see that in more media aimed at kids. I’m definitely not a family person, the only blood relative I have any close relationship to is my mom (kinda my cousins too but we see each other like once in a blue moon). But with Encanto, I, and a lot of other people, didn’t read it that way. Alma (the grandma) is the antagonist, but not a villain. I saw a lot of other people say that the grandma was “forgiven too quickly” (i even saw some people say the dad from MVTM was toxic which is kinda a stretch imo) but the “Dos Oruguitas” scene shows She is the one who promises to fix things and she’s the one who approaches Mirabel and apologizes, she even denies Mirabel apologizing because it wasn’t her fault, and while she does explain her trauma she doesn’t use it as an excuse. Like I said, I agree with media teaching kids to cut ties with toxic people, but just because that wasn’t what Encanto was going for doesn’t mean it’s necessarily saying “it’s ok the abusive parent said they were sorry and it’s all ok now🙂”. If anything that’s a very simplified version of how it went The theme of generational trauma in this film and Turning Red/in ethnic families is also kinda more complex but other people have explained it better than I personally could. And I never thought the rest of the family were assholes to Mirabel either, there’s even a scene where the dad stands up for her and everyone else is perfectly amicable to her, like the only one who was antagonistic towards her was Isabela but besides the the whole golden child stress thing that’s kinda just how sisters are lol. And I feel like the way you described how Turning Red should’ve ended, wouldn’t really have worked? Like at the climax the mother’s panda coming out/wrecking the concert, which was brought on by Mei disobeying her and her relatives chastising her for it, I feel like kinda showed the grandmother what kind of influence her parenting had in her kid.The mom was also super regretful of scarring her mother with her panda as a teenager so that also ties into her being terrified of her

JelloApocalypse

Definitely some good points in here, but I'm going to reiterate some things I've said elsewhere: A) Encanto's biggest crime is that it should've been a TV show made for Disney+ and it needed at least three times the runtime it was given as a film. There's just too many characters and too many themes left 90% unexplored because it's a movie. That being said: B) With the exception of her parents and Antonio, the Madrigals are absolutely awful to Mirabel. It's in the little ways they treat her. They never give her the time of day, never listen to her, never answer any of her (very basic) questions. What's more, in a family with a MAGIC SHAPESHIFTING HOUSE and siblings who can literally lift entire buildings, they never gave Mirabel her own room? She sleeps in the small, dimly lit nursery with her little cousin. Even if Casita didn't bestow a gift on her, don't you think the Madrigals could've taken literally like a week of their time and built her an adjoining room somewhere in the house? Or somewhere else on the grounds? They do that sort of thing for the townsfolk constantly. There's also that scene where they all take a family photo together to commemorate the new gift their youngest family member got... and they *don't have Mirabel in it*. She's standing off to the side like she wasn't invited. What the fuck? C) In regards to Turning Red (a movie I like MUCH more than Encanto), my issue lies mostly in characterization. If you show me a character (in these movies it's always the Grandma) who has spent the last several decades of her life enforcing a very strict regimen on her family, then I think that having her do a complete 180 after being confronted once is, frankly, inconsistent characterization. If I'm allowed to get mad at a dinky movie like "Land Before Time 25: It's Raining Dinosaurs" for having a character suddenly change the way they act to fit the narrative, then I don't see why I should give a pass to a well-made movie like Turning Red for showing me the effects of 40 years of a person's worldview and actions and then having them completely change how they treat other people at the end for the sake of wrapping things up. It works okay in something like a ten-page fairy tale where your suspension of disbelief is already expecting a bit of unreality in how the characters act. I believe that the Grinch's heart can grow 3 sizes and he can flip on his worldview because the Grinch's story is silly and lighthearted. It exists in a space of goofy, Christmas-y unreality, so it's fine. When stories start trying to tackle very serious issues like Generational Trauma, I do not feel that way. ESPECIALLY when a story like Turning Red depicts it so accurately for 85% of the movie and then decides people need to turn on a dime so everything is wrapped up nicely. I would still give Turning Red a 9/10, it's almost perfect, but after you show me that Ming Lee is terrified of her mom to the point of running and hiding when she calls her on the phone... and THEN showing me that the grandmother is willing to fly cross-country without permission to perform a ritual on her daughter? That's nuts. Those are moments of characterization that SAY something about a person, and frankly I think it's taking the easy way out to throw that out the window and wrap things up nicely at the end as though the rest of the movie didn't show me how unlikely that would be. The big moment like that in Encanto for me is Bruno, who has been *living in the walls for like a decade subsisting on scraps* and is just absolutely broken. This guy is so codependent on the idea of his family that he's been living in squalor trying to help them and pretending to be a part of the family dinners all so he can help Mirabel. He is visible fucked up by this experience. And then at the end (because they don't have time to do anything else) Abuela just hugs him like "Oh hey man how's it going" and they barely exchange any more dialogue. I know family is important in Columbian culture I get that I'm not a part of the culture, but I don't think you should need to be a part of a culture to point at something awful and go "Yo, hey guys, the way they're treating him SUCKS."

JelloApocalypse

Oh, and for what it's worth, after the initial wave of good-natured "Yay, Latino representation in mainstream media!" posts that came out after this movie's release I remember seeing a ton of Latino people saying things like "I really liked Encanto, but let's be honest, Abuela would've smacked Mirabel with a sandal" and "Encanto is magical realism, in that some things are realistic, like the family issues, and somethings are magical, like an Abuela ever apologizing for anything" So clearly I am not the only one who reads it this way, lol.

Juliaaaaaaaa

With how the family treats Mirabel (namely the photo scene), the way I see it, due to how much Alma cares about the family’s image everyone is so hyper focused on their gifts and their ability to “be of service”, which we see has taken a pretty big emotional toil on most of them, Mirabel, who’s gift less and doesn’t have to worry about helping the village/being useful/looking good for the family (like Luisa having to do literally all the heavy lifting for the village/Isabela having to marry a man she doesn’t love and everyone making sure that goes smoothly) kinda gets lost in the shuffle/gets ignored, especially since in that moment they were celebrating Antonio’s new gift. They’re all just kinda Stepford smilers and their actions are kinda more innocently insensitive, like not in a “you’re not magical and we’re better than you” more like “we have so much shit going on between ourselves so just leave everything to us cause you wouldn’t understand” (The room situation tho I actually genuinely don’t know why they couldn’t have built her a room. Maybe cause ✨magic reasons✨ or something idk.) Yea I actually remember people saying the most unrealistic thing about Encanto/Turning Red was that the parent/matriarch apologized lol. (Part of me even agrees based on personal experience) But then again I also saw POC happy they had films with representation/happy endings, so idk I guess it’s ✨subjective✨ I do wish Bruno reuniting with the family was touched on more too, I’ll agree on that. But Who knows with how popular it is maybe we will get a TV series/sequel fleshing everyone out more, Tangled and Big Hero Six did.

Alex Peter Rose

You should score the kids based on HOW wrong they were. Like give em 5 points if they got it right, 4 if it was 2nd best, 0 if they completely fucked up etc. (Jello saying he'll try to wrap this up soon with like 90 minutes to go is my favorite running gag on this patreon)

Noah Goodman

Well, this got me to up my subscription to $5 to hear the rest. Well done.

Shovlin

Do you really like pepper enough to keep at your desk full time? Or was it just something you thought would be good to stim with?

Bo Hello

I remember watching Secret Life of Pets with you and one of the first scenes was the main dog finding his green ball. And I was really expecting there to be a joke like "I love my ball! Its round, it's bouncy, it's red, probably!" and then they couldn't even offer a joke of that quality and it was like a harbinger of what the rest of the movie was gonna be

Candaru

Gotta say, I was really interested to hear your longer thoughts on Soul since it's one of my favorite animated movies, but you do a good job breaking down what bothered you about it. I'd absolutely be interested in watching the alternate movie you proposed (about Joe realizing his passion for teaching and mentoring young souls).

Candaru

HUGE agree with the generational trauma thing as well. Cannot WAIT for Prison of Plastic to come out.

SonicPsycho

Listening to you slowly lose your mind and composure is definitely worth the $5

Gretchen Knotts

Question where do you set up casting calls?

Neosaneo

i think movies where the shit parental figure wakes up a better person is a wish fulfilment story for the writers. cause uh its not gonna happen irl ever!