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Extra Credit 034 - After Hours (Patreon)

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2025-04-24 17:46:23
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2025-04-24 17:47:10
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We're discussing strange story cinema with Scorsese's Aickman-esque After Hours!

Next up: a classic episode and MONSTER MAY!

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Jason Thompson

Hey, sorry for the spammy messages in various channels, but do you still do sponsorships or advertising on the show? 🙏 would love to know for the month of July specifically. Thanks!!

Dyche Mullins

Haven't listened to the episode yet, but I am SOOPER glad that you all are discussing After Hours. It is one of the all time favorite movies from my youth. I loved the nightmare/dream logic and landscape, as well as the fact that your life could depend on the fate of a 20-dollar bill [for the younger crowd: this was a type of money used back in olden times]. And the idea that you could enter an alien world simply by visiting a different neighborhood in your city. This idea reminds me of China Mieville's novel The City and The City: a strange story about two cities in two different countries that happen to occupy the same physical space. I don't know whether it would be appropriate for this venue, but I recommend that you both check it out. Anyway, thank you in advance for a trip down memory lane!

Erik Gordon

Just a pleasure listening to this. I remember the video box art, but nothing else. From your description it seems like everything I love. Aikman, Lynch, Burroughs. Gonna roll the bones on this one for sure. It pleases me that at 45 I can still find new "old" content here.

Newk

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode

Steve

I saw this on video, maybe four years after it came out and remember enjoying it. It was quite a while before I ever read Aickman. It does have that dream logic to it, but it doesn't strike me quite as dark or creepy as Aickman. I think part of that is because Griffin Dunne is clearly a comic actor. I remember Fiorentino from The Last Seduction in which she was amazing.

Eric - Speaker in Digressions

The sped-up taxi ride to Nightmare-land makes me think of the super-fast carriage to Orlok's castle in Murnau's Nosferatu--a famous-enough transition that I wonder if it's what Scorsese had in mind. Another horror parallel, much less likely to be intentional, is the way different sculptures in "The Call of Cthulhu" mark transitions to acts of the story. --- And ah, man, "Gotcha"! That's a favorite of my youth that I haven't thought about in a long time. Thanks for the reminder!

Jim Cannon

Hold on a tick, Griffin Dunne is NOT in Desperately Seeking Susan? Have I been conflating these two movies in my head for nearly four decades?

Derek Scott

Major Mandela Effect vibes from this episode as well as the comments!

Our old pal Brendan Gardiner

I think it was Mrs. Scorsese’s desire to have small parts in movies that made her son decide to be a director.

Audrey Peterson

After Hours very much painted an incredibly accurate picture of the other worldliness that was Downtown at that time. I was an art student st Rutgers in the early 1980s going to see artists-in-residence in Soho when it was still nothing but artists’ lofts. It was spooky even during the day; streets so quiet you expected a tumbleweed to come rolling by. Downtown at night could easily find you at some random bar or semi-legal underground club or at someone’s Lower Eastside apartment—the kind with bathtubs in the kitchen—having absurd conversations and meeting people just like those in the movie. Some were offbeat and odd, some scary. Once out of there—often at dawn—and back in your regular life, you did wonder if you dreamed it.

It's a Ghost.

This movie was way more weirder and more unique and more wonderful than I ever imagined it would be. I loved it!

King Dinosaur

I'm so glad you guys covered this brilliant movie. I've been championing it for years and no one has even heard of it. Makes me feel like I'm in a Robert Aickman story.

It's a Ghost.

I noticed that in contrast to the protagonist's struggle to communicate with and to understand all the different women he encounters throughout the night, his interactions with the male characters are all very straight forward and transactional. It's totally transparent what they want. The taxi driver wants to be paid the fare; the subway ticket salesman wants $1.50; the guy working at the diner will let Paul use the restroom, but only if he buys something; and the bartender and Paul exchange keys and make an agreement regarding Paul checking on his apartment. Even the bouncer at the club made it clear what was required: a mohawk.

Ken Hardin

"I'll probably get blamed for that, too," has been in my vernacular since I first saw After Hours in 1987 or so. However, my favorite Dick Miller line will always be "They're ugly, ugly, ugly people," in Rock and Roll High School.

Richard Horsman

Way late to the party, but just a couple things: I also had the Night Shift/After Hours scramble in my head for a while! Catherine O’Hara might have been attached because of Tim Burton, but Scorsese is a gigantic SCTV fan, so he might have cast her himself.

Haylen Brenagh

The first time I visited Manhattan was in the mid-1980's with my boyfriend whose sister was working there on a short term assignment microfilming documents for a big government lawsuit. We cruised many dive bars in and around the Village in the exact same city depicted in "After Hours," right down to the sticky floors and besotted streets. After the cowboy bar, the dank gay hasbeen bar, and the corner not so friendly bar, and the cool kids bar where we couldn't get past the bouncer, we elevatored up to her efficiency apartment and slept on the floor to the sounds of passing ambulances. Your discussion of "After Hours" now reminds me of, eww, the good old days!